A quick survey of 'other' grappling styles

[Tom Yum]

Taekyon (Korea)

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Wrestling (Mongolia)

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Sambo (Russia)

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Uzumlu (Turkey)

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Shuai Jiao (China)

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Wrestling (India)

YouTube - Wrestling Guru - India

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Catch-as-Catch Can (US)

[Ghost]

omg what a load of gay!
are these your friends tom?

[Tant01]

..........cool! Thanks Tom... More Rep soon!

[Tom Yum]

The Mongolian wrestlers fought on the ground. No mats! Same with the Turks. Wrestling in a dirt pit, as the Indians demonstrated, could be good for simulating a beach type environment. Wrestling in oil? Not so sure about that one though.

Korean wrestlers used more leg takedowns, which allbeit impressive, seem hella risky.

Shuai jiao looks like judo's precursor; CCW looks like freestyle wrestling's precursor.

[jubaji]

Wrestling is universal!

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Wrestling is universal!

100% agree. You see wrestling amongst babies and animals as well. There are a couple clips floating around youtube of bears,tigers, monkeys, etc. wrestling.

[Tom Yum]

Out of all grappling styles shown, I'm most impressed by the Mongolians.

Sure, its no gi but they use there natural surrounding and no mats. They stop once the throw is scored, which obviously limits ground work and keeps it sport, but I'd imagine in their old society, going to the ground would result in spitting, bitting, picking up a rock next to you, smashing it overhead or pulling out a hidden weapon to help you finish off your enemy. Not to say that ground work is useless, but I'd wager that wrestling like this was used to keep soldiers sharp and prepaired if they were in close.

[TigerClaw]

Chinese Kung Fu has grappling as well, but some of it is very vicious and for combat survival. There are also many clawing techniques that can be used effectively on the ground. I was hoping in the future to put together a Kung Fu grappling and ground fighting book. It seems to me that there is a diiference between sport fighting and survival combat fighting of Kung Fu. Does anyone agree?

[Tom Yum]

Chinese Kung Fu has grappling as well, but some of it is very vicious and for combat survival. There are also many clawing techniques that can be used effectively on the ground. I was hoping in the future to put together a Kung Fu grappling and ground fighting book. It seems to me that there is a diiference between sport fighting and survival combat fighting of Kung Fu. Does anyone agree?

I agree.

Survival type of fighting is just that.

Still, you can't take away what sport fighting has to offer, not in terms of tactics per se, but in terms of operating in a real-time, spontaneous environment with as much power as you can handle (without dying or being permanently injured).

The gongfu grappling book sounds like a great idea.