Which arts are closest to a real fight?

[darrianation]

U
THIS WAS MY LAST POST... BE ALL GOOD IN THE STREETS YOU MIGHT HURT YOURSELVES!

Thank God! We have heard it all before, it's like here we go again.

[jubaji]

U r right, I was just expressing my opinions till some frustrated idiot started insulting... but you know it's kinda fun to say things and see people's reaction.
Anyways I think I have said all I had to say about street fights, those are my views and my opinions of what worked for me in the situations I have been, so far I kicked ass and I am respected by everyone.
I realize that it is not possible to have decent discussions in here as I think that all these guys are those who go in the streets giving people shit and looking for trouble, I think that it diturbs them to see there are some people who can kick their asses!
I am a fanatic kickboxer and grappler, but always carry knifes and a gun,you can't fight against armed people bear hands , here in South Africa you have to!
THIS WAS MY LAST POST... BE ALL GOOD IN THE STREETS YOU MIGHT HURT YOURSELVES!

And he rides the short bus off into the sunset...

[Harry]

.I was reading a previous thread about certain styles instilling a false sense of security in their students.It would seem muay thai is the worst.You all think you can kick any and all asses!.

No they dont, but MT practitioners know that there art is highly feared and respected, someone who can kill you with one kick to you're kidneys has earnt you're respect, many arts teach fancy "death blows" but MT practictioners have killed people, not because they wanted to , but due to the sheer power of some of the kicks.
When you've taken a full on shin blow to the side of you're temple come back and tell me that the Muay Thai practitioners attitude is false?
MT is a devastating art, it is not undefeatable, but its hard to defeat.

I think that any MA benefits you, it might not help with techniques, but it will help with overall general fitness and strength for that all important running away section

[sherwinc]

Which arts are closest to a real fight?

Which arts are closest to a real fight?


a HUMAN DUMMY ART is not a closest to a real fight......

why?????

cause they only used forearm/hand covering and using head to block the oncoming opponents fists and kicks.......

Note:
how about defense against a knife stab? will you defend it using forearm/hand covering???? or you will defend it using your head to block the oncoming knife stab?????????

[Nick]

...

Answer: you're probably going to die.

Later...

[sherwinc]

No they dont, but MT practitioners know that there art is highly feared and respected, someone who can kill you with one kick to you're kidneys has earnt you're respect, many arts teach fancy "death blows" but MT practictioners have killed people, not because they wanted to , but due to the sheer power of some of the kicks.
When you've taken a full on shin blow to the side of you're temple come back and tell me that the Muay Thai practitioners attitude is false?
MT is a devastating art, it is not undefeatable, but its hard to defeat.

One MuayThai kick to defeat an opponent??????

then why do MuayThai fights - their fights reach up to 3rd rounds but still, both of the MuayThai fighters are willing to fight to the 4th round??????

cause you said one muaythai kick to defeat an opponent HAW HAW HAW

[Harry]

One MuayThai kick to defeat an opponent??????

then why do MuayThai fights - their fights reach up to 3rd rounds but still, both of the MuayThai fighters are willing to fight to the 4th round??????

cause you said one muaythai kick to defeat an opponent HAW HAW HAW

1. Placing more than 1, '?' doesn't validate you're opinion any further
2. Re-read my post, I said 'can', it doesn't mean they always do, nor does it mean every Muay Thai fighter can do it, nor does it mean they try to do it.
3. Muay Thai requires large amounts of conditioning, more so than some other arts, so they are less likely to go down. Also because they both do the same art, who can devise karate blocks and counters best? A karate black belt, Muay Thai fighters both do the same art, they may not fight the same, but they know about the basic kicks their opponent may throw.

Once again, I said 'can'. I've been on this forum, 4 days max, and already I find you're inability to read posts, or more appropriately, you're ability to delibrately mis-interpret posts and then reply in an laquacious manner, incredibly annoying.

Oh and for the record, I don't do Muay Thai, I just respect it for what it is, a great art.

[sherwinc]

1. Placing more than 1, '?' doesn't validate you're opinion any further
2. Re-read my post, I said 'can', it doesn't mean they always do, nor does it mean every Muay Thai fighter can do it, nor does it mean they try to do it.
3. Muay Thai requires large amounts of conditioning, more so than some other arts, so they are less likely to go down. Also because they both do the same art, who can devise karate blocks and counters best? A karate black belt, Muay Thai fighters both do the same art, they may not fight the same, but they know about the basic kicks their opponent may throw.

Once again, I said 'can'. I've been on this forum, 4 days max, and already I find you're inability to read posts, or more appropriately, you're ability to delibrately mis-interpret posts and then reply in an laquacious manner, incredibly annoying.

Oh and for the record, I don't do Muay Thai, I just respect it for what it is, a great art.

how about MuayThai versus Southern Leopard KungFu Style?????

[Harry]

how about MuayThai versus Southern Leopard KungFu Style?????

How am I supposed to know?
1) I don't know what SLKF is
2) I don't know the stats of the fighters, their experience e.t.c.
3) I don't know the rules, is it NHB, kicks above waist?
4) Why does it matter? I could say SLKF will win, or MT will win, but it has no effect on the real world, why don't you go watch a fight you'reself?

[sherwinc]

How am I supposed to know?
1) I don't know what SLKF is
2) I don't know the stats of the fighters, their experience e.t.c.
3) I don't know the rules, is it NHB, kicks above waist?
4) Why does it matter? I could say SLKF will win, or MT will win, but it has no effect on the real world, why don't you go watch a fight you'reself?

KungFu is truely not well-known to you.

[Harry]

KungFu is truely not well-known to you.

At what point did I say Kungfu was my forte? I didn't.
I said that MT deserved the self confidence it gave its practitioners, You really need to read posts.

So im going to post them again.

Post 1: No they dont, but MT practitioners know that there art is highly feared and respected, someone who can kill you with one kick to you're kidneys has earnt you're respect, many arts teach fancy "death blows" but MT practictioners have killed people, not because they wanted to , but due to the sheer power of some of the kicks.
When you've taken a full on shin blow to the side of you're temple come back and tell me that the Muay Thai practitioners attitude is false?
MT is a devastating art, it is not undefeatable, but its hard to defeat.

I think that any MA benefits you, it might not help with techniques, but it will help with overall general fitness and strength for that all important running away section


Find Kungfu mentioned in there?

Post 2: 1. Placing more than 1, '?' doesn't validate you're opinion any further
2. Re-read my post, I said 'can', it doesn't mean they always do, nor does it mean every Muay Thai fighter can do it, nor does it mean they try to do it.
3. Muay Thai requires large amounts of conditioning, more so than some other arts, so they are less likely to go down. Also because they both do the same art, who can devise karate blocks and counters best? A karate black belt, Muay Thai fighters both do the same art, they may not fight the same, but they know about the basic kicks their opponent may throw.

Once again, I said 'can'. I've been on this forum, 4 days max, and already I find you're inability to read posts, or more appropriately, you're ability to delibrately mis-interpret posts and then reply in an laquacious manner, incredibly annoying.

Oh and for the record, I don't do Muay Thai, I just respect it for what it is, a great art.

Find Kungfu in there?

Post 3:How am I supposed to know?
1) I don't know what SLKF is
2) I don't know the stats of the fighters, their experience e.t.c.
3) I don't know the rules, is it NHB, kicks above waist?
4) Why does it matter? I could say SLKF will win, or MT will win, but it has no effect on the real world, why don't you go watch a fight you'reself?


Look Kungfu!
which I mentioned after you asked a question with no answer, I said I didnt know.
I didnt say " I know Kungfu"

You sir, need to read posts.
Either that or you're an idiot pretending to be clever.

[maymay80]

At what point did I say Kungfu was my forte? I didn't.
I said that MT deserved the self confidence it gave its practitioners, You really need to read posts.

So im going to post them again.

Post 1: No they dont, but MT practitioners know that there art is highly feared and respected, someone who can kill you with one kick to you're kidneys has earnt you're respect, many arts teach fancy "death blows" but MT practictioners have killed people, not because they wanted to , but due to the sheer power of some of the kicks.
When you've taken a full on shin blow to the side of you're temple come back and tell me that the Muay Thai practitioners attitude is false?
MT is a devastating art, it is not undefeatable, but its hard to defeat.

I think that any MA benefits you, it might not help with techniques, but it will help with overall general fitness and strength for that all important running away section


Find Kungfu mentioned in there?

Post 2: 1. Placing more than 1, '?' doesn't validate you're opinion any further
2. Re-read my post, I said 'can', it doesn't mean they always do, nor does it mean every Muay Thai fighter can do it, nor does it mean they try to do it.
3. Muay Thai requires large amounts of conditioning, more so than some other arts, so they are less likely to go down. Also because they both do the same art, who can devise karate blocks and counters best? A karate black belt, Muay Thai fighters both do the same art, they may not fight the same, but they know about the basic kicks their opponent may throw.

Once again, I said 'can'. I've been on this forum, 4 days max, and already I find you're inability to read posts, or more appropriately, you're ability to delibrately mis-interpret posts and then reply in an laquacious manner, incredibly annoying.

Oh and for the record, I don't do Muay Thai, I just respect it for what it is, a great art.

Find Kungfu in there?

Post 3:How am I supposed to know?
1) I don't know what SLKF is
2) I don't know the stats of the fighters, their experience e.t.c.
3) I don't know the rules, is it NHB, kicks above waist?
4) Why does it matter? I could say SLKF will win, or MT will win, but it has no effect on the real world, why don't you go watch a fight you'reself?


Look Kungfu!
which I mentioned after you asked a question with no answer, I said I didnt know.
I didnt say " I know Kungfu"

You sir, need to read posts.
Either that or you're an idiot pretending to be clever.

both of you Serwinc and Harry are stupid!!!!!!!!!

serwinc (the idiot) said that MT practitioners know that there art is highly feared and respected, someone who can kill you with one kick to you're kidneys has earnt you're respect, many arts teach fancy "death blows" but MT practictioners have killed people, not because they wanted to , but due to the sheer power of some of the kicks.

i think, if serwinc is the idiot, then you Harry are the Brain Damage

both of you are crazy and stupid

[Harry]

both of you Serwinc and Harry are stupid!!!!!!!!!

serwinc (the idiot) said that MT practitioners know that there art is highly feared and respected, someone who can kill you with one kick to you're kidneys has earnt you're respect, many arts teach fancy "death blows" but MT practictioners have killed people, not because they wanted to , but due to the sheer power of some of the kicks.

i think, if serwinc is the idiot, then you Harry are the Brain Damage

both of you are crazy and stupid

That post made no sense.
Also I was the one saying that MT practitioners had a reason for the self confidence, I didn't say it was the best art, nor that they could all kill people.
In fact, I didn't slag off Kung Fu either.

[cruor7]

I apoligize for interrupting your argument..*ahem*..discussion, but just to give my opinion on the orginal question, because of its origins, i think pankration is the closest style i have yet to find to an actual confrontation.
of course, because it resrticts gouging, it is still not instinct fighting.
But thats just my opinion, listen if you like.

[sherwinc]

I apoligize for interrupting your argument..*ahem*..discussion, but just to give my opinion on the orginal question, because of its origins, i think pankration is the closest style i have yet to find to an actual confrontation.
of course, because it resrticts gouging, it is still not instinct fighting.
But thats just my opinion, listen if you like.

pankration??????

i am not sure but i think Pankration will beat Karate and Tae Kwon Do

cause i saw Pankration in UFC......