Is there controversy with the mixed martial artist and the kung fu fighters?

[Uncle Corny]

MMA guys train unrealistically for the street.

Kung fu has eye gouges and dim mak.

yenhoi...you should rethink that idiocy.

[jubaji]

No, the techniques which attack the vital points.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh
I see.

[jubaji]

Kyusho-jutsu is the technique of attacking the vital points

Like your wallet

[shaolin-warrior]

Many Schools have borrowed or use the term Kung-Fu. I was taught from my master that if one does not contend he can cannot be held in contention. In my set of core values life and well being are precious, to maliciously set aside my values for a trophy, I would bring shame upon my masters. These kung-fu heavy hitters are what you would call posers

[jubaji]

I was taught from my master that if one does not contend he can cannot be held in contention. In my set of core values life and well being are precious, to maliciously set aside my values for a trophy, I would bring shame upon my masters.

Get a shovel and open a window.

[shaolin-warrior]

A martial artist should strive to be a vessel empty of themselves. This allows room for growth. I used to laugh at people who said things like this but ask any serious instructor and they will tell you that there style and form became better with spirituality.

[jubaji]

A martial artist should strive to be a vessel empty of themselves. .

I see you've elected to start with your head.

[shaolin-warrior]

minds are like parachutes more useful when open

[jubaji]

minds are like parachutes more useful when open

And useless when you don't have one.

[Sensei Saki]

Not many people express themselves that way.
What you said was either too complex or too simple for me.

[shaolin-warrior]

its pretty simple, toa te ching said
those who actively initiate will be defeated,
those who hold fast to anything will loose it,
therefore, the sage is never defeated because he is passive,
and never loose because he is detached.

[Kenpodog]

Kyusho-jutsu is the technique of attacking the vital points

Like your wallet

ROTFL

[shaolin-warrior]

that made me laugh

[hung gar kelmos]

alright i vote for kung-fu
ok now mma are bound by rules
us of the kung-fu are not
maybe the "experts" were acually guys who did for a semest or something that the annouser did false
(bad spelling)
for the most part my school is trandonal
but we have ground fighting so we could learn some things
anybody is defeatableit all depends on weaknesses and such
some people are great fighters like my sifu
65 years old
he can beat quite a few people can eaisly down a 3rd degree black sash no problem
he uses even less force then i would
sure if one of those guys got me on the ground it would be a bad struggle for me but i wouldnt get totally creamed

and just for wrap up
true kung-fu experts are quite old just because your a black doesnt mean your an expert it just means you have enough to start teaching a little to other people

[danfaggella]

well, in a street fight MMA fighters are bound by no rules... sure in the ring they are, so are chinese martial artists (example: wushu, which to me is just a traditional demonstration involving little precticality, HOWEVER, CMA people do have San Shou, which is very much like MMA, because it is in a ring!! so there are rules!!)

IMO: MMA includes kung fu, a mixed martial artist is not just a BJJ/Muay Thai guy, he is a man who trains in numerous martial arts, which could include kung fu, so in the broad spectrum, an MMA man has a much more grand plethera of technique and strategy, because it is limitless and including any martial art.