A good first art

[ryta1203]

Originally posted by Benjamin Dover


Hmmm...do you just practice in the air?!?! Ring/sport fighters use this venue to improve timing and distancing against a resisting opponent. 90% of ring moves are employable on the street. As long as a ring fighter adapts to the street situation he will do much better than someone who practices in the air, Tai Chi boy.

Why don't you use your Tai Chi in a self defense situation?, LOL!!! I'm sure you could beat a ring fighter. It is the method of training. Do you not spar? Or do you practice in the air? Practicing in the air and working technique is good but now it has to be employed as a skill. Hence, sparring or ring fighting.

You are delusional if you think you can employ the moves you practice in the air if you have never used them against a resisting opponent. It's like practicing Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu moves by yourself and thinking that you can use them for real against a resisting opponent.

Anyway just use your Tai Chi footwork on the street, hahaha!

LOL

Sport fighting styles are extremely effective in SPORTS, that is, in the ring, where there are rules, regulations, 1v1 fighting. All fighting styles spar, dumbasses. Oh, no, Muay Thai is the ONLY fighting style that spars. LOL!!!

PS. there is this site called www.mcdojo.com where this guy is entirely pro Muay Thai and extremely anti-Wing Chun. It's really funny. Basically, there are these two fights where these superbuff, in really good shape white dudes fight these beginner wing chun, out of shape, not buff small chinese dudes. Of course the White (muay thai) guys win. Doesn't that make sense, yes. Throw me in the ring with a 145 lb Muay Thai dork, and I will make it so that his mom doesn't recognize him.

My point: It's a little biased, don't you think?

[Benjamin Dover]

As long as a ring fighter adapts to the street situation he will do much better than someone who practices in the air

nuff said

[Tom Yum]

Yep, there are a lot of unforseen variables in street fightin'....weapons, firearms, friends. I would not say that wing chun is ineffective instreet fighting - especially combined with other arts like chin na & shuai jiao, which are sometimes taught in some gong fu schools.

I'm suprised nobody has started a thread on the effectivenss of shuai jiao & chin na. I read somewhere that true san da fights in the old days of China where fought with each arts shuai jiao and chin na techniques. Shuai jiao is Chinese wrestling, influenced by the Mongols. Chin na is arguably the father of jiu jitsu, but includes strikes not practiced in jj.

[Szczepankiewicz]

nuff said

I think you've got that a little backwards.

[CHOKE UK]

Originally posted by ryta1203
Im sorry, I just had to say what a steriod abusing jackass I think Choke UK is. Train so that you don't have to fight. Too many JKD, MT, BJJ dudes on this site. Wierd. Go to the ground BJJ dudes with me and my friend, and you will get your skull cracked open. Fighting means no ring, no rules.

Rita, I've just read the charming things you said about me.

With a name like Rita,
you sure your not taking steroids to make the complete transformation into the woman, that your name suggests you are.

I have to agree with Bri Thai,
that I'm afraid you are undoubtedly "full-of-shit".

Arent you on the wrong forum,
You should be in a help forum for people who have a chip on their shoulder, because of their inablility to express their femanine side in real life, and so do it where they can hide and talk theory crap unyet knows very little about self-defence.
But is a dab hand with a make-up brush !

[ryta1203]

I am just happy to know they have trailer parks and rednecks in the UK too. Thanks choker.

[Tom Yum]

Rita, please do yourself and everyone else a favor and take a martial arts class for real, for atleast a year...stop with this BS like aikido could take on Muay Thai.

Don't you have backs to stab in the office??

[Tom Yum]

Rita, you have issues...

[Tom Yum]

Oh and take some kind of MA class, doesn't matter which one and try to get away with that attitude...ok maybe in aikido. Ask some of the instructors on the board who have dealt with walk in challenges and I'm sure you would be no different

[CHOKE UK]

Originally posted by Tom Yum
Rita, please do yourself and everyone else a favor and take a martial arts class for real, for atleast a year...stop with this BS like aikido could take on Muay Thai.

Don't you have backs to stab in the office??

LOL
Cant help but laugh, very funny, true but funny.

Tom yum, Your opinions are well informed and witty,
and you have been very perceptive,
noticing that this Rita character,
is a bored admin clerk or should I say secretary ?

The joke is,
He isnt even able to compete on an intellectual level,
never mind about a physical one !

[BJJ_White_Boy]

Can't we all just get along?

[Tom Yum]

Thanks, you and Thai Bri crack me up all the time and allways exude sportsman behavior.

I think he's a secretary for a used car salesman...

[CHOKE UK]

Originally posted by Tom Yum
Thanks, you and Thai Bri crack me up all the time and allways exude sportsman behavior.

I think he's a secretary for a used car salesman...

LOL

I reckon, he's a secretary at a used car place,
a bar fighting, hormone taking secretary that spends most of his spare time, not doing self defence, but something that would suit his intellect, like say........collecting ear wax and moulding it into the shape of a map of the uk.
As he seems to love the uk so much,
perhaps he has a grudge for a reason,
perhaps he was refused entry as an assylum seeker !
Trying to flee persecution from people who he/she sold dodgey cars to !

[falcon3624]

I don't see what you guys have against Aikido, I trained in it for about 13-14yrs. while taking other styles on the side. I do have a black belt in Aikido and was fairly good at it. After my Aikido teacher passed away I started jumping from class to class and could not find anything that I truly liked until I came across BJJ. What I think is funny is that everyone rants and raves over BJJ and talks crap about Aikido but once you have taken both you realize that alot of the moves you learn on the ground in BJJ are moves that you can also find in Aikido. I also don't see what the big deal is with MT cuz it is a sport. We have a guy in my BJJ class that has a black belt in TKD and was a MT kickboxer and just using stuff that I learned from Aikido and Shorin-ryu I can beat him consistently and he has even come to me several times and asked me train him in some Aikido techniques. I think one of the things that turn people against Aikido is how in depth it is. I remember when I first started I spent about the first year just learning proper warm up drills and learning how to fall and mostly just getting thrown down.....I did not get to fight and I did not get to demonstrate until I had been in it for about a year. It is also difficult for some people because you have to learn to say alot of things in Japanese and people just don't want to do that, but if you go and take it and actually stick with it for some time it is and excellent art and can be very powerful in the ring or in a fight, but I always suggest taking something else with it to help with striking techniques.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Well Falcon it's rather simple people here compare high ranked competitors to average students of the trad arts

Here we use to have Karateschools that specialized in competition (semi to non contact) training was really based on what could happen during a match, because of this they focus on backfist, reverse punch and roundhouse kick ( mainly the first 2)

depending on what style they did, you would see them also compete in thai/kickboxing(dutch style)

I have NEVER hit someone hard in the face during training, not at karate not at MT but when in a real fight I will hit hard and not pull my punches .5 inch from the object

somehow when you do a trad art you are only allowed to use the techniques the way you train then whereas the modern contact arts are allowed to adapt to the street.
Wheneve someone states he used Aikido or some other trad art,people will say it wasn't pure Aikido, but when a MT person uses boxing punches and blocks instead of the old thaibox style punches and blocks you won't hear anybody here
If you compete in a sport that doesn't hit, you might be inclined to pull the punch yes but that should be also true for MT where you aren't allowed to hit the back of the head or the back

In karatetraining we were very often told that in real life you add a few extra inches to your punch but in MT I was never thaught that in real life you go for the back
Why do people then think that the MT fighter will make the adjustments by itself and that the karate won't make the adjustment even though he has been told to do so?


But I start to drag on