Please, Stop Training For Self Defense!

[kingoftheforest]

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[Tokyo Kid]

If you don't have something GOOD to say... better just keep your mouth shut!

We learn more from criticism than pats on the back.

[Tokyo Kid]

Why don't you take the time to find out before jumping to conclusions?

I said I didn't know, that's hardly a conclusion.

Really, why is that?

Because training for "urban reality" is hardly necessary. Read OP.

Really, what experiences do you have to make such generalized conclusions?

that Tai Chi sucks for self-defense? Really? What the heck are you even asking here?

No, but many do take the time and effort to be better informed and trained to deal with situations they are likely to face on the job.

Yup.

I didn't know that some poor woman getting the crap kicked out of her because dinner wasn't on the table in time was supposed to be funny.

Wow, did I say that? At all? Please.

There are forums for MMA/BJJ, Muay Thai/Kickboxing, JKD, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc. Big deal. If you don't like this forum post then read and post in the other forums.Really, how is that?

There is an obvious circle of like-minded people here who respond to any opinion that doesn't match their own with personal attacks on anything from grammar, assumptions about age or experience, or intentions. A difference of opinion is instantly regarded as trolling, and crys of "LEAVE US ALONE!" or simply eye-rolling smilies instead of thought out rebuttal.

No, thank you. I would rather have an intellegent discussion than start another bullshido style sh** flinging contest.

OK then, let's start over.

How much time out of let's say 10 hours of training a week should be devoted torwards Urban Combat training and what should it consist of? I would say less than 30 minutes, consisting of de-escalation or problem avoidance for those lacking common-sense.

Or, for the less sensitive, what makes one MA more reality based than another?

[jubaji]

VS a LOGGING TRUCK? no fricking contest! I know when to evade trouble! (MOSTLY)

Did you consider poking the truck in the eye?

[Tant01]

Pffft means more to them than you!

Thanks you balanced out a really hateful neg rep i got.

Unsigned of course.

If you don't have something GOOD to say... better just keep your mouth shut!

As my grandma used to say.

Coward's don't mean shit!

No worries buddy...

[Tant01]

Probably more practical than anything any of us discuss here (given the likelihood of a car accident versus a barroom brawl, gang attack, or wild pistoleros riding into town and shooting up the place).


Did you scratch the car against the brush or against the logging truck?

Oh... the brush... I had a few inches to spare against the big rig but he was looking at me real funny like he was surprised to see me almost in the ditch with a shiny silver car!

VS a LOGGING TRUCK? no fricking contest! I know when to evade trouble! (MOSTLY)

[jubaji]

I got scared today... On the way back from the farm I was nearly hit by a logging truck.

I took the "shoulder" (overgrown with brush) and scratched the whole right side of the Mercury... Damn!

Glad we weren't going much faster or I may have been in a more serious accident. The truck was in the middle of the road!

Defensive driving is GOOD kung-fu!

Probably more practical than anything any of us discuss here (given the likelihood of a car accident versus a barroom brawl, gang attack, or wild pistoleros riding into town and shooting up the place).


Did you scratch the car against the brush or against the logging truck?

[kingoftheforest]

Thanks you balanced out a really hateful neg rep i got.

Unsigned of course.

[Tant01]

Being your "Humble Moderator" gives me a certain privilege you don't have!

Rep all around!

[kingoftheforest]

Defensive driving is GOOD kung-fu!

Still have to spread rep around. . . . . .

Ditto....................

[mellow]

Defensive driving is GOOD kung-fu!

Still have to spread rep around. . . . . .

[Tant01]

Play is good fun...

I still have to spread rep around

In Judo they also refer to it sometimes as "play".

What makes you think anyone here trains out of fear?

I got scared today... On the way back from the farm I was nearly hit by a logging truck.

I took the "shoulder" (overgrown with brush) and scratched the whole right side of the Mercury... Damn!

Glad we weren't going much faster or I may have been in a more serious accident. The truck was in the middle of the road!

Defensive driving is GOOD kung-fu!

[mellow]

I don't know that anyone here does,

Why don't you take the time to find out before jumping to conclusions?

but I do know that many schools are based on this concept of "reality". Though an entire forum devoted to "urban street combatives" is certainly a warning flag.

Really, why is that?

Of course, it could all be devoted to debunking the myth that Tai Chi is also usefull for self defense, stuff along those lines.

Really, what experiences do you have to make such generalized conclusions?

Or maybe for law enforcement, though a badge doesn't automatically make you an expert in this field.

No, but many do take the time and effort to be better informed and trained to deal with situations they are likely to face on the job.

I would think if anyone needs to lighten up a bit it would be a guy who deals with domestic disturbance calls all day.

I didn't know that some poor woman getting the crap kicked out of her because dinner wasn't on the table in time was supposed to be funny.

OK, here's a question, why an entire forum devoted to this? I'd sincerely like to know, .

There are forums for MMA/BJJ, Muay Thai/Kickboxing, JKD, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc. Big deal. If you don't like this forum post then read and post in the other forums.

so far what I've seen seems to be more fantasy-based than reality based

Really, how is that?

Feel free to sprinkle in a few personal jabs. (I'll even help: I didn't graduate high school)

No, thank you. I would rather have an intellegent discussion than start another bullshido style sh** flinging contest.

[Tokyo Kid]

What makes you think anyone here trains out of fear?

I don't know that anyone here does, but I do know that many schools are based on this concept of "reality". Though an entire forum devoted to "urban street combatives" is certainly a warning flag.

Of course, it could all be devoted to debunking the myth that Tai Chi is also usefull for self defense, stuff along those lines. Or maybe for law enforcement, though a badge doesn't automatically make you an expert in this field. I would think if anyone needs to lighten up a bit it would be a guy who deals with domestic disturbance calls all day.

OK, here's a question, why an entire forum devoted to this? I'd sincerely like to know, so far what I've seen seems to be more fantasy-based than reality based. Feel free to sprinkle in a few personal jabs. (I'll even help: I didn't graduate high school)

[mellow]

What is it with you guys and hypothetical scenarios? Yeah, it happens, but not as often as it doesn't happen, not even close.

I don't advocate street fighting. I've seen where it leads, and I feel someone who actively trains usually finds a positive release for all that adrenaline. Nor do I glorify violence (except in the ring or cage, that I endorse). I find that those who train for the street usually out of fear are more inclined to need to prove themselves than someone who already has in the ring.

Train hard, HAVE FUN, and make friends. Truer words couldn't have come out of a fortune cookie.

What makes you think anyone here trains out of fear?