Shin conditioning, Whats the best techninque?

[Fighterhopeful]

What is the best to way to harden your shins,(and no, im not going to kick a tree ) Ive heard everything from a rolling pin over the shins to shinkicks with a partner with without using pads....any suggestions... By the way i train at home right now and dont have a training partner....so i guess the techniques i need would be solo/
Thanks everyone in advance.....

[theprophet]

Kick a heavy bag as much as humanly possible.

[Garland]

What is the best to way to harden your shins,(and no, im not going to kick a tree ) Ive heard everything from a rolling pin over the shins to shinkicks with a partner with without using pads....any suggestions... By the way i train at home right now and dont have a training partner....so i guess the techniques i need would be solo/
Thanks everyone in advance.....

Don't do the rolling pin thing. please. just don't.

[William]

Kick a heavy bag as much as humanly possible.

Like he said. Kick a heavy bag and the Thai pads as much as possible. it takes time for the bone to build up density. Killing off the nerves first with a rolling pin/bowling pin so you don't feel as much pain.....before the bones have been conditioned.....is a good way to get them broken. The whole tree thing is a bit of a misnomer anyway. Kicking Banana trees isn't like kicking oak trees, they are quite a bit softer.



William

[Maxx]

just like everyone is telling you, ick the heavy bag... but there is a specific way to do it. Most people tend to kick with the low shin to the instep. You want to kick with the whole shin... the foot shouldn't really even amke contact with the bag. The impact area of the shin should start about a palm-width below the bottom of the knee cap. Start lightly because it is not pleasant. I started with about 50 kicks per leg for the first few days. As you kick, don't be tempted to start kicking more with the instep. Keep making contact with the shin. Over a period of weeks or months depending on your intensity you will start to see changes in your ability to block kicks with much less pain.

You can also take a focus mitt and repeatedly slap yourself in the shin... this is sometimes good if you don't have access to a heavy bag or thai pads to kick.

[Fighterhopeful]

Hey thanks every one! I like the Heavy bg deal, the only thing is that i have one of those everlast heavy bag stands, and the supports are long rods on either side of the bag..They arent that much in the way, but one wrong move and BAMO, broken something, probly foot or toes. I guess that would make for some great precision..The other thing is, I have one of those wave master water based "areobics" bags i bought for kicking, but it moves to much and doesnt offer the solidness of a hanging bag.....Im also going to try the focus mit thing.....Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!

[Garland]

Hey thanks every one! I like the Heavy bg deal, the only thing is that i have one of those everlast heavy bag stands, and the supports are long rods on either side of the bag..They arent that much in the way, but one wrong move and BAMO, broken something, probly foot or toes. I guess that would make for some great precision..The other thing is, I have one of those wave master water based "areobics" bags i bought for kicking, but it moves to much and doesnt offer the solidness of a hanging bag.....Im also going to try the focus mit thing.....Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!

wavemasters suck sooooo bad.

[William]

Hey thanks every one! I like the Heavy bg deal, the only thing is that i have one of those everlast heavy bag stands, and the supports are long rods on either side of the bag..They arent that much in the way, but one wrong move and BAMO, broken something, probly foot or toes. I guess that would make for some great precision..The other thing is, I have one of those wave master water based "areobics" bags i bought for kicking, but it moves to much and doesnt offer the solidness of a hanging bag.....Im also going to try the focus mit thing.....Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!

Maybe you can get a few ideas for other options from this:

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?t=6199&highlight=wavemaster

William

[WildWest.]

Kicking a heavy bag is good and the technique Maxx described is probably the best. But make sure the bag is filled with something hard like sand or heavily compacted sawdust. Foam won't do shit.

[Fighterhopeful]

wavemasters suck sooooo bad.

Yeha dude, they suck bad!!!! I want to sell it or something, the thisng is virtually worthless, shitty for bunches and half assed for kikcking....

[Garland]

Yeha dude, they suck bad!!!! I want to sell it or something, the thisng is virtually worthless, shitty for bunches and half assed for kikcking....

They're built to fall over when anybody hits them. Notice I said hit, like a muay thai or boxing strike, not flick, like a TKD kick does.

[theprophet]

Actually, I just remebered my instructor brought in a very large bag of beans last week. He taped it up with a ton of duct tape to keep it kinda clumped together in one massive lump. We have it set up for low kicks right now... beware tho if you use something like this start off very very soft as you can hurt yourself fairly easy especially the instep if you are not careful. Concentrate on good form and really getting the kick chopping down on the low kick. I really enjoy using this, prolly cuz I love low kicks Good luck!!

[Paco]

The ideal way I remember was to have your partner do low/mid-level round kick which you would shin block, but at a MODERATE pace... you just want to get the feeling of blocking with the shin and condition it little by little, that, combined with a lot of bag and pad kicking should get you set. Since you don't have a partner looks like you're going to have to make very good friends with the bag.

[theprophet]

Idk what technique anyone here uses but the following is what I have been taught for blocking/kicking concerning what area of the leg we use for each.

Blocking should be done with the small section of the shin just under the knee (from the knee down like 4") not the whole shin and definitely not the bottom area of the shin. Once you try it you kinda feel that there is a pocket there perfect for catching kicks. Reason why is that the lower section of your shin is your weapon and the upper your shield.

If you think about this it does make perfect sense and it will keep your legs alot fresher in a fight. Why bang up your weapon blocking? It does require some practice and precision/timing to get it right.

Peace.

[Blue Wave Gym]

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Hey thanks every one! I like the Heavy bg deal, the only thing is that i have one of those everlast heavy bag stands, and the supports are long rods on either side of the bag..They arent that much in the way, but one wrong move and BAMO, broken something, probly foot or toes. I guess that would make for some great precision..The other thing is, I have one of those wave master water based "areobics" bags i bought for kicking, but it moves to much and doesnt offer the solidness of a hanging bag.....Im also going to try the focus mit thing.....Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!

if experienced more heavy bag stand/freestang bag/bag problems in general than anybody on here especially instructors so here goes
option 1 take your heay bag stand turn it side ways assuming the bag is facing you like a person would, you shouldn't have as much of a support hiting prob as you did before but you may only be able to throw rL rh kicks in any event be careful(post a pic of it it'll help me more tro give advice)
option 2 make or buy or use your existing heavy bag and hang it from a tree experiment with hanging it from diffferent heights especially if all the trees in your area are kinda short (hang it with a strong rope or chain in any event)
option 3 lash the fucker to a tree trunk or a really strong post on the top and bottom of the bag (some gyms do this any way with at least one bag)
*take off the foam from the wave master and kick it with da shin, I loved to do this but be careful
* there's one more idea you can try but it's slightly dangerous so I probably should not say