How will Tyson hold up in K-1?

[Bau13]

I actually think Tyson is lucky if he fights Sapp cos Sapp is actually one of the least skilled guys out there in K-1. He just uses his size to overwhelm his opponents. Tyson doesn't need to worry about punishing low or high kicks.. he has to be careful of course..any guy of Sapps strength and size can KO you with a punch (or hammerfist lol)....but Mike just has to use movement to avoid Sapps rushes and pick his shots carefully like Mirko did to beat him. ... hell mirko hit Sapp early with a few of clean shots to the face before the KO... damn,...if it were Tyson.. Sapp would probably be down on the first hit! - well if he does face Sapp..he should watch the Cro Cop tape...

As for Tyson against the other K-1 guys like Hoost,Cro cop, Le Banner etc...

His legs ARE going to take a beating.... anyone else who thinks otherwise has never felt a REAL leg kick... Even K-1 guys who train to take these kinds of kicks still get knocked down by them.... Tyson would never have felt anything close to the feeling of a Hoost or Aerts low kick. A couple of full power blows to his legs and I even see him quitting.....no joke

As for a punch counter to a low kick... what? you think these K-1 guys dont know about that??? Come on... if anything their hands are going to be up ALOT faster cos it is Tyson theyre up against....they just have to be careful and they SHOULD

Its not rocket science that one Tyson punch can end a fight... but
I dont see Tyson staying up after a Lebanner straight Left either..
They ALL have a punchers chance... Its just that the kickers have a kickers chance too!

Anyways this is just coming from a die hard K-1 fan... I've been a fan for almost ten years!! So I AM very biased

but I do think Tyson will do fairly well if he trains correctly..

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[Maui Jim]

One of the failing aspects of UFC, Pride is the lack of the ability to wind up as boxing takes full advantage of, thus the slow evolution of it fullness of the sweet science of boxing.

As far as I've seen, Mike truly know how to wind up a killer upper cut like no ones business
Add leg attack/grappling the game changes for the boxer as a disadvantage to the full wind up of the whole body.
Mikes got the knowledge and technique, at the age of change and timing/endurance are beginning to diminish.

You can know the fight but the gas tank can get empty much quicker as the body won't keep up, thus why a fighter that knows his limitation in endurance will try to end it quickly as has been evidence of his last fights.

This is how Mike has been fighting I believe because of this factor. (IMHO)
Rest assure he'll train/crosstrain and will learn lower body attacks and should be a great shot in the arm to a still emerging sport.

Depending on who has the privilege to fight him first, leg attacks will be the theme of the day as a meat grinder buzzes above.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by psyfered
After all Tank Abott did good.. and he's nothing but a smaller bob sapp.. Just hooks all over the place.. and knows how to hold his ground

You are right, Tank did okay in the UFC. Okay at best. I mean at first when they were bringing in MA that had never been in a situation like that before and pit them against a guy that brawls for a living then you are going to see some blood shed.

Unforetunately though there is also the adverse side where Abbott has not beat any of the big name guys in the UFC. He claims that he is the only "real" fighter in the UFC but consistently gets his ass handed to him. If Abbott faces someone who can leg kick desently or can grapple he is history, and I have the same feeling about Tyson.

Everyone is saying that Tyson can take the leg kicks with ease but I find it hard to beleive that he can just jump in the ring with a Mo Smith and take 90 MPH leg kicks for very long.

I mean you have to think about this. You take a boxer that is used to set rules that he follows for his fights and then take him and put him in a situation where there are alot less rules and things allowed that he does not know how to do and sometimes just the pressure is enough to crack the person. I mean Tyson is used to punching and now you put him in there and say okay you can box if you want but these guys are gonna kick, grapple, throw you, etc......it's enough to make any boxer nervous.

To go by someone's punching power is irrelevant because look at Royce Gracie who had almost nothing on his punches and fairly sorry kicks yet dominated everyone he got in the ring with. I just don't see Tyson jumping in the ring with the great grapplers and taking them out.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Maui Jim
One of the failing aspects of UFC, Pride is the lack of the ability to wind up as boxing takes full advantage of, thus the slow evolution of it fullness of the sweet science of boxing.

We are talking about UFC, Pride, and K-1 not boxing.

In boxing they use what, like 16oz. gloves? I'm sorry but I do MT and have done some NHB fights and there is a big difference between getting hit with 16oz. gloves and getting hit with 4oz. gloves.

The reason they aren't very good at winding up is because there is not wind up. Sure if you were out there with 16oz. gloves these guys would probably stand there and trade punches with each other but when you put on those 4oz. gloves and start trading someone is going to get knocked out.

I think if Tyson comes into K-1 and tries to wind up the fight like in boxing expecting a long fight then he is gonna get caught with an unexpected shot that might put him down because it's not gonna be like getting hit with the 16oz. gloves.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

what would be the affect of a Cro-cop kick to the head of Tyson?

Seeing that Cro-cop defeated Sapp

[jules]

Let's face it, Tyson has the potential to be great in MMA or Kickboxing.. Like he still has the potential to be great in boxing. But it's clear that he does not train like he used to. Look at the fights he has had after the "Real Deal" and before getting his ass kicked by Lewis. Who has he defeated? A bunch of no name bums. Yes, he did defeat Brothra(sp) but Brothra basically dominated the fight and went braindead for a few seconds and tried to slugg it with Tyson. I loved Tyson and a part of me still hopes that he could be great again.. but the facts tell me no.

[Maui Jim]

I believe Cro-cop is a shinning example of the coming emergents of a well versed crossed trained fighter.

Stand up, no problem, ground and pound; my God this guy can punch the crap out of you with such power even on the ground.

One thing Tyson has is those famous BJJ small calf's that help in escape, but will need more than that to come of this and the money sadly is not what he's use to even when he loses.

[smith&wesson]

Tyson will never fight in MMA!! I don't know why this comes up here. He has contract in K1, this is the base.
In MMA he would be lost in an armbar and this would be the end of his carreer.
Tyson is not interested in K1. Don't ask me why he does it, I think just for some change. He will do some fights and then return in the boxring. Or he will cancel his carreer. BTW what the hack has he made with the 100 million $ he earned in the grand matches???

[Mr. Miyagi]

I agree, we will never see Tyson in UFC or PRIDE.

Let's not overrate our own fighters too much just because we're passionate about MMA or muy thai. The best physical specimens compete for big money in other sports. If Tyson, or Roy Jones, or Lewis, or the Klitchko bros, wanted to forgo $ and do kickboxing we all know damn well they'd destroy anyone currently competing in the sport. They have more strength, more endurance, more speed, and more power than anyone in K1.

Same goes for grappling. If Allen Iverson trained bjj for one year, who here thinks they could make him tap? I can train cardio and technique, but some people are just too gifted.

Wishful thinking, but it would be great if MMA and kickboxing pay as well as boxing someday.

[smith&wesson]

The fight Tyson/Sapp is uninterestng.
Tyson/CroCop is more interesting. Will Crocop be able to conter the Tyson punches? Will he throw kicks? He tries.
Will he be knockouted ähh yes.

[Maui Jim]

Cro cop grew up in a tuff neighborhood similar to Mike and at the top of his game. Eastern Block fighters seem to be the toughest of all because of the struggle to survive.
The chance of starting Mike off with the best may leave him frustrated enough to biting off another ear

[smith&wesson]

Crocop is a good fighter. On good days I give him 3-4 minutes, and this was it. I bet he will not be on his feet after 90 seconds.

[Bau13]

they use 16oz in boxing?? I didn't know that...

they use 10oz in K-1

[ad_infinitum]

Actually it's 6, 8 and rarely 10 oz gloves for professional boxers (depending on weight class and juristiction), and 10oz gloves for amateur boxing.

I'm sorry but I do MT and have done some NHB fights and there is a big difference between getting hit with 16oz. gloves and getting hit with 4oz. gloves.

Sure if you were out there with 16oz. gloves these guys would probably stand there and trade punches with each other but when you put on those 4oz. gloves and start trading someone is going to get knocked out.

I think if Tyson comes into K-1 and tries to wind up the fight like in boxing expecting a long fight then he is gonna get caught with an unexpected shot that might put him down because it's not gonna be like getting hit with the 16oz. gloves.

I don't know about other things, but when it comes to boxing you're *absolutely* ignorant.
Don't take my word for it:

http://www.boxing.ca/differen.html

As for Tyson expecting a long fight .. HA!! Look at his fight record and tell me what is the average fight duration for Tyson:

http://boxing.about.com/library/bl_tyson.htm

if you don't know what you're talking about, better not talk at all.