Savate what the f***?

[m.artist]

Brutally Wrong !!!!!!!

how can become his right leg longer than his right leg???????? they are the same right leg?????????



true, he was a smart fighter - cause his movie art is Jeet Kune Do - and you all conviced - while his actual art is WingChun......

i did that same trick that he did too..... cause i show my opponent the opening of TaiChi and SpringLeg Style KungFu - while my attacking art is WingChun, GoCho and ChiDianBun

HAW HAW HAW HAW.......

the opponent is surprised but its too late.......

sorry about that
meant to say that his right leg was longer than his left
thanks for noticing that.
but yes, that is why he used the right leg

[sirmattu]

how can ou be serious head kicks useless HAHAAHA

[Kungfoolery]

There are two forms of savate: boxe Francais Savate (the ring sport) and plain ole street savate (the old form from many, many years ago)

The street/old form of savate had throws, knees and elbows. The ring version is more sanitized.

The ring version is pretty damn cool.

By the way, I did Muay Thai for 7 years (and still do it) so I'm not anti Muay Thai.

[white devil]

savate is deadly,such a shame it's still barely known by the world

[lei_kung]

Disastrously Wrong !!!!!!!
Note:
Only KungFu/WuShu - uses mostly his LEADING Kicks
(TaiChi, GoCho, Arhats, TanTui, ChoyLiFut, WingChun, SouthernEagleClaw, NorthernMantis, 7th-StarPrayingMantis, SouthernMantis, etc......)

Only Non-KungFu - uses mostly his REAR Kicks
(MuayThai, Karate, TaeKwonDo, Savate, Capoeira, KickBoxing, etc......)

Note:
the reason why Bruce Lee uses mainly his Leading Kick (KungFu)

I know you are at least partially wrong in all three of your points here. First, TKD uses the lead foot a great deal. I know this because TKD was my original art and obtained my black belt in it before I moved on to other arts. Second, Jun Fan JKD professes using lead limb striking about 80% of the time. Lastly, Bruce Lee studied Wing Chun which has almost no kicks in it. The major influences on JKD were not a form or forms of Kung Fu but early boxing (Jack Dempsy sp?) and Fencing but Savate was a big influence on his kicking. For the most part the only remaining influence of Wing Chun is the trapping. In fact many think that the strait lead is a variation of Wing Chun punching but it isn't, that comes from early boxing.

Lei Kung

[>:)]

Brutally Wrong !!!!!!!

how can become his right leg longer than his right leg???????? they are the same right leg?????????



true, he was a smart fighter - cause his movie art is Jeet Kune Do - and you all conviced - while his actual art is WingChun......

i did that same trick that he did too..... cause i show my opponent the opening of TaiChi and SpringLeg Style KungFu - while my attacking art is WingChun, GoCho and ChiDianBun

HAW HAW HAW HAW.......

the opponent is surprised but its too late.......

My god I wish you would come back to this forum. The hilarity factor is through the roof with this guy!

[seppuku]

I might have got myself confused at some point along the line, i admit that freely.

Isnt savate the style that features kicking with the toes? With steel toecaps id understand, but in bare feet is using the toes to make contact really a good idea?
Sounds a rather poor idea to me

[>:)]

Savate people don't DO bare foot that's why.

I prefer the idea to a muay thai kick a) because of my left shin b) you'll get more leverage into a savate kick. And it looks more diverse than muay thai. I'd love to try it out some day. The street version though, not the sport

[Paco]

Check out the "Deadly Arts" documentary on La Savate and then we'll talk.

As one American Silver Glove in Savate who trained under Richard Sylla at INCEP (savateurs will know what I'm talking about) who is also a black belt in BJJ under Rigan Machado put it: the difference between savate and boxe francaise (the sport version of french kickboxing) is the same as vale tudo and sport BJJ. Savate is pure street fighting, it has knees and elbows and throws (lute) and weapons (la canne), so don't diss it outright.

[thescottishdude]

using your knee on an opponent is a very good thign when he's too close to execute a full kick, so if you get rid of that part of the marial art you're going to be less effective with your legs in close combat.

[DonKey]

I practice some Savate in our MMA class, the things I find most useful that a lot of other arts don't emphasize as much are mobility(we have to constantly be moving) and kicking with the point of the toe(not harmful if you're wearing tougher shoes).

We practice joint strikes to the ankles and knees as well as higher kicks to the liver and temple. A good savate fighter is not someone to take lightly at all.

BTW we mix this with muay thai, boxing and FMA to form a very useful training program.

[bigred389]

BTW we mix this with muay thai, boxing and FMA to form a very useful training program.

Wow...that sounds really comprehensive as far as striking goes.

[DonKey]

Savate adds an effective long range aspect to the mix. I like it a lot, just wish I could train more.

[Pugil]

Savate info

http://www.atlantamartialarts.com/styles/savate.htm

this should help explain about savate.

This'll help a lot more, and it's far better researched too!

http://www.cambridgemartialarts.freeserve.co.uk/history.htm

Pugil

[Pugil]

Savate Boxe -v- Savate Defence

Now granted I'm no expert in kickboxing, but do I understand this style right? It's kickboxing without knees?!?!? Now I personally I train with every kickboxing technique except head kicks (I don't like high kicks, I think that they are just shy of useless in competition). But knees are a combat proven effective technique which has caused a hell of a lot more damage in MMA competition then all the kicks combined. Maybe its because knees are my second favorite technique to use, and first favorite technique to see executed properly. But it just seems kind of dumb to completely remove something that has been proven to work. It's like saying boxing without a left hook (which just so happens to be my first favorite technique to use)!!!!

There are two sides to the 'coin' known as 'Savate' - Boxe Savate (sport Savate) and Savate Defence (street Savate). Boxe Savate resembles kickboxing - to an extent. The term 'kick' and 'boxing' kind of gives it away really: Kicking and Boxing! The sport of Savate doesn't include knee-ing or shin-ing as sport Savateurs are trying to participate in a sport that has rules which prohibit those strikes. A bit like Foil Fencing doesn't allow you to slash with the edge of the blade, or use the butt of the handle, or kick, or punch, or shoot for the legs. In Tennis, you can't just throw the ball over the net into your opponent's court because the rules prohibit that - even though I'd be far more accurate doing it that way. Same with Snooker or Pool. They don't allow me to pick up the balls with my hands - not the ones on the table anyway - and simply drop them in the holes. The rules of that particular 'sport' don't allow it.

Now if we're talking 'Savate Defence', well, we can do what we like in that: Headbutt, knee, cupped hands to the ears, gouge, bite, eye poke, throw, strike the throat, kick 'em in the nuts, etc., etc.

Pugil