Grappling was invented for Cowards

[Bjjexpertise@be]

i trained in judo for a while under a judo coach who helped coach the usa olympic team. he said that to be good at judo, you must be built from the ground up, thus you must train in NEWAZA FIRST.

its because training in newaza will also make you good at tachiwaza!! however tachiwaza teaches you almost nothing about newaza other than mabye some grip breaking techniques and MABYE the uchimata or single/double leg from the knees that will land you in guard, armbar or triangle instead of a solid pass and pin. many of the same judo throws can be done from the knees, and the more you train in grappling the more aware you become of the standup. that is why you see low level jiu jitsu guys, even white belts, go into judo tournaments and take out blackbelts. jiu jitsu has lots of counters to tachiwaza as well.

I agree with you for a different reason. I think if you have good newaza skills it'll give you confidence in your tachiwaza. A lot of times I see a bunch of beginners in Judo too afraid to commit to their throws because of how they'll end up on the ground. With a good newaza base I feel it'll get rid of that mental block.

[jubaji]

go to some judo tournaments and you will see it for yourself.

So, can you provide some proof or not?

[chelsea]

I may take a lot of flack here (on a grappling board), but if you think about it the whole concept of grapplin ... "closing the distance" and taking someone down to subdue them ... is the result of someone trying to figure out how best NOT to fight.

I will not argue that BJJ (submission, etc.) is effective, but it was basically invented by those who hadn't the balls to swap it out like men.

Think about Royce Gracie (when asked what his strategy in a UFC fight was): "I just don't want to get hit."

LMFAO, can you imagine a real fighter like Hagler saying this? And of course when Roycie-poo tkes a few bonkers on the legs and noggin' he folds like a bad hand in a western saloon and quits.

I wonder what the temperature of his face was as he hobbled from the pride ring, humiliated as a cur?

For all of its "intricacy," for all of its "effectiveness," for all of the patches that may adorn you people's gis ... there is a reason WHY you take grappling over boxing ... and that is because you are not masculine enough to fight like men and trade punches, but would rather roll around and hug each other from betwixt another man's legs.

Yours truly,

Joe

uh yeah i'd want to know how to defend myself then get killed just because im to stuck up in my ego you f***ing retard just because we're taught to not fight for no reason doesent make us pussys it makes us smart

[jonbey]

I will not argue that BJJ (submission, etc.) is effective, but it was basically invented by those who hadn't the balls to swap it out like men..... you are not masculine enough to fight like men and trade punches, but would rather roll around and hug each other from betwixt another man's legs.

An interesting take on grappling. I am not a grappler, but I am also not much of a boxer. But giving the choice of exchanging a series of punches to my face that may lose me teeth and my good looks, or the chance to get in an break someones arm in half, I think I'll go for the arm.

In real life fights often go to the floor. If you end up on the floor it is good to know how to win from that position. Otherwise you will be left being pounded and grounded and taking hits like a real man!

I admit that I do not like getting hit either, and I hate those locks too .....

[WildWest.]

Check out the date on the OP....I think we're over such drivel now.....

[Tom Yum]

Check out the date on the OP....I think we're over such drivel now.....

Those were the days when brazilian jiujitsu was some kind of food, muaythai was an alcoholic beverage and the mere mention of the word crossfit made people giggle like a school girl, because they thought it had something to do with trans-genders.

[skinny_blk_dude]

I may take a lot of flack here (on a grappling board), but if you think about it the whole concept of grapplin ... "closing the distance" and taking someone down to subdue them ... is the result of someone trying to figure out how best NOT to fight.

I will not argue that BJJ (submission, etc.) is effective, but it was basically invented by those who hadn't the balls to swap it out like men.

Think about Royce Gracie (when asked what his strategy in a UFC fight was): "I just don't want to get hit."

LMFAO, can you imagine a real fighter like Hagler saying this? And of course when Roycie-poo tkes a few bonkers on the legs and noggin' he folds like a bad hand in a western saloon and quits.

I wonder what the temperature of his face was as he hobbled from the pride ring, humiliated as a cur?

For all of its "intricacy," for all of its "effectiveness," for all of the patches that may adorn you people's gis ... there is a reason WHY you take grappling over boxing ... and that is because you are not masculine enough to fight like men and trade punches, but would rather roll around and hug each other from betwixt another man's legs.

Yours truly,

Joe

[WildWest.]

Exactly mate.

[WildWest.]

Those were the days when brazilian jiujitsu was some kind of food, muaythai was an alcoholic beverage and the mere mention of the word crossfit made people giggle like a school girl, because they thought it had something to do with trans-genders.

True. Yet it doesn't feel like all that long ago........