Sapp vs. Kimo: total comedy

[fugetsu]

From Yokohama-
Did anyone see the K-1, Bob Sapp vs. Kimo fight? It was on Japanese TV live, and happended to be on TV just as I got to the gym tonight. The Thai trainer and I watched it, roaring with laughter as we watched Sapp and Kimo chase ease other around the ring throwing heavy leather, wobbling (bobbling) around on chicken legs then hitting the canvas. After the fight ended and we caught our breathe, (Khun Kru) Tontson turned to me and said, "That was not kickboxing." Boy, was he right.

[smith&wesson]

I agree though I haven't seen the fight. After I have seen the fight Crocop/Sapp some time ago I'm not able to watch Sapp in K1 again. I really don't know why they let him fight there. In mixed martial arts he is good cuz of his body strength.
Boxing means fast hands/feet and Sapp is very slow.

[dfissionr]

It was rather funny but still exciting to watch the two pund the crap out of each other. Bob Sapp has improved though a bit, he started using kicks (as bad as they were) against Kimo. Did you guys watch Bob Sapp challenge Mike Tyson. SWEET.

[smith&wesson]

Originally posted by dfissionr
Bob Sapp challenge Mike Tyson

Yes and some people think Sapp is a good fighter. Good laughs here:
you wanna laugh?

[fugetsu]

Sapp vs Tyson

Yes, lots of "unique" postings on that link. Tyson vs. Sapp in boxing or K-1 would be a big draw for the kickboxing and K-1 world. Also, Tyson is going through bankruptcy, according to the ESPN boxing website, so he may need to make a quick buck or two. While a looping hook or upper cut from Sapp, with a bit of proper basics behing it, plus his huge body weight, would ring any heavyweight fighters bell, he has very x3 bad form. While he did kick and actually try to knee out of the blumb last night, he did not impress me with advanced skills. Tyson would rip into him and make quick work, akin to the Milco Crocop fight. Bob cannot take a punch very well at all, and his bell gets easily rung. I put my money on Tyson.
In the end, the match would attract attention only because of the "freakish" nature of it, a grotesque spectacul of big, Bob Sapp, and "what-crazy-shit-will-he-do-next" Tyson, and would not be a plus for the kickboxing or K-1 world, in terms of gaining increased respectability in the world of sporting competition.

[smith&wesson]

Honestly said it is not only a problem of Bob Sapp. Mirko Crocop would not have chance in K1 too cos Tyson walks straight in the man and there is nothing with kicking. The punches come immediatly. And that's it - the whole show.

[fugetsu]

Tyson in K-1

I believe that Tyson would run into problems in a K-1 venue if he fought first rate fighters like Crocop and others. Great boxing skills alone does not translate into instant victory in kickboxing matches. It is of course important, but does not quarantee that Tyson would cut through the top rank K-1 fighters. In Japan, former world ranked boxing champions have fought champion kick boxers (Fujiwara Toshio), and have ran into trouble. It happens in the lesser weight divisions, and it would happen at the heavy weight division.
Similar to the flawed logic that football players, being the toughest guys alive, can do any contact sport at the professional lever, ie boxing, kickboxing, or MAA, (which is not true, see Too Tall Jones' attempt to become a boxer, and Bob Sapp vs. Milco, Kimo etc...), the same is true for boxers who want to get into kickboxing, and the same is true, of course of Kickboxers who may want to cross over into the boxing world. Just because Tyson can unload heavy leather does not necessarily mean that he can walk through a wall of kicks and knees and get the job done.
Many Muay Thai fighters do cross over into the boxing world, but they are only successful because they train boxing with the same fevor that they trained Muay Thai, and they develop strong skills and the like. Muay Thai does not equal boxing, boxing does not equal kickboxing/muay thai, and needless to say, American football does not equal boxing, kickboxing, MAA, rugy, or any other sport. As Professor Leonard Trigg says, "This is this and that is that, it doesn't mean (a value judgement, that is,) one is better than the other."

[jules]

The problem with boxers whent he step in the ring with K.boxers or MT guys is that they have no answer for the low kick. To be honest Sapp has dissapointed me. The man is way to agile, cordinated, and atheletic to be fighting like that.

[JP Prideaux]

Have you seen Tyson's legs? those things WILL NOT hold up to a low kick from the likes of Ernesto Hoost , Peter Aerts or even Alex Iganshov. The elite K-1 fighters are too smart to try want to slug it out with him. Theyll go straight for his legs and limit his mobility.

Still one punch from Mike is all it will take... that would make it all the more interesting.

Tyson better start conditioning. Cos every K-1 fighter with a decent low-kick is going to want the chance to upset him.

[Tom Yum]

If Tyson trained intensely with K-1/MMA trainers for 8 months, he would walk thru K-1 competition. Given his bankruptcy, maybe he can reinvent himself in a sport which fans might appreciate him more, provided he doesn't bite.

[Tom Yum]

Who can argue against this?

[RebelFury]

I think many people are missing the point here. I highly doubt that Mike Tyson is going to enter K-1 for very long. Basically, long enough to get some cash in his pocket.

From my understanding, Tyson's going in there because Sapp called him out. And as I have earlier discussed, Sapp is easily knocked out, and Tyson likes to knock people out, and has a decent chin.

My prediction on the fight: Sapp comes galloping out like a horse as he always does, once he comes within range or Tyson, he starts throwing punches/bombs, Tyson blocks many of them, some get through and kind of rock Tyson. Mike then decides to fight, and begins to throw back, but instead of throwing wild haymaker hooks, like Sapp seems to enjoy, he throws straight jabs that connect right on Sapps face, rocking him, and making him stumble around. Tyson then goes in for the kill with more straight punches and knocks the big backwards. KO.

[JP Prideaux]

Its a shame K-1 has come to this.

Pathetic. Bloody awful. Appalling. Disgraceful. Dishonorable.

Say what you want. Bob Sapp and his inane marketing image has ****ed up K-1.

[Kyoshu]

IMO I would love to the likes of Ray Sefo, Jerome LeBanner or Mark Hunt drop Tyson.

[Silent Giant]

Originally posted by JP Prideaux
Its a shame K-1 has come to this.

Pathetic. Bloody awful. Appalling. Disgraceful. Dishonorable.

Say what you want. Bob Sapp and his inane marketing image has ****ed up K-1.

I agree. I think this fight would be better suited for UFC than K-1. Nothing against UFC. I think its a great fighting organization, but I believe that K-1 is a little more refined and a street fight like Sapp vs. Tyson seems like its better suited for the steel cage. BTW, who do you all think would win if Sapp were to go up against a guy like Tank Abbott?