Kicks at the fight

[kingoftheforest]

Yes because no one in the ring is actually trying to hurt each other!!!



According to WHO?



Agreed, but bullshit is bullshit, the whole claim about strikes to the leg in the sport has been going on for far too long and it has no basis in reality

speaking of which notice how King STILL tries to claim he has some "forbidden" kicking technique that isn't allowed?

I guess with some boots on he would be snapping legs roadhouse style

And making a claim that sport MMA fighters for some strange reason hold back on their opponent in the ring?

Thats just laughable!

Clue me in on this secret technique of mine this is the first I've heard of it. In fact I actually explained the technique I use several times in this thread, no secret there.

Whats laughable is if you can beat on someone for 3 minutes solid as hard as you can and not kill them,or severely hurt them, you must really suck.

And you can argue with that all day but it doesn't make it any less the truth.

[GonzoStyles]

Hey Tanto why don't you chime in and explain intent to some one. You know the difference in how you apply a technique when you are actually trying to hurt someone.

Yes because no one in the ring is actually trying to hurt each other!!!

Or just kicking someones leg as apposed to stomping it leaning in and dragging down, which btw isn't permitted in the UFC?

According to WHO?

If I may humbly point out that this thread is in the RBMA / urban combatives sub-forum. It should go without saying that it's ALL about breaking the so called rules. There is no sportsmanship here.

Agreed, but bullshit is bullshit, the whole claim about strikes to the leg in the sport has been going on for far too long and it has no basis in reality

speaking of which notice how King STILL tries to claim he has some "forbidden" kicking technique that isn't allowed?

I guess with some boots on he would be snapping legs roadhouse style

And making a claim that sport MMA fighters for some strange reason hold back on their opponent in the ring?

Thats just laughable!

[GonzoStyles]

The reason you got the response you did was it is obvious you were only looking for an argument.

Actually I attempted to get some clarification from you on a recent topic about some baseless claims you were making then you turned on the charm, I believe the record above will support my version.

Yes you are so clever. You've pointed out several times how my bullshit is so obvious. You must think so poorly of everyone else to feel they need you to swoop down and point it out, cause they're too dumb to figure it out.

Actually I just think poorly of people who run off at the mouth without having a fucking clue as to what they are pontificating on, yes I get amusement from knocking people down off their soapbox, but I also believe turn about is fair play, so lay on MacDuff!

The internet needs more caped keyboard crusaders like you and jubaji.

Yeah sure ok wfteva

I prefer to see what top militaries of the world are training, not what someone in colorful shorts and lots of tats is displaying in the new WWE arena, run by Dana White. But there are tons of sub forums to discuss that on here.

No you prefer to see what the top military instructors are training as long as it relates you your brand of bullshit, i.e. current US Army combatives happens to include alot of BJJ,Muay Thai and boxing--all integral parts of MMA, so wtf you are actually trying to say is beyond me, unless you don't view our armed services as among the finest in the world because of their BJJ training.

& your description of MMA fighters once again betrays your personal rancor towards sport MMA, part of the reason I decided to make you wear your ass for a hat.

And boy have you dealt with me good. You've repeated the same tantrum over using different words and posted some pics and rules of a sport I know little about because I don't care for it. I don't know soccer rules either.

Yet I doubt you would express an opinion about soccer rules with such personal disdain when in fact you are totally ignorant about the subject, I wonder why that is??

You feel the need to decry something you obviously know nothing about and I set you straight, if you continue in the same vein get used to the reaction is all I can say.

But since you like to point out bullshit so much it begs the question, if you actually read the whole thread why haven't you addressed the OP and his insane claims that kicking of any kind is pretty much useless in a fight?

Hop ion your phone booth and change into your tights on that one.

I won't even need to put on my cape for that one, it's called sequential order, you posts were up last, so does that cover everything?

[kingoftheforest]

Exactly... LOL Speaking of original UFC fights? Choking the neck (trachea) with your hand, kneeing (the head) of a downed opponent and pulling hair were all permitted...

Those were the days.

I have a few of those ok DVD, some of the earlier "good" ones. Before it became a circus show.

[kingoftheforest]

Like we'd stop kicking or stomping some idiot just because he puts his hand(s) or knee(s) on the deck?

I thought that was prime stomp time.

[kingoftheforest]

Although in one of the original UFC matches Jo-San gets punched in the groin something like 17 times.

[kingoftheforest]

See RULE XXII

You pretty much covered it Gonzo. Clearly KOTF is NOT interested in the "RULES" of your game.

Looks like all the effective stuff to me is "ruled" out.

[kingoftheforest]

I do appreciate that you are so worried what I say on this crappy little forum has such a huge effect on the martial world though. Thank you.

[kingoftheforest]

The reason you got the response you did was it is obvious you were only looking for an argument.

Yes you are so clever. You've pointed out several times how my bullshit is so obvious. You must think so poorly of everyone else to feel they need you to swoop down and point it out, cause they're too dumb to figure it out.

The internet needs more caped keyboard crusaders like you and jubaji.

I prefer to see what top militaries of the world are training, not what someone in colorful shorts and lots of tats is displaying in the new WWE arena, run by Dana White. But there are tons of sub forums to discuss that on here.

And boy have you dealt with me good. You've repeated the same tantrum over using different words and posted some pics and rules of a sport I know little about because I don't care for it. I don't know soccer rules either.

But since you like to point out bullshit so much it begs the question, if you actually read the whole thread why haven't you addressed the OP and his insane claims that kicking of any kind is pretty much useless in a fight?

Hop ion your phone booth and change into your tights on that one.

[GonzoStyles]

It's amazing that an actual conversation about real fighting and things used in self defense was going on and the MMA nut huggers turned it into an argument about the rules of the UFC.

You sir were the nut hugger going on about your deadly kicks not being legal in MMA

Yes jubaji the fact that I don't know what UFC rules are makes me full of shit about any kind of non grabasstic fighting, no it doesn't.

No the fact you were pulling shit out of your ass in a weak attempt to validate a ridiculous claim makes you a turdhustler

It just proves that some people watch more TV than they actually train. No comment or opinion I have made in this thread had been wrong.

Wrong again, it just proves that people who need a pacifier in the form of a "secret" technique are paranoid, fear-addled, and crave a panacea to keep them safe from harm, even if the panacea is really just a placebo....

Arching the leg is a longer distance than a stomp kick, your legs structural integrity is stronger on a stomp kick. Stomp kicks when properly used can be more destructive than shin kicks even at close range.

Crawfishing back to your mantra I see.....

Round kicks should not be used as a stand alone technique and thrown in a combo or with a faint, they are a MUCH higher percentage technique to land, AND if thrown with bad intentions are very effective

See all the things people who don't know shit about kicks are ignoring, sorry I'm not spewing the karate rhetoric you guys have been fed since the 70's. Shit has evolved.

Yes I guess you know more about kicks then the people who make a living out of throwing them....

But once again if you actually knew your ass from a hole in the ground you would be familiar with sport MA history and how the "legend" of destructive kicks to the leg/knee were a cause for fouls being written into many sports rule sets...

and the prejudice came DIRECTLY from people mostly involved in Chinese and Japanese arts i.e. the invention of "American rules" kickboxing.

See my experience dealing with idiots like yourself goes a loooooong way back, maybe I will tell you about it someday, but since it involves actually hitting other real people I doubt you would be interested...

sport fighting has evolved but being a stupid prick has stayed pretty much consistent through-out the ages...

P.S. I am not a member of Bullshido so I guess thats another thing you are wrong about but hey whose keeping track?

[GonzoStyles]

I will admitt that was a nice attempt at a save by gonzo, trying to pretend his righteous indignation over what I was saying boiled down to I was wrong about the UFC rules, apparently the only thing he has any technical knowledge of, since he has added nothing to the conversation but a rules correction for a sport in the Urban Combatives forum.

You get a silver star for effort.

I logged in the forum, read the thread, asked you to clarify a point and then you acted like a pretentious shitbird so...........

I broke you down like the sad, ridiculous little man you are, I could go on but I have to ask myself would it make a a bit of difference to someone as fully self-deluded as you are?

I am sure that the many hours you train your super-destructive,only-for-da-streets kicks against your compliant sparring partner (aka a dead tree) make you more of an expert than anyone else regardless of experience.

kicking someones leg as apposed to stomping it leaning in and dragging down, which btw isn't permitted in the UFC

So care to show us all exactly where the deadly stomp and scrape is listed as a foul by the Nevada state athletic commision?

i.Butting with the head
ii.Eye gouging of any kind
iii.Biting
iv.Spitting at an opponent
v.Hair pulling
vi.Fish hooking
vii.Groin attacks of any kind
viii.Putting a finger into any orifice or any cut or laceration of an opponent
ix.Small joint manipulation
x.Striking downward using the point of the elbow
xi.Striking to the spine or the back of the head
xii.Kicking to the kidney with a heel
xiii.Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea
xiv.Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh
xv.Grabbing the clavicle
xvi.Kicking the head of a grounded opponent
xvii.Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent
xviii.Stomping a grounded opponent
xix.Holding the fence
xx.Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent
xxi.Using abusive language in fenced ring/fighting area
xxii.Engaging in any unsportsmanlike conduct that causes injury to an opponent
xxiii.Attacking an opponent on or during the break
xxiv.Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee
xxv.Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the round
xxvi.Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury
xxvii.Throwing opponent out of ring/fighting area
xxviii.Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee
xxix.Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck
xxx.Interference by the corner
xxxi.Applying any foreign substance to the hair or body to gain an advantage

[kingoftheforest]

I will admitt that was a nice attempt at a save by gonzo, trying to pretend his righteous indignation over what I was saying boiled down to I was wrong about the UFC rules, apparently the only thing he has any technical knowledge of, since he has added nothing to the conversation but a rules correction for a sport in the Urban Combatives forum.

You get a silver star for effort.

[kingoftheforest]

It's amazing that an actual conversation about real fighting and things used in self defense was going on and the MMA nut huggers turned it into an argument about the rules of the UFC.

Yes jubaji the fact that I don't know what UFC rules are makes me full of shit about any kind of non grabasstic fighting, no it doesn't.

It just proves that some people watch more TV than they actually train. No comment or opinion I have made in this thread had been wrong.

Arching the leg is a longer distance than a stomp kick, your legs structural integrity is stronger on a stomp kick. Stomp kicks when properly used can be more destructive than shin kicks even at close range.

See all the things people who don't know shit about kicks are ignoring, sorry I'm not spewing the karate rhetoric you guys have been fed since the 70's. Shit has evolved.

[jubaji]

Come on, kingofhumiliation, you admitted you were wrong, just leave it at that. Trying to salvage your ego only makes it worse. Look at what a fool boringspear made of himself that way.

[kingoftheforest]

No it appears you are a bit confused....

1. My hobby is to call out bullshitters who make it a point to lay it on thick and heavy in the hopes no one will notice.

2. The UFC does permit sidekicks, front kicks, stomp kicks, any-kind-o' kicks to the leg, as a matter of fact there is no restriction on kicking/stomping to the legs/knees/feet at all.

The Nevada state athletic commision, a.k.a. people who wrote the rules, list 31 strikes which are considered fouls, non of which involve striking to the leg, knee or otherwise.

Rules and Regulations - Unified Rules and Other MMA Regulations



Off the top of my head I can think of two high profile fights that leg kicks were used in.



Anderson Silva kicked Thales Leites with side kicks to the knee in his title defense, although Thales did some nice kicking of his own.

YouTube - Anderson Silva V.S. Thales Leites

Brandon Vera struck Keith Jardine with a direct kick to the knee.....

YouTube - Brandon Vera Highlights



It didn't cripple him hell it didn't even stop him from winning the fight the fight he said the injury was minor......




And as a final footnote Joyce Gracie was using stomp kicks as an entry to wrap people up in the very first UFC...

Well so much for the whole "My styles leg kicking techniques are so deadly they don't even allow them in the UFC !!!!!" bullshit.

Tune in next time kids when I will explain why low round kicks are more effective and safer to use for you...

AND your victim!

I stand corrected about the rules of a bullshit sport thank you for educating me.

Now go back to your friends at bullshido.

Hey Tanto why don't you chime in and explain intent to some one. You know the difference in how you apply a technique when you are actually trying to hurt someone. And how much more a kicks effectiveness can be while wearing boots.

OO and maybe the difference between leaning in on a kick and leaning away. Or just kicking someones leg as apposed to stomping it leaning in and dragging down, which btw isn't permitted in the UFC?

Shoulda read the whole thread and actually payed attention to what people mean by "kick".