Fighting when drunk..

[Garland]

Are you suggesting drinking with a chesty individual? Cause that can cause trouble too...

...amen to THAT noise. Trouble! For some reason, out of past experience...(psycho chicks)...I think I'd be safer getting into that drunken brawl.

[Tom Yum]

Wow, the only true druken self defense is drinking in a non-violent place with a DD and avoiding trouble all together.

Are you suggesting drinking with a chesty individual? Cause that can cause trouble too...

[ACP]

Wow, the only true druken self defense is drinking in a non-violent place with a DD and avoiding trouble all together. That is unless your ignorant and stupid enogh to go drinking alone in a rowdy bar with a big mouth then u get what u deserve.

[jubaji]

man , if you cant handle your piss dont drink.

Well....now we know what you drink........

[Kiwi88]

@#$%sakes

This is @#$%in stupid man , you actually think that shits cool to get like that , thats how people get @#$%ed up or put in jail man , if you cant handle your piss dont drink.

[Blue Wave Gym]

yes

Wouldn't the best 'self defense' when drunk just be not getting drunk? Or at least staying home if you are?

especially if you're going on and off steroids and like to drive

[jubaji]

Wouldn't the best 'self defense' when drunk just be not getting drunk? Or at least staying home if you are?

[Blue Wave Gym]

have to agre with jubaji on this one

You don't.

You really don't. Just like you don't sing better and aren't more attractive when drunk although many drunks think so. Don't let the fact that a room full of your friends didn't kick the shit out of you give you the wrong idea.

but I always wondered if you took two hig level boxers lets say and got them drunk and then had them spar or fight what would happen maybe a gy or school could have a drunk slef defnse day wheer htey al gewt wasted then train with beinbg attacked drunk in mind.

[jubaji]

why is it that I fight better when i am drunk???!!

You don't.

You really don't. Just like you don't sing better and aren't more attractive when drunk although many drunks think so. Don't let the fact that a room full of your friends didn't kick the shit out of you give you the wrong idea.

[Tom Yum]

Nope, if your behavior makes people want to beat your ass than it isn't very charming is it

If you read the "rules" , behavior is almost completely irrelevant, isn't it?

Its like they've already decided something in their mind before a word is ever exchanged...

[Sagacious Lu]

Charm is a double edged sword, Lu.

While one's intentions may be pure and good, some people take charm as a weakness, as an invitation to get picked on or manipulated.

Nope, if your behavior makes people want to beat your ass than it isn't very charming is it

[Tom Yum]

I've spent far more time in bars and night clubs than I really want to admit on a martial arts forum and in my experience this only happens to ass-holes. Anyone who disagrees with this statement is probably in denial about their ass-hole qualities. You don't need drunken boxing lessons, what you need is charm school

Charm is a double edged sword, Lu.

While one's intentions may be pure and good, some people take charm as a weakness, as an invitation to get picked on or manipulated.

Did you read the "rules" ?

[Tom Yum]

It is an interesting concept, everybody is used to training when sobre and in a calm state of mind, but than somebody was like, what the ****?! this is not real training , in a real fight you aint gonna be calm your gonna be really pumped up, and all this training that you did in a calm environment is gonna be worth shit, so what did they do? they came up with reality based martial arts , which is one of the closest things you can get to without actually having a real fight. so far those are two states of mind calm , and pumped up mode, what about a drunk mode?

when you are drunk, will you be able to use a lot of what you learned in a sobre mind? probably not, so why not learn certain techniques when drunk...
that can be applied when drunk

anyways, I will be quiet for now and wait for responses

Sparring isn't exactly a calm environment....depending on the intensity, you've got someone who can take your head off, throwing punches at full speed at your face and body.

I'm never 100% calm when I spar and I shouldn't be, neither am I so tensed up that I gas out before the end of the first round. Its something in between.

Most of the time, sparring is done at 60-70% of your max intensity. That's enough to make you want to get out of the way when a punch or kick comes your direction, but not enough to KTFO. Speed wise, its 100%.

A certain coach I worked with was good at getting some of the mental intensity up too.

When he got close, he would try to rough us up in the clinch. And he was good at saying intimidating things - things that either made you shrink or made you double up and dig deeper into those body shots.

[Sagacious Lu]

I mean you are sitting in a bar, pissed out of your mind, next thing you know some guy is in your face ready to kick your ass, would it not help to have had some training for fighting when you are drunk?

I've spent far more time in bars and night clubs than I really want to admit on a martial arts forum and in my experience this only happens to ass-holes. Anyone who disagrees with this statement is probably in denial about their ass-hole qualities. You don't need drunken boxing lessons, what you need is charm school

[Jiu-fu fighter]

yet another point...

Considering the high percentage of fights that happen in bars, does it not help to be prepared.

humour me for a second when I say this, but is there any school out there that gets you drunk than teaches you how to fight,

I mean you are sitting in a bar, pissed out of your mind, next thing you know some guy is in your face ready to kick your ass, would it not help to have had some training for fighting when you are drunk?

It is an interesting concept, everybody is used to training when sobre and in a calm state of mind, but than somebody was like, what the ****?!
this is not real training , in a real fight you aint gonna be calm your gonna be really pumped up, and all this training that you did in a calm environment is gonna be worth shit, so what did they do? they came up with reality based martial arts , which is one of the closest things you can get to without actually having a real fight. so far those are two states of mind calm , and pumped up mode, what about a drunk mode?

when you are drunk, will you be able to use a lot of what you learned in a sobre mind? probably not, so why not learn certain techniques when drunk...
that can be applied when drunk

anyways, I will be quiet for now and wait for responses