Right in the balls!!!

[piousmaximus]

are you a statistician?

Yes. I specialize in crotch-kick sample studies pertaining to demographics containing hypotrophied frontal-lobed individuals.

[Garland]

You watched those youtube clips too, huh?

The only sure bet is that there are no sure bets. But, there are odds and better odds.

are you a statistician?

[piousmaximus]

You watched those youtube clips too, huh?

The only sure bet is that there are no sure bets. But, there are odds and better odds.

[Garland]

Case studies
There's no such thing as a sure weapon for all instances, but a kick in the nuts is as sure a bet as there is one.

There are also case studies of fetishists who can't get off without a little snap crackle pop right in the warm and fuzzies. Not such a sure bet.

[piousmaximus]

Some people can take a good kick in the balls and keep coming at you, with adrenalin flowing you often don't get full effects of hit until after a fight.

Yes, but the same thing could be said about guns. Case studies are not unheard off of dudes taking a half-dozen 9mm rounds and still putting up a fight. Doesn't change the fact that if the need (and opportunity) arose, I'd unload my beretta on the fucker who breaks into my home.

There's no such thing as a sure weapon for all instances, but a kick in the nuts is as sure a bet as there is one.

[DragonsWay]

Some people can take a good kick in the balls and keep coming at you, with adrenalin flowing you often don't get full effects of hit until after a fight. Despite everyone saying to the contrary , the balls are not that easy to hit especially if opponent moves at you. Even if they stand still, all men have automatic defence against strikes to the balls thats built into them, they flinch or move back without thought.

[jubaji]

I think the groin is a great target. And yes if you don't get your desired results you better do something else and quick wether it's cupping your hand and rupturing his ear drum, poking his eyes, striking his throat, or stomping on the inside or outside of his ankles.

...................or, you could actually learn how to fight.

[MMA Apostate]

I think the groin is a great target. And yes if you don't get your desired results you better do something else and quick wether it's cupping your hand and rupturing his ear drum, poking his eyes, striking his throat, or stomping on the inside or outside of his ankles. Because you just raised the level of that fight that the attacker might not have gone too(if you know it or not) and he'll come after you with alot more intensity than before.

[bigred389]

Not to mention, if you're in a position to use an effective groin shot(close enough to deliver a solid knee in) you're in a position to do plenty of other things should that particular option fail.

[Shard]

No, but most of the time.
A knee to the nuts is perhaps one of the highest percentage moves I've seen, man. Maybe 80-90% of the time, it causes the desired effect, or creates the types of opportunities for you to run, or finish fucking up you're opponent. Especially if you've got good prummb work...if you hurt them in there, they'll either drop, or be unable to respond to you cracking your knees into their ribs and face.

Not going to argue with you on that point, i agree that the chance the kick will create a nice opening to exploit is quite high.
The problem is when kicks to the groin techniques are taught as a silver bullet techniques, as many so called self-defense classes do.

A kick to the nuts is definately not a fight stopper. If nothing else is done, your groin shot was worth nothing. Be it running away or incapacitating the other person. If you reach the point where you've been forced to use a groin shot, you've reached the point where you need to followup on that groind shot.

[Garland]

Usually, when a groin strike "fails" the problem lies in the execution, not the technique's concepts.

It actually CAN be considered a difficult target. I've had a soccer ball maliciously kicked into my groin...the shot went high, as my low pants deceived the bastard who tried it. It LOOKED bad, but I really didn't feel a thing.

In other words, the problem generally is that b/c you can't see it, and of course, size also varies , you won't always hit it as well as you intended. And what if it's a big fat guy? He might have enormous thighs that pad the impact of an upwards directed knee.

Point is, if it connects, it's got a great chance of having the desired effects. Connecting properly, however, is no guarantee.

There probably are exceptions(guys on drugs? adrenaline?) but from a medical perspective, you're hitting something with a lot of nerves.

Bing bing bing...we have a winner.



And I have an excuse for my thunder thighs...they're strategically placed protection.

[bigred389]

Usually, when a groin strike "fails" the problem lies in the execution, not the technique's concepts.

It actually CAN be considered a difficult target. I've had a soccer ball maliciously kicked into my groin...the shot went high, as my low pants deceived the bastard who tried it. It LOOKED bad, but I really didn't feel a thing.

In other words, the problem generally is that b/c you can't see it, and of course, size also varies , you won't always hit it as well as you intended. And what if it's a big fat guy? He might have enormous thighs that pad the impact of an upwards directed knee.

Point is, if it connects, it's got a great chance of having the desired effects. Connecting properly, however, is no guarantee.

There probably are exceptions(guys on drugs? adrenaline?) but from a medical perspective, you're hitting something with a lot of nerves.

[Garland]

It doesn't make me double over and fall everytime.

No, but most of the time.
A knee to the nuts is perhaps one of the highest percentage moves I've seen, man. Maybe 80-90% of the time, it causes the desired effect, or creates the types of opportunities for you to run, or finish fucking up you're opponent. Especially if you've got good prummb work...if you hurt them in there, they'll either drop, or be unable to respond to you cracking your knees into their ribs and face.

[Shard]

Well, if a groin kick sums up your "A" Plan. Then Brother, you just failed with an "E" Grade.
If you think that a groin kick will work. Yes you are right. If you think a groin kick is going to work everytime, you couldn't be more wrong. If you think a groin kick will work most of the time, you are making a huge gamble.

I've been kicked during sparring and even knee-ed in the groin at times when i forget my cup. It doesn't make me double over and fall everytime.

You'd better be able to back up that groin kick if you plan on using it. Its not if your groin kick will fail, its when.

[sephiroth05]

Just curious of how many people here wud kick sum1 in the balls lol. . . after all its one of the best hits to get sum1 with!! and yes i no there is all these fancies finger jab death touches that can kill a 7ft man instantly but u aint really gona do any of that nonsense in a fight.

to hell with it like, its the first place al go for if am gona get jumped or sumit!! as hard as i can, try to crush the buggers lol!

I am amazed anytime someone suggests using a groin kick. First of all, most people will expect this to happen, which is why it is easily defended. And secondly, anyone who has been kicked there knows that the real pain doesn't hit for a few seconds. Which is still plenty of time for the attacker to do some serious damage. Personally I prefer a solid shot to the knee.