knife drills

[bigred389]

Just doesnt make sense to me, I think its poor training, because while they would respect the stick, I dont know, seems like the rush forward stab stab stab would work best even against a stick.

A stick can still do some nasty things to your body.
You can try to just cause enough muscle/tendon damage that he can no longer hold his weapon properly. Technically speaking, the best disarm(if it works) is to defang the snake by smacking the weapon arm. A stick increases the odds in your favor over empty hand.

Also, if you can pass the knife and slam a stick thrust into the guy's eye, temple, or throat, that'll tone down his aggression quite a bit for some time. Not even close to impossible when you've got a weapon about three or four times as long.

But most importantly, the guy with the stick should be trying to keep it at his range, which means he better have good footwork and enough room to move. In extreme close quarters, a knife in hammer grip is likely going to do nasty things to a person trying to fight with a stick.

[Garland]

Well i'm just saying, they charge in and murder you so effectively with a knife when you have a fist as a weapon, and they can take a punch ,or whatever to close the distance and get to you, but once the other guy has a stick, they dont? they try to duel the guy with the longer weapon, , but close range = knife all the time.


Just doesnt make sense to me, I think its poor training, because while they would respect the stick, I dont know, seems like the rush forward stab stab stab would work best even against a stick.

A stick is longer, and at a longer range (i.e. the one you'd need to even DEPLOY a stick/baton, quick stick or asp) it'll work better...obviouslly shorter weapons are better suited to shorter ranges.

[SamuraiGuy]

Well...the guys are padded up, and a good crack with the stick may or may not (who knows...) cause enough damage to the attackers arm/hand to make them drop the knife, or crack their skull.

But, yeah...any weapon on weapon thing is going to look like a duel, and probably isn't that realistic.

Well i'm just saying, they charge in and murder you so effectively with a knife when you have a fist as a weapon, and they can take a punch ,or whatever to close the distance and get to you, but once the other guy has a stick, they dont? they try to duel the guy with the longer weapon, , but close range = knife all the time.


Just doesnt make sense to me, I think its poor training, because while they would respect the stick, I dont know, seems like the rush forward stab stab stab would work best even against a stick.

[Garland]

I just think its funny how those british guys went from unarmed self defense with agains the knife. Which was pretty realistic I would imagine, running at the guy stabbing, and they got murdered in every situation.

Then when the guy has the stick, it looks more like a boxing match, mma fight, or even full contact stick fight. They start to try to "duel" with the guy, instead of running in, taking one shot with the stick, and gutting the guy.

Just an interesting observation.

Well...the guys are padded up, and a good crack with the stick may or may not (who knows...) cause enough damage to the attackers arm/hand to make them drop the knife, or crack their skull.

But, yeah...any weapon on weapon thing is going to look like a duel, and probably isn't that realistic.

[SamuraiGuy]

I just think its funny how those british guys went from unarmed self defense with agains the knife. Which was pretty realistic I would imagine, running at the guy stabbing, and they got murdered in every situation.

Then when the guy has the stick, it looks more like a boxing match, mma fight, or even full contact stick fight. They start to try to "duel" with the guy, instead of running in, taking one shot with the stick, and gutting the guy.

Just an interesting observation.

[Garland]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBHLrpn07G4 (he he he he...watch this first)
post knife drills, knife work...all stuff geared for real blade incidents...
I'll start with this one, probably the most true-to-life scenario drills I've seen...almost everytime the knifer "wins".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY_6nQT89vQ

*note-these are not in order of how effective I thinkthey are, but I have seperated the good, from the so-so, from the oh-sweet-jesus-no!.

Good knife drills
more of that brittish RBSD group doing pressure knife drills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWQfgwuOAxo

I think a stick would help, break a limb coming in, or defang the snake...blades slice and amputate, I've heard some groups in the phillippines prefer sticks to blades to splinter and break bones...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX2qjvEpnbU

Silat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2DtCUfCyfk

Filograna K. v K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibYLrCSDq5k

Lameco (remember; "disarms are incidental if not coincidental"...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPjhuJOoURU

PT knife tapping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITKMoyI9T8Q

Draws are important

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7uQz8nNe5Q

I LIKE THIS ONE...it's krotty, but they make the guy RUN around to avoid getting slashed...good idea. Too bad this guy can't run very well...back to hurdle and side sprinting agility drills for his ass!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIDRAS_6uWc

ECQ, southnarc, shivworks shit...! yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E36_VQ2jeW4

Barry Cuda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM8BWzDJhl8

More Silat (Bela Diri)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDGSJJ3rG6k

Silat mumbai (notice the best arts are good because...they're the guys with the knives)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDV0SWSGu4

DOG BROTHERS-I like this one the most
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5FvDHq_ZlQ (guess a moral is, it's always better to be the knifer...from a practical, not ethical stance, right?)
Sayoc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94iXkVUue8A

drills for Sayoc transitions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rahwdPXec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUirGNfR79A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A8qnlAdJ3g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbTO7XjXChM

More good FMA stuff (Greg Alland. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kGC6ai8vXU

Atienza Kali

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCfLBn2Ih20

PEKITI TIRSIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqdC-OJTm9M

Damag FMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4sk-Gmiguk

Karambit stuff from Emerson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc4VfNs-0xw

"Visayan" stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjQIRgZHIjk

Dur stuff and theory
knives cut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MkqnIrABW4

knives are fast? no? really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a00TPkq6CBE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tHf_pvv4zo

Tueller's Rule

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BThOSPk6NXk

Inventive (with an assault)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRuEhzJj23w

Iffy stuff...
RBSD drills for stick-ups

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJflGdLkw0

I don't fucking believe it, non static, seemingly mediocre (not complete shit) aikido

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_IvuOfiZq4

Jendo (an obscure...fma...I like it alot less than the others) knife v. knife drills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEM-dFzYjbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUhtF1GT9-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoibgriRHQ

shitty music can't be helped...at least there's some humility here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6_tHdmbhM

Bad knife drills
Systema bullshit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h3VXYPwrtg

omg...is this guy fuckin' serious...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KxIYa95qE

Krotty Bullshit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mw47V_HFQE

Shit RBSD bullshit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG4_iBNHcg8

kempo...this is just sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxlpZjPGKIM

hap-get-u-killed-do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64s4KadOzyk

This shit looks cool...but I don't think it would work, sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxKUfdAeXw

Scripted Aikido Hai-Ya shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBXUEU7nVYk

I don't know exactly what it is...but it SUCKS my nuts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SQ-FXP5AU

Krap Maga (pass the blade, then let go to punch? NO! DON'T DO IT!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTkXqU_HNk

TKD'oh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p30noDtnCB4

Kempo-jutsu? **** this shit double

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH8mGzK88Ow

Combat sambo...good until the knife work, and then...{------}

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wPxnF-V-ZQ

Bunjikunts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWvd4NwIZlY

Kempoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TBa3q1u8Yg

Knife assaults

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QZ5eZzpow&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iRoLIEesHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7KpL-iiskE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJgSyf-Fgr4

Somebody pulls a knife in a "mutual combat" fight, and gets jumped...good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMCoPoQL6ZA

and just cuz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSyUoNmOqlw

MUMBLY PEG! YAY!
I hate children too...but this is going to far!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S8cNrIR5ac

MORE BULLSHIT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuOwoveJV50

the flats of the glass don't cut...sorry pal...that's how you walk across it. The knife won't stick anyway dropped like that...I'd like to see if that guy would let me have a go, and give the knife a little help.


Feel free to post your own...or comment on how I'm an asshole for ragging on TMA's, Krav Maga and Russian martial arts.