If one representative from each MA fought, who would win?

[Bjjexpertise@be]

The reason they bounce around is because it makes their attacks less predictable. When youa re standing still and are about to throw a kick or a punch, your shoulders move up along with your leg so the enemy has time to prepare. If you were to bounce around, your feet and body are constantly moving all teh time makingit harder to predict yoru next move.

you girl ha ha, ummmm are you a girl?? no youre not are you..are you?

I should beat you to the ground for calling me a girl lol. I was just joking around.

[chowyunfatears]

its to keep your body fluid, not only to attack, but if you are hit you can absorb/deflect alot of the incoming energy. if you are stationary and dont move, a kung fu punch to the grill can knock you down. if you are moving, not only do you have more motion to attack, you arent an easy target if you are moving and jumpin around. what kind of fighter just stands there without moving though ? all kinds of fighters have different stances and forms, but you dont really need a "form" in jkd... being able to do what you want when you want is more important. being fluid is key. there... that probably explains to you a little bit why your friend is so jumpy lol =)

[falcon3624]

I'll have to remember that. I was wondering what the guy was doing cuz he kept hopping all over the place and I thought about just standing there waiting for him to tire himself out and then he jumped in and got me with a few punches. The guy was fast, but his punches were weak (doubt that is the JKD's fault....lol). Anyhow he punched me a couple time and bloodied my lip before I could get him to the ground (had to chase him for about 5 min.). Once I got him on the ground he paniced and turned his back and caught some mean punches and elbows to the back of the head.

Can anyone say K.O.!!!!!! lol.......I just took it this guy was a bad example of JKD although he was pretty fast.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

What move did you use to get him down to the ground?

[Bjjexpertise@be]

You guys think the Shaolin 5 animal kung fu will stand a chance?

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be
What move did you use to get him down to the ground?

He kept bouncing around and then he would hop to the inside to get some punches off. He got me the first time, but I learned my lesson and when he tried to shoot to the inside and punch I ducked low and got him with a double leg takedown. Soon as he hit the ground he started trying to get loose and he turned over to try and pull himself away.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be
You guys think the Shaolin 5 animal kung fu will stand a chance?

no...lol

[ryanhall]

Ghost and BJJwhatever,
Back to Wing Chun:
It uses the vertical fist of 'sunfist' for a majority of its punches. The reason that it does this is twofold: WC was designed for extreme close quarters fighting. In this kind of environment, there isn't enough room to throw horizontal fist boxing strikes. You can't get the hip torque necessary for power. The vertical fist positioning, while less powerful overall, allows for more power on straight punches when in a tight space. Second, WC was not meant to be used for boxing. I have seen the vertical fist maligned before, but without cause. At range and wearing gloves, horizontal fist positioning is superior for power and for combinations. In addition, you will notice that a vertical vist punch does not make use of the shoulder to hide the chin in the same way that the horizontal fist does. This is not a good thing.

Anyone who has read the book, Championship Fighting, by boxing legend Jack Dempsey, will notice that he espouses the three knuckle landing (as used in WC) for bareknuckle strikes. That says a little something, if you ask me. I have stated this before, but if you look at your hand, you will notice that the bottom three knuckles line up with your forearm. If you look further, you will also notice that the index knuckle's metacarpel (bone in your hand) comes in on a diagonal path to the forearm. Though the knuckle is larger, the structure is not as sound. Punch with the bottom three and you should be better off--not that it will matter if you miss and hit a hard target, though. Forehead and cheek bones beat any set of bones in the hands.

[Paul Wilson]

hhhhm

Well it will depend on what form of fighting. You know either grappling or punching arts.

If you ask my though it would have to be Kung fu.

One of these

• Wushu, Shaolin, , e.t.c.

[ryanhall]

Paul,
I'm not sure what you are referring to, but Wushu is more gymnastics than anything else. Shaolin for combat? I don't buy it.

[Paul Wilson]

Originally posted by ryanhall
Paul,
I'm not sure what you are referring to, but Wushu is more gymnastics than anything else. Shaolin for combat? I don't buy it.

There is nothing to buy.

Just my thoughts.

Practitioners of Shaolin Kung fu and Wushu keep producing some of the hardest fighters earth has got.

Ohh yeah buy the way. Wushu is a powerful skilful and all in all one of the best produces of great fighters.

Have you ever fought someone who practices in Wushu kid?
You clearly haven’t by the pettiness that you are showing me!

Amateur!

[Bjjexpertise@be]

I understand WC is built for close quarters, i have trained in Wing chun before after all. Another reason WC throw straight punches is because WC emphasizes in striking middle area of your opponent while keeping your middle area safe.

[ryanhall]

Hardest fighters on earth? Wushu? I hope you're kidding. What happened to people who actually fight instead of looking pretty while jumping through the air. I have seen wushu on a number of occasions, and I know a little bit about combat. It doesn't measure up very well. Same goes for shaolin. I have sparred shaolin fighters, and they didn't put up much of a fight. Just my experience.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

I believe the Shaolin MA are mainly for show. Otherwise they are crap. I mean, i doubt you'll ever fly around zipping through the air and gracefully take about your opponent with the help of the eagle spirit.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Paul Wilson


There is nothing to buy.

Just my thoughts.

Practitioners of Shaolin Kung fu and Wushu keep producing some of the hardest fighters earth has got.

Ohh yeah buy the way. Wushu is a powerful skilful and all in all one of the best produces of great fighters.

Have you ever fought someone who practices in Wushu kid?
You clearly haven’t by the pettiness that you are showing me!

Amateur!

Actually I have had a spar with a couple of Wushu guys and they had been doing for a while, its not very combative but it is quite skillfull. Not effective self defence though.