MT vs. SANSHOU

[Toudiyama[NL]]

i already understand that karate, boxing, kickboxing, muaythai, wrestling, taekwondo, are all HUMAN DUMMY.....

what i mean is, they did not emphasize "Defensive Moves"

blocking, deflecting, neutralizing is all not in their vocabulary..... they almost block the opponents oncoming punch and kick with their own head and body.... HAW HAW HAW.... that is what we called "Human Dummy" ...... blocking opponents punch with their head and body HAW HAW HAW.....

in KungFu..... a lot of forearm smashing against opponents forearm until the fist lands unto opponents body, then if lands, a sudden followup of rapid landings of fists...... "Defensive Moves is Emphasize"

Again this utter nonsense about other art you have never even practiced
Karate no blocking, deflecting, neutralizing ? you are hilarious man
About every kata starts with a block, nagashi zuki can be used both as deflecting, blocking, attacking and neutralizing all at the same time
Maybe you should read more about other styles then just Shotokan
Try to look for info about Wado instead, one of the four major Karate styles

As for MT have you ever been able to knock out a dummy? these guys can take 100+ kicks from you whereas you wouldn't be able to take one, try blocking it with your fore-arm trained by pounding, but I wouldn't be amazed to see it being broken

You are so arrogant you think you know what people train just by watching a few matches and a lot of hearsay
You still try to prove you'r right by proving others wrong, but it dousn't work that way, it isn't binary, it isn't because they are wrong and you are different, that you are right, no way man
It could just as well mean you are even more wrong (which in this case it does)

2:22
2 "Punches" with individual KO capability vs 22 "Strikes" without individual ko capability ( and not even all 22 together)
You nowadays have these dummies that can measure impact and speed
Do an experiment togeteher with a trained boxer of same size
Let him do 2 of his most powerfull hooks as fast after eachother as he can
Then you have to do 22 of yours in the same time, measurements only count if you manage 22 of them
Now let this be analized by physisians that know how much is needed for a knokout or braindamage
I bet 1000 euros that the 2 boxing punches will do more damage just because you have to manage 10 strikes a second ( =600 a minute= impossible) and therefore can never excert any power in the strikes at all
But it won't come to that because you won't be able to do the 22 punches in the same time

Who will also put money on this bet?

[shootodog]

what, exsperienced in a commercialized way of fighting?????

it will only corrupted my non-commercialized way, it is like a virus to infect me....
no way

therefore......

"ask the non-commercialized exsperienced, not the learned"

convinced????

ahhha! where in iloilo are you again?

[Toudiyama[NL]]

ahhha! where in iloilo are you again?

Go Shootdog, Go shootdog, Go

[retired]

i already understand that karate, boxing, kickboxing, muaythai, wrestling, taekwondo, are all HUMAN DUMMY.....

what i mean is, they did not emphasize "Defensive Moves"

blocking, deflecting, neutralizing is all not in their vocabulary..... they almost block the opponents oncoming punch and kick with their own head and body.... HAW HAW HAW.... that is what we called "Human Dummy" ...... blocking opponents punch with their head and body HAW HAW HAW.....

in KungFu..... a lot of forearm smashing against opponents forearm until the fist lands unto opponents body, then if lands, a sudden followup of rapid landings of fists...... "Defensive Moves is Emphasize"

Ha ha sherwinc you are one dumb f**k because any REAL "traditional" thaiboxing instructor on this forum will tell you that the art is made up of many defensive moves (blocking, deflecting & neutralising) but you wouldn't know that because you only see whats on the telly which is actually only a small percent of the art of thaiboxing.

your so sad i think you should actually try going to a REAL gym & you would be surprised, it's a pity that they only teach mickey mouse kungfu there.

[darrianation]

Again this utter nonsense about other art you have never even practiced
Karate no blocking, deflecting, neutralizing ? you are hilarious man
About every kata starts with a block, nagashi zuki can be used both as deflecting, blocking, attacking and neutralizing all at the same time
Maybe you should read more about other styles then just Shotokan
Try to look for info about Wado instead, one of the four major Karate styles

As for MT have you ever been able to knock out a dummy? these guys can take 100+ kicks from you whereas you wouldn't be able to take one, try blocking it with your fore-arm trained by pounding, but I wouldn't be amazed to see it being broken

You are so arrogant you think you know what people train just by watching a few matches and a lot of hearsay
You still try to prove you'r right by proving others wrong, but it dousn't work that way, it isn't binary, it isn't because they are wrong and you are different, that you are right, no way man
It could just as well mean you are even more wrong (which in this case it does)

2:22
2 "Punches" with individual KO capability vs 22 "Strikes" without individual ko capability ( and not even all 22 together)
You nowadays have these dummies that can measure impact and speed
Do an experiment togeteher with a trained boxer of same size
Let him do 2 of his most powerfull hooks as fast after eachother as he can
Then you have to do 22 of yours in the same time, measurements only count if you manage 22 of them
Now let this be analized by physisians that know how much is needed for a knokout or braindamage
I bet 1000 euros that the 2 boxing punches will do more damage just because you have to manage 10 strikes a second ( =600 a minute= impossible) and therefore can never excert any power in the strikes at all
But it won't come to that because you won't be able to do the 22 punches in the same time

Who will also put money on this bet?

Toud- unfortunately all of your intellect is being wasted on Sherwin’s brick thick head.

I don’t know if he could be knocked out, can you knockout a brick? A brick may not be susceptible to knockouts but you can sure break them.

Sherwin is dumb enough to plant and water twice a week. He’s definitely up for a living Darwin award.

[darrianation]

Ha ha sherwinc you are one dumb f**k because any REAL "traditional" thaiboxing instructor on this forum will tell you that the art is made up of many defensive moves (blocking, deflecting & neutralising) but you wouldn't know that because you only see whats on the telly which is actually only a small percent of the art of thaiboxing.

your so sad i think you should actually try going to a REAL gym & you would be surprised, it's a pity that they only teach mickey mouse kungfu there.

Just to add that sherwin B. brickhead probably couldn't last a round against a good pad holder let a lone a good MT fighter!

[sherwinc]

ahhha! where in iloilo are you again?

in the heart of Iloilo City. City Boy takon ya bay

for me, its a sharing of knowledge learned, as usual, if you defeat me just once, i will never practice kungfu again cause if i defeat - its a disgrace to practice anymore for a useless art kungfu art....

most of our hard sparring here to a ratio of 2:22, but if the ratio of hard sparring reaches to 12:12 just once, i still have to quit practicing kungfu.....


but if you have a background of any chinese KungFu i will never fight you, my hands can feel whether your kungfu is superior to my kungfu or not..... especially if you know solid NgoChoKun or Solid WingChun - i will still have no guts to fight you since my ChiDianBun is a Toaist Based KungFu

Taoist Based KungFu will never defeat any Shaolin Based KungFu such as NgoChoKun and WingChun......

[darrianation]

in the heart of Iloilo City. City Boy takon ya bay

for me, its a sharing of knowledge learned, as usual, if you defeat me just once, i will never practice kungfu again cause if i defeat - its a disgrace to practice anymore for a useless art kungfu art....

most of our hard sparring here to a ratio of 2:22, but if the ratio of hard sparring reaches to 12:12 just once, i still have to quit practicing kungfu.....


but if you have a background of any chinese KungFu i will never fight you, my hands can feel whether your kungfu is superior to my kungfu or not..... especially if you know solid NgoChoKun or Solid WingChun - i will still have no guts to fight you since my ChiDianBun is a Toaist Based KungFu

Taoist Based KungFu will never defeat any Shaolin Based KungFu such as NgoChoKun and WingChun......

It sounds to me like you have some doubts about your kung fu after all. You have been so sure of yourself up till now. Feeling a little week in the knees to actually have to put your fists where your mouth is?

I have no doubt you will chicken out. You’ve said too much to back out now. See if your super secret, super mystic KF can get you out of this one HA HA HA, you spineless little geek!

[sherwinc]

As for MT have you ever been able to knock out a dummy? these guys can take 100+ kicks from you whereas you wouldn't be able to take one, try blocking it with your fore-arm trained by pounding, but I wouldn't be amazed to see it being broken

but if you kick (target is groin) even one kick will hit the MT, the MT will temporary paralized and its your advantage to rapidly followup having no chance to retaliate.....

just one kick to defeat them, you dont need to kick him 100+ kicks to the groin

2:22
2 "Punches" with individual KO capability vs 22 "Strikes" without individual ko capability ( and not even all 22 together)

Note:
all 22 strikes are all targeted to 108 death cavities, which means, it will not only lead you to KO but an instant death if done properly.......

example:
eyes, adam's apple, groin, kneecap, windpipe, etc....

You nowadays have these dummies that can measure impact and speed
Do an experiment togeteher with a trained boxer of same size
Let him do 2 of his most powerfull hooks as fast after eachother as he can
Then you have to do 22 of yours in the same time, measurements only count if you manage 22 of them
Now let this be analized by physisians that know how much is needed for a knokout or braindamage
I bet 1000 euros that the 2 boxing punches will do more damage just because you have to manage 10 strikes a second ( =600 a minute= impossible) and therefore can never excert any power in the strikes at all
But it won't come to that because you won't be able to do the 22 punches in the same time

Who will also put money on this bet?

How tough is your eyes, adam's apple, windpipe, kneecap, etc???? does it need to use 1,000 horse power just to puncture the eyes?????

and all 6 boxing hand attacks is all telegraphic to the eye, yet it is very powerfull but telegraphic to the eyes even if done execute fast still telegraphic........since the shortest distance between two points is a straight line......

[sherwinc]

It sounds to me like you have some doubts about your kung fu after all. You have been so sure of yourself up till now. Feeling a little week in the knees to actually have to put your fists where your mouth is?

I have no doubt you will chicken out. You’ve said too much to back out now. See if your super secret, super mystic KF can get you out of this one HA HA HA, you spineless little geek!

Question:
if you know that your opponents kungfu is superior to your own kungfu, will you still able to continue to fight that you know the result is defeat????

ChiDianBun(Taoist Based) cannot defeat those NgoChoKun and WingChun since those two are Shaolin Based Martial Arts and i will never fight those arts......

since there are no True KungFu here in Iloilo, only Fake KungFu's.......

Note:
the only thing that can defeat kungfu is also kungfu

Note:
In Martial Arts = No One Beats KungFu
In KungFu Category = No One Beats Shaolin Based KungFu's
but.....
When it comes to Sword Fighting Category = No One Beats Taoist Based KungFu Fast Sword

[Toudiyama[NL]]

since the shortest distance between two points is a straight line......

Ah you admid Karate is better

Man you are better than Karate because they are straitlined, you are better than MT because YOU are straitlined

man you contradict your self

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Tok tok?

Question:
if you know that your opponents kungfu is superior to your own kungfu, will you still able to continue to fight that you know the result is defeat????

ChiDianBun(Taoist Based) cannot defeat those NgoChoKun and WingChun since those two are Shaolin Based Martial Arts and i will never fight those arts......

since there are no True KungFu here in Iloilo, only Fake KungFu's.......

There is only fake KF but you still don't fight them because they would beat you
How fake does that make your KF?
according to your rules it foesn't matter if he did KF since it is fake anyway

[sherwinc]

There is only fake KF but you still don't fight them because they would beat you
How fake does that make your KF?
according to your rules it foesn't matter if he did KF since it is fake anyway

if you only see Fake KungFu Students and Teachers here performing their moves..... you will laugh aggresively...... ....... and you can say, is this a Joke?????

[sherwinc]

Ah you admid Karate is better

Man you are better than Karate because they are straitlined, you are better than MT because YOU are straitlined

man you contradict your self

no....

boxing is better than karate, why????

cause the karate punch, after they punch they withdraw their fist and put their fist unto their waist..... while boxers dont put their fist unto their waist so they have time to deliver an immediate speed punch although both of them are telegraphic

[darrianation]

[QUOTE=sherwinc]Question:

if you know that your opponents kungfu is superior to your own kungfu, will you still able to continue to fight that you know the result is defeat????

I am not the one popping off with how great I am or how superior my art is. You are!

First of all I would not go around saying how great I am, how great and superior my martial art is, or that I could beat anyone and everyone. For me to think I could beat anybody just because they practice some other art than I do is totally 100% absurd! And if I ever said this I better be prepared to back it up.

I know I am tough but I am also human and in my 20+ years in the MAs I have not discovered the fountain of secret mystic techniques and I know there are people out there that can kick (or punch) the living shit out of me.

You however have claimed and have stated many times that you can defeat any non-Kung fu practitioner by simple virtue of your superior art and training. You have said to all the KF practitioners that have disagreed with you that they practice fake or commercialized KF.

Now after all the claims you’ve made about how great you are, and the superiority of your style, someone challenges your assertions to put your fists where your mouth is, you begin to pussy foot backwards and start making excuses.

You are the lamest excuse for MAs I have ever seen. So stop cowering in the shadows and come out and prove once and for all just how superior you and your style of Chi Dan Bunk are. Shootodog is giving you an opportunity here don’t waste it or our time.

ChiDianBun(Taoist Based) cannot defeat those NgoChoKun and WingChun since those two are Shaolin Based Martial Arts and i will never fight those arts......

Oh shit you mean there is a superior art than what you do? You totally shattered my view of Chi Dan Bunk I am so disillusioned!