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  • #16
    No kidding, I'm constantly shocked at how some people beleive their reality in their little corner of the world is the be all and end all of martial arts training. Either that or they refuse to accept that people can do things they cannot.

    4 to 6 hours a day is the norm for Muay Thai training in Thailand. This is what the fighters do every single day except Sunday. This is what you will do if you go there and train seriously. You start the day with a run that can last as long as an hour, then you have 2 sessions of training that are both 2 hours long each. If you are a freak like me you can also add an hour of weight training on some days.

    MUAYTHAIFIGHTER, you are consistently wrong every time I see you post. Besides being wrong you're rude. Go check other posts you've posted in where I also tell you that you are wrong. The hint I'm trying to make is... get some facts before you post!

    Damian Mavis
    Honour TKD

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    • #17
      yeah, we all believe you, and the only thing you do besides eating, sleeping and training.. is posting here.. ok? mmmmkey..

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      • #18
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        • #19
          I train in martial arts approximately 3 times a week, between 1 to 2 hours a session.

          I also try to go to the gym once or twice a week. Sometimes, it's not possible to do this because I have to work late, and martial arts always comes first for me.

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          • #20
            IF anybody does full body stretching and it takes over 30 minutes, not only are they definately overstretching but they're complete idiots, stretching is a gradual thing like working out, you cant just learn to do splits in a day if you stretch all day. Overworking yields negative results.

            Here's my regimen
            BJJ classes 2x a week 2-2.5 hours each
            Weightlifting twice a week at the gym 2-2.5 hours each
            Weightlifting at school in the morning for gym class around 30 minutes 2-3 times a week
            Pushups, situps, squats 5-6 times a week at night about 30 minutes each
            On days where I don't go to the gym I usually train about an hour and a half-2 hours of light plyo and/or heavy bag, balance training

            In a given week I guess I do around 16 hours of training, works pretty good for me. I'm almost never exhausted and I have school so I wish I could do more. Later this december I'll probably start going to a lot more classes so i'll up my training by a few hours.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Damian Mavis
              No kidding, I'm constantly shocked at how some people beleive their reality in their little corner of the world is the be all and end all of martial arts training. Either that or they refuse to accept that people can do things they cannot.

              4 to 6 hours a day is the norm for Muay Thai training in Thailand. This is what the fighters do every single day except Sunday. This is what you will do if you go there and train seriously. You start the day with a run that can last as long as an hour, then you have 2 sessions of training that are both 2 hours long each. If you are a freak like me you can also add an hour of weight training on some days.

              MUAYTHAIFIGHTER, you are consistently wrong every time I see you post. Besides being wrong you're rude. Go check other posts you've posted in where I also tell you that you are wrong. The hint I'm trying to make is... get some facts before you post!

              Damian Mavis
              Honour TKD
              No shit !!!!!!!! I know in Thailand they train 4-6 hrs. a day,but these are guys who live on just doing that,their whole life is based on fighting.Wake up bud,but as far as I know other countries outside of Asia anyways don' t train like that.

              Most if not all Americans and North Americans do not have the same kind of discipline training as those in Thailand.Perhaps I went too far in my last post in this thread and should have explained myself better.

              Most people have families and jobs to go to and do not have time to train that often,even most instructors do not train 4-6x a week.
              I do not consider teaching martial arts training althought it is a part of training,there is a difference between teaching and training,although both ways can be keeping you fit.I do realize teachers are constantly learning new stuff as they instruct classes and also learn from their students.

              To say I am constantly wrong in every post I write is stupid,because I talk from my own experience and also go by proven facts of course Traditional Martial Artists refuse to hear the truth.

              I haven't once written anything in other threads about MuayThai or other Traditional Asian Arts that is wrong.
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              • #22
                Training 4-6 hrs. a day does more damage then good.
                Sorry, it was this statement I was working off, which I don't agree with. I didn't apply the context of North Americans training Muay Thai.

                As Mr. Mavis pointed out, if you aren't training 4-6 hours 6 days a week in Thailand, you're not winning.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by OctaviousBP


                  Sorry, it was this statement I was working off, which I don't agree with. I didn't apply the context of North Americans training Muay Thai.

                  As Mr. Mavis pointed out, if you aren't training 4-6 hours 6 days a week in Thailand, you're not winning.

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                  No problem I should have explained myself better.I just meant 4-6hrs. a day of training for North Americans will do more damage then good,because it isn't something we are used to doing.I suppose if someone wanted to work their way to that point they could by starting off slowly,but how many people do you know that are willing to?I don't know any.
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                  • #24
                    I have every respect for the guys here who have been to Thailand to train, and bow to their superior knowledge.

                    But I still think those people in Thailand may well be doing themselves harm. Do they still compete in their late 20's? Thirties? There is a perception that they get pretty well knackered in later life.

                    ButI havent been there, so its just a perception.

                    ps - I still think the guy who said he does all that training is bull shitting.......

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                    • #25
                      For all we know the guy that posted he trains 4 to 6 hours a day is in Thailand right now in a camp. If he is in North America or Europe then he is very focused and probably has big goals with his Muay Thai. Why assume he's lying heh.

                      I'm curious how much you guys think fighters in NHB events and other formats like boxing train each day?

                      Muaythaifighter, I've only seen you in 3 threads and in each one you put out some false facts.

                      1. In the thread about danger in kickboxing and Muay Thai you said nobody dies from Muay Thai fights when in fact several people die each year in the ring.

                      2. In this thread you went on and on about how nobody can train 4 to 6 hours a day and that if they are they aren't training hard enough.... if you saw the people training in Thailand you would realise they are training HARDER than everyone else not lighter. These people are like machines, I've never been so impressed in my life in the abilities of other human beings. With proper nutrition and rest you can easily keep up this regimen and retain your health.

                      3. In the thread about switching to Muay Thai you stated that there were no elbows in Canada (which there are in a couple of Provinces) and that spinning kicks are not in Muay Thai. It is, but you are right I don't see them practicing it at the camps except someone throwing it occasionally. The only spinning kick I have seen in Muay Thai pictures (these are the traditional drawings) describing Muay Thai in Thailand is the spinning wheel kick, the same kick I see the occasional fighter throw and have seen a photo of it used in a knockout in Lumpini. These guys learn straight Muay Thai, they didn't pick that up from Karate or anything like that.

                      Anyway I'm being a jerk, and I'm sorry for that. I just thought you were kind of out of line insisting someone was lying when I know for a fact that some people do train in the way that guy stated. I also think that you generalise Muay Thai based on what happens here in Canada when we are just a tiny fraction of the Muay Thai world and things are very different in other countries.

                      Damian Mavis
                      Honour TKD

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Damian Mavis
                        For all we know the guy that posted he trains 4 to 6 hours a day is in Thailand right now in a camp. If he is in North America or Europe then he is very focused and probably has big goals with his Muay Thai. Why assume he's lying heh.

                        I'm curious how much you guys think fighters in NHB events and other formats like boxing train each day?

                        Muaythaifighter, I've only seen you in 3 threads and in each one you put out some false facts.

                        1. In the thread about danger in kickboxing and Muay Thai you said nobody dies from Muay Thai fights when in fact several people die each year in the ring.

                        2. In this thread you went on and on about how nobody can train 4 to 6 hours a day and that if they are they aren't training hard enough.... if you saw the people training in Thailand you would realise they are training HARDER than everyone else not lighter. These people are like machines, I've never been so impressed in my life in the abilities of other human beings. With proper nutrition and rest you can easily keep up this regimen and retain your health.

                        3. In the thread about switching to Muay Thai you stated that there were no elbows in Canada (which there are in a couple of Provinces) and that spinning kicks are not in Muay Thai. It is, but you are right I don't see them practicing it at the camps except someone throwing it occasionally. The only spinning kick I have seen in Muay Thai pictures (these are the traditional drawings) describing Muay Thai in Thailand is the spinning wheel kick, the same kick I see the occasional fighter throw and have seen a photo of it used in a knockout in Lumpini. These guys learn straight Muay Thai, they didn't pick that up from Karate or anything like that.

                        Anyway I'm being a jerk, and I'm sorry for that. I just thought you were kind of out of line insisting someone was lying when I know for a fact that some people do train in the way that guy stated. I also think that you generalise Muay Thai based on what happens here in Canada when we are just a tiny fraction of the Muay Thai world and things are very different in other countries.

                        Damian Mavis
                        Honour TKD
                        1/.I never once said nobody dies in MuayThai fights.I'm sure it's possible though,what I did say was I have never heard of it and said I doubt it,but didn't say it wasn't true.

                        2/.When I said no one trains 4-6x a week I should have been more specific,I mean people within North America,I didn't mean Thailand and I don't live there I live here in Canada.

                        I would love to be able to go to Thailand and train there for a year.

                        All of the martial artists in Asia train harder then North Americans it is their life.If anyone here does train like they do in Thailand good for them but that is rare,and I find hard to believe anyone here does.It's not the healthiest way to live your life either,I could be wrong but I bet the Thai fighters in Thailand probably don't live long either.

                        3/.Okay so perhaps I was mistaken about the spin kicks,again never did I say you were wrong even though it may have turned out to look that way,if it seemed like that was what I was trying to imply I am sorry,I just have never seen or been taught spin kicks in MuayThai.Somebody else agreed with me and said that it must be mixed with another style.I originally said that because I have never heard of MuayThai spin kicks.It must be rare to use that is why.

                        What I am serious about and believe to be true is my opinions on martial arts though and that I will never apologize for,incase you haven't noticed how I always say MuayThai is the best for stand up fighting and that karate is useless for self-defense.That I truely believe and will stand by,it's a free country and free world I can have whatever opinion I want,no body has to agree though,but it is always nice to hear other people's opinions on things.

                        No need to apologize for being a jerk,we all have our moments including me and I don't expect everyone to agree with what I have to say.If everybody agreed with everything on martial arts there would be no use of having a martial arts discussion board,since there would be nothing to discuss,correct?It is not my fault if people take everything I say as an insult and hate me for what I believe about martial arts.

                        I answer questions according to my experiences and how I see things in martial arts.
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                        • #27
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                          I do train 4-6 hrs a day. But i also teach and own my own thai & kick boxing school. And eney one who knows martial arts is one you treat each other with respect & two i've roled and sparred with peaple like jermey horn, ken shamrock, dan severane, robert brown, & dan weed. Which are all highly ranked fighters. But also they train just like i do. well most of them. so in order to be the best you have to train like the best. thank you.

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                          • #28
                            "in order to be the best you have to train like the best"

                            I agree, I think people have a hard time grasping the fact that martial arts is a career for some people. While they are at work in an office all day and then train an hour or two at night some people are training during the day and night as that is their life.

                            For me every hour I train is working towrds my success. Every hour I'm doing martial arts, weight training, gymnastics or running is just me doing my job so that I can be more successful in the things I do. I don't have a day job, I train during the days and teach a couple hours at night and then train again. My future demands this lifestyle, if I wanted to be a computer tech then I would be leading a different life.

                            Damian Mavis
                            Honour TKD

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                            • #29
                              I train 3 hours 4 times a week (or 3 if work gets in the way) and do 2-3 sessions in the gym and a dance class. I would love to be able to do more but my job and studies get in the way. I think one of the problems is the more you train the more you want to train, I can remember thinking 1.5 hours twice a week was enough and now I'm doing a lot more and it doesn't feel like enough but such is life lol.

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                              • #30
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