street fight v.s. mma tactics for f.c. fighters

[Blue Wave Gym]

okay I was sitting around sipping from a fo'ty when I realized how completely different my tactics would be during a street fight v.s how I would fight in an mma or k.b. m.t. w.b. f.c. tkd or b.n.k. fight. in sport combat I would use the jab alot set things up worry about takedown defense ect. ect. ect..
Whereas in a street fight I would only maybe jab once then explode with non-stop crosses and hooks until I got a hold of the guy then clinch, try to stay on my feet and dirty box, head but, try to bite his throat out and go for a standing choke or a slam to injure preferablity on his head, neck, or shoulder, then finish off with my knee on his neck like the cops do then pound him in the base of the skull until he quits moving. I know this whole topic is some what obvious and over simplistic but I think it's helpful to examine the street fight v.s. combat sport paradigm from time to time. Any imput would be helpful. btw is it just me or is the ufc getting extremely perdictible latle I'm like 90% accurate about who's going to win each fight.

[SamuraiGuy]

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JESUS!

Took me forever to get that thing made... and I love having it as a sub-forum, and I like these discussions, but not in the MMA/BJJ forum... you say it pertains to MMA, but it really doesnt.

Your just saying you would have different tactics in a streetfight than you would in MMA. Who cares, that doesnt have anything to do with MMA it has to do with streetfighting.

I dont want to be a forum nazi... but ****.....

[cam427]

I dont want to be a forum nazi... but ****.....

God Damned Forum Nazis

[Sagacious Lu]

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JESUS!

Took me forever to get that thing made... and I love having it as a sub-forum, and I like these discussions, but not in the MMA/BJJ forum... you say it pertains to MMA, but it really doesnt.

Your just saying you would have different tactics in a streetfight than you would in MMA. Who cares, that doesnt have anything to do with MMA it has to do with streetfighting.

I dont want to be a forum nazi... but ****.....

Behold! The voice of Significance has spoken!

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

btw is it just me or is the ufc getting extremely perdictible latle I'm like 90% accurate about who's going to win each fight.

So who do you predict is going to win on ufn??

[punkmonk]

Take an art that is based on street fighting. Close range, balls to the walls fighting like you would have to do in reality. The other stuff is just fluff and sport. Train like you mean it.

[kingoftheforest]

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JESUS!

Took me forever to get that thing made... and I love having it as a sub-forum, and I like these discussions, but not in the MMA/BJJ forum... you say it pertains to MMA, but it really doesnt.

Your just saying you would have different tactics in a streetfight than you would in MMA. Who cares, that doesnt have anything to do with MMA it has to do with streetfighting.

I dont want to be a forum nazi... but ****.....

Run over to the Military Tactics and Urban SF threads and haul your boys back in Sammy. You people are all over Military tactics and Urban SF using MMA like its going outta style.


Please be a forum Nazi and get your immigrants back to the MMA forums.

[SamuraiGuy]

Run over to the Military Tactics and Urban SF threads and haul your boys back in Sammy. You people are all over Military tactics and Urban SF using MMA like its going outta style.


Please be a forum Nazi and get your immigrants back to the MMA forums.

Thinks about it for a second.....

*boots KOTF out of the MMA forum*

and just for the record, whos promoting MMA in the other forums.

Darrianation is I believe discussing MMA in the other forums, but I would say he's more of a self defense than MMA guy. So.. he's not one... he was also the only one arguing the merits of MMA albeit briefly (with Boar) in the Military Tactics forum.

Thats the only thing I can think of, and I can post about what I want where I want, BECAUSE I AM SIGNIFICANT!

[stabbychick]

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[SamuraiGuy]

Yeah actually only Me and Boarspear should be allowed to cross-forum post.

And every week we will create a thread relating all the bad mouthing/revelations that went on in the course of the week.

Lmao...

[punkmonk]

I've seen alot of martial artists state that they do not train an art for the street, that what they would do is so very different when defending themselves in reality. Many people come to our class and ask this too.
Many styles teach their style, and then have special techiques for "self-defense" and separate these in class time.
We really don't do that. What we train is what we'd use in the street. Sure, we practice drills and such in class, but all the techniques we do are for the street, not competition at all. (we'd get disqualified quick! lol!)
It really depends on what your wanting to learn when training. If you wish to compete, train an art for that, if you want true self-defense, train an art designed for that specifically, if you looking for health and chi, etc. you get the idea. Some train for fun. These are all good reasons to train.
But if you find that you don't feel like what your training prepares you properly for a street confrontation, I'd change styles, or schools. Or just train an extra art for that very thing. I've studied several arts looking for self-defense purposes mainly. Most i've had to take some techniques from one art and another from another art, and combine them to use in the street. But my style now, I really don't have to do that anymore. Which simplifies things when it comes down to crunch time. For, on the street, there won't be much time to think or plan your course of action, you'll be lucky if there's time to react.

[jubaji]

We really don't do that. What we train is what we'd use in the street. Sure, we practice drills and such in class, but all the techniques we do are for the street, not competition at all. (we'd get disqualified quick! lol!).

Ok, so how often do you actually train in performing your 'techniques' 100% live against a fully noncomplaint opponent?

[punkmonk]

Ok, so how often do you actually train in performing your 'techniques' 100% live against a fully noncomplaint opponent?

Here you go again. Do you participate in live pit fights, or practice this way yourself? Do you just go around picking fights with a "fully noncompliant opponent" so you can prove how tough you really are?
I've stated how we train. I'll use small sentences.

We train with gear.
We use face shields so we can go full force.
We drill application and spontaneous reaction.
We do not break eachothers legs in training.
We emphasize control with joints to keep people training.
We experiement with new techniques and ideas.
We spar standing, we spar on the ground, we spar both.
We do not "comply" with one another, because we are sparring and each wants to "win" the match.
We do not spar point sparring.
We spar continious.

When people train with us that are "noncompliant" or stiff, strong and resisting, it makes it easier for us to execute technique. Wing Chun works differently than some other arts. Be like the nature of water. This way you overcome a stronger attack. Water is formless, so it assumes all forms, it takes the path of least resistance to overcome strength or barriers.

Nice to see you haven't changed.

[jubaji]

Be like the nature of water. This way you overcome a stronger attack. Water is formless, so it assumes all forms, it takes the path of least resistance to overcome strength or barriers.

Be like the nature of a plagiarist and steal other people's words, no matter how cliched they have become.

[jubaji]

When people train with us that are "noncompliant" or stiff, strong and resisting, it makes it easier for us to execute technique.

You said that you "do not comply with each other" and then you said that when people are noncompliant it is easier to execute technique ( btw). So, which is it?