Why Martial Artists Can't Fight.

[crazyjoe380]

VERY TRUE..

I'LL STAND UP UNTIL I FEEL I'M GETTING BEAT.. THEN I'LL GO FOR A SHOOT.. IF IT'S ONLY ONE GUY...

THEN I WONT ANY FARTHER THEN A FULL MOUNT.. IF I CAN'T GET IT.. I'LL GET ALL THE HITS I CAN.. TRY TO HIT IS BALLS OR THROAT.. IF NOT..

RIGHT BACK UP AGAIN..

[Brokenmace]

Sorry about the long tirades. I forget myself sometimes.

Yeah, it's good to train grappling against knives. A lot of folks don't realize that most knife fatalities come from sucking wounds to the lung. A knife only has to penetrate about 1.5 inches to get to the lung. Bad juju . . .

It would be my preference to break the arm of an attacker with knife. Disarms are wicked risky.

[jmd161]

Re: Why Martial Artists Can't Fight.

Originally posted by Bri Thai
OK, we all know that some of them can, but nowhere near as many as should be able to. In another thread it was pointed out that street fighters can "take" most martial artists, and I agree.

Just being a member of some martial arts school is nowhere near enough to make you a good fighter. In fact the opposite is true. And this was especially true before the advent of MMA tournaments, where "Paper Tigers" were exposed by the score.

Here are the reasons why :-

1. People expect the local Karate/Kung Fu/Whatever class to make them invincible. They prattle up and down the dojo punching thin air, and increasingly convince themselves that it is "working". Never mind that your Aunty Gladys could easily manage alongside you..... You are studying the mystical martial arts! You can't lose.......

2. Many people do not study what happens BEFORE a fight even starts. There are many factors involving both psychological and strategic, eg fear control as well as awareness/conflict management training etc. No, they go to the class, do physical techniques only, and expect to win. The Dojo is a VERY controlled environment. The street is totally uncontrolled. Not taking account of this can get you killed.

3. Rules. Many arts are sports based, and these have rules. What other way could it be if you want to spar and compete? But those very rules make you ineffective. How many Boxers can't block kicks? And how many miss golden kicking opportunities? The same holds true for any technique outside the rules of your chosen art. Why go for a complicated submission when you could have beaten him around the chops? Because that is the way you train and, in the heat of the moment, that is what you will naturally do. But it won't work, as he will have his fingers in your eyes and his teeth in your gonads. Ouch! And cross training isn't enough, because even there the most effective techniques are not trained.

4. Reality. The streetfighter lives with reality every day. If he can't win he is no longer a street fighter, so only the strongest and the best survive. And he is nasty too. He doesn't give a shit about you or your family or anything beyond getting what he wants, from you. But all you have to do to survive the dojo is stay in it for an hour or so every few days. Good or bad you are still there.

5. Surprise and evil intent. He will do anything to you in order to win, but you nice folk will think twice before really hurting him. And who can blame you? You could get in alot of trouble by putting him on a slab. You nice folk aren't used to jail, unlike Mr Streetfighter. You will be wandering around with your head in the clouds, thinking about your lovely girlfriend or whatever. He will be waiting in the shadows, and will pounce on you before you even know what is happening..........Bang Stab Kick. The streetfighter wins again.


And there you have it. Your training will make you over confident. Much of it will be ineffective for a real fight and will actually go against you. You are almost totally unprepared, and it will be like lambs to the slaughter.

The solution? Look at the above points and make serious efforts to put them right. Change and adapt your training, or you will be the next Paper Tiger to become a fur rug.

Fond regards!

Bri Thai,

I can't disagree with one thing you said in this post.

That is the whole problem with MA's these days no one trains for combat.In ancient China/Japan your training meant life or death.If you trained half azz in your next fight you probably did'nt live to regret it.People think because this is 2002 you don't have to train that way ,but i'm sorry to say you don't you have to train harder than they did.Combat is combat you can't fight combat with some fancy kata/form you learned at a karate/kung fu school.

The only way to prepare yourself is to train as if your life depended on it.Because when the time comes it will.

That's why i'm glad i have my sifu he trains us for combat not trophys in a tournament.

jmd161

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Stand by for my new thread "Martial Artists can't fight - How to put things right"