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  • #16
    Originally posted by doJu
    Fair enough...its just that the average person can use a gun effectively against an attacker or two with no gun training at all.
    doJu, no disrespect, but the guy is asking whether or not judo is practical for a street fight, not whether to get a gun to shoot up people.
    We all know a gun will beat any martial arts style.

    Originally posted by Tant01
    Judo is for playing with friends, Jujutsu is for killing your enemies...
    Judo can be as deadly as you want it to be.

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    • #17
      what's a wad?

      Originally posted by doJu
      Fair enough...its just that the average person can use a gun effectively against an attacker or two with no gun training at all.
      In my experience the "average" person can barely figure out where to put the bullets in a revolver... The average person is afraid of recoil, without some training or experience with the gun they use they are likely to fail to defend anything. Don't be a wad. That's gun talk for the plastic or paper between the powder charge and the projectile...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tant01
        In my experience the "average" person can barely figure out where to put the bullets in a revolver... The average person is afraid of recoil, without some training or experience with the gun they use they are likely to fail to defend anything. Don't be a wad. That's gun talk for the plastic or paper between the powder charge and the projectile...
        Whaat?? Anyway, youve proved your point.

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        • #19
          Judo works good...

          Originally posted by Adept
          ....

          Judo can be as deadly as you want it to be.

          If you want it to be deadly it's not really Judo is it? Why KILL when you can put them on the deck and keep them there? Why kill when you can break thier arms or put them to sleep? The IDEA of Judo is NOT to kill...

          It's about making better people, not making better fighters.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Tant01
            If you want it to be deadly it's not really Judo is it? Why KILL when you can put them on the deck and keep them there? Why kill when you can break thier arms or put them to sleep? The IDEA of Judo is NOT to kill...

            It's about making better people, not making better fighters.
            Who said anything about killing anyone? Or making better fighters?

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                  • #24
                    Yeah, uh, darrianation, you have good points here and there, but you're not on topic. The man here is asking whether or not judo is practical for a streetfight. He never said he was going to stop ONLY at judo, only if it was worth training in. He isn't worried about 5 on 1 fights or people armed up with baseball bats, guns, or magic wands. Now, I know in a "street fight", anything is possible and the one guy can be armed. I am speaking from a hand to hand combat point of view. You start throwing in all these complications of "what if's". You start talking about how this and that is one dimensional and you want to be multi dimensional. I mean, don't get me wrong, we should all try and better ourselves, but you're complicating the matter with all these scenarios. You make it sound like we're suppose to live a life like John Statham in "The Transporter", which really isn't living at all with all that paranoia of death. I don't know jigmastermatt personally, but I"m guessing he's an average Joe like the rest of us here with a LIFE. If he is, he just wants enough self defense skills to have that confidence to walk through a street, knowing he's able to take anyone on of any size 1 on 1. Not against an army. Not against guns. Not against Randy Couture and the UFC fighters. Again, this is from a hand to hand combat point of view. If the thug has a gun then it's a different topic of discussion for another day.

                    Your little gun training scenario. Yeah, and "what if" you're fighting against 5 other thugs armed with AK-47s? "What if" they have a bullet proof vest on and you don't? "What if" they use magic bullets? If you want to do "what if" scenarios here and you speak of it like self defense, no one on this planet will ever get the right combination. You might get close, but you "might be preparing for a fight you're never going to get."

                    And the drunk friend thing. That's as possible as your 5 on 1 guys armed with guns scenario. A drunk friend isn't going to play by the rules so yeah, you're going to have restrain him. Or like I said, you can knock his teeth out and make it worst the next day. So I guess it will depend on what kind of a friend are you, darrianation. You going to stab your Uncle Charlie with a kitchen knife because he's drunk? So self defense isn't restraining Uncle Charlie from knocking everyone at the party out with a beer bottle? So instead of saving him a couple of his teeth or maybe even his life, we should just stab him with the kitchen knife we brought from home and "do whatever it takes to win"? Hmm. Interesting.

                    Oh, and self defense is not, and I repeat not, killing some thug on the street in a 1 on 1 confrontation. You have choices. The courts will look at your martial arts training and go "HMMMM you could've just restrained or choked him out or disabled his limbs with a knee kick. Or you could've just sprint off after you osoto-gari'ed him into the pavement."

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                    • #25
                      Just so you guys know, most self defense situations are: 1 man(or women) is attacked by 2 men(or more or only 1) in a suprising fashion whether it be for money or whatever reason. If you are good at fighting 1 on 1 you can be ok at fighting 2 on 1. But the odds of you winning go down as more attackers come into play. I think self defense is avoiding the fight and complying with your attackers requests. But sometimes you cant...so you should probably train in a knife art...or get a gun and train with that too.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by nutter
                        I agree with darrianation, Aikido is better innit. More rounded.

                        Haha yea right.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Adept
                          Yes, it is good in a one on one fight. Slam opponent's head on concrete, then cross-mount or knee on belly if he's still conscious. Muay Thai isn't or wouldn't be better, just different. If you really want to give your opponent a fat lip and some black eyes, go for it. But what if it's your friend who's drunk? With judo, you can either pin him until he calms down, or choke him out without hurting him. Or if you hate your friend, you also have the CHOICE of breaking his arms or legs.



                          By one dimensional, you mean it has throws and submissions but no striking? Then again that's just about every martial arts style. Muay Thai's a great striking game, but no groundfighting game. Greco-Roman's a great wrestling game, but no submissions or strikes. Only art I can think of that's truly multi-dimensional in its own right is Pankration.
                          San Shou kung fu has subs, strking, and throws and takedowns.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by darrianation
                            If that is true than the question remains is Judo good for SD when criminals are running around with guns (knives, teams, etc). *At least in the U.S. we have to be mindful of amred criminals. Our culture is one where we can be met, anytime, with a bad guy who may already have his gun out.

                            Seriously though, how many of you had your shit ran... been jumped... or ever had people out lookin for them... im assuming most of you are from middle class white america... what's the huge urgency about self defense... what's the worst thing that'll happen to you guys... your neighbor gets mad and does'nt let you borrow butter?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by doJu
                              Just so you guys know, most self defense situations are: 1 man(or women) is attacked by 2 men(or more or only 1) in a suprising fashion whether it be for money or whatever reason. If you are good at fighting 1 on 1 you can be ok at fighting 2 on 1. But the odds of you winning go down as more attackers come into play. I think self defense is avoiding the fight and complying with your attackers requests. But sometimes you cant...so you should probably train in a knife art...or get a gun and train with that too.
                              Really... cause I've had SD situations with 1on1, if a mo$##$# wanna run my shit he'll do it hiself or wit his boys. don't matter.

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