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  • #16
    Originally posted by osopardo
    Hey! adacas is back!!!
    damn straight i am. i decided to take a break from the internet for a while. Anyways I remember when my highschool had self defense classes for girls and the liason was this big dude who would pose as the attacker. They told him to wear some pads and a cup but he refused. Well later that day he could barely stand up as girl after girl lined up to give him a whoopin. He came out barely standing and with scratches all over his arms and neck. It was a horrible sight. I believe he still didn't wear pads after that but he did start wearing cups.

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    • #17
      Appropriate Protection

      If you want really good groin protection, get a cast iron cup from a reputable muay Thai equipment supplier, such as Fairtex or T 'n T. If class is that rough, the women should be wearing groin and chest protection. As far as the groin shot being over-rated, kick a woman in the groin hard sometime and watch her pass out.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by chalambok
        If you want really good groin protection, get a cast iron cup from a reputable muay Thai equipment supplier, such as Fairtex or T 'n T. If class is that rough, the women should be wearing groin and chest protection. As far as the groin shot being over-rated, kick a woman in the groin hard sometime and watch her pass out.
        i'll give it a try.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cakegirl
          what woman would...want to do a class where she gets to cause genuine, serious pain, and potentially ruin a guy's fertility...???
          Now Cakegirl. You shouldn't be asking questions like this...
          Some women might think you're serious, and want to sign up.

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          • #20
            Haha classes start on Tuesday nights in my garage.

            Er... um guys... would any of you like to come over to be, er, um, "helpers"???

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            • #21
              Okay...even though I'm not a girl, I think my advice could be productive to this particular thread.

              Your instructor is incompetent. Anyone with half a brain knows what happens when you launch a good solid knee to a guys testicals...they go blue in the face, huff and puff, and generally go down to the floor in a fetal position holding themselves rocking back and forth.

              I've accidentilly nailed two of my training partners training prummb (muay Thai style clinch with knees) and both times the result was the same... I'm 140 lbs and I brought a 6'1'' 290 lb guy to tears by not paying attention to where I was hitting, and it wasn't very hard.

              To train these types of attacks, you need to create an enviornment to train, either by no touch to the testes, or by at least, okay, this is important, AT LEAST letting the poor bastard you train with wear a cup. Even with a cup, it's a little sketchy, in my first muay thai fight, I nailed the guy in the parenuem and he was wailing and wimpering for over 10 minutes with EMT guys around him until he was ready to go again...he had a steel cup on...it only protects a certain, especially vulnerable area, but also pushes around that area pretty hard.

              I mean...what happens when you girls start training eye jabs and head butts...? Sorry pal...looks like I scooped your eye there...lets go look for it???

              P.S. ...if she's into REAL self defense for young women, has she even taught you anything from a prone position (on your back)??
              I hate to bring this up...but the main thing you want to defend against isn't a stand up attack...it's probably to avoid getting sexually assaulted...in which case there is no stance, and there is no space for error...you basicly have to do what you have to do...which includes some pretty ruthless shit...but it will save your life and the sanctity of what is most important to you.

              I'm not one of those guys who claim women are not as able to defend themselves as men, because I've trained with some of the best female ring fighters in the states...and have dully had my ass handed to me time and time again by somebody smaller than myself that knows what they're doing.

              The idea is to have the mentality to fight, hurt, and maim (kill if necessary), if some guy you know turns out to be a complete ****-up and tries to pull a quick one, slam his ass with something solid until you're sure he's not going to get back up and run away and call the police...if they try to hold your arms back, knee them or bite then nose or ears, or headbutt them until the let go, and then keep hitting them until they can't move...running away is possible, but they could try and chase you, better to end it there when you have the upper hand.

              Also, use common sense, and always carry at least a little something just in case...avoid taking drinks from strangers, watch who you're around when you're drinking, and if your out someplace that your not familiar with, be with friends. Most rapes are crimes of opportunity. Don't let some asshole see you as a potential victim.

              Too many girls I know have had bad shit happen to them...I've heard horror stories from too many of my friends, and every time I hear something, I wish I knew who and were these creeps were so I could castrate them myself. Just this past week I had one of my best friend tell me that some guy had probably raped my girlfriend over a year ago, and that he had also raped a number of girls I know...another girl we know has a mentally challenged little sister who was raped by a guy she knew who's family were friends, all the time saying that this was the only thing she'd ever get, after which she tried to slice her wrists. Two guys from my highschool allegedly took turns raping some drunk girl at a party, but because she was labeled as the "slut of her class", nobody tends to believe her. I showed up at a party two years ago with a friend of mine who was at the time a pretty big time drug dealer, and saw a girl passed out with some guy almost on top of her, we came over to see what was up and he fled, she was outside and was almost blue and cold to the touch, me and my friend repeatedly tried to wake her, and couldn't so we carried her up stairs, grabbed her friends, and demand that they give us a number we could call to get her help, we called her sister and went with them to the emergency room, the whole time I had to keep a few fingers in her mouth and her head held to the side to keep her airway open.

              She was grinding her teeth so we knew it probably wasn't just alchohol poisining, she pulled through, but we found out later that it was also GHB.

              I went back to the party, grabbed some stuff I'd left there, and the guy who tried to stop us from taking her, who was bigger than me, tried to stand in my way...before he could say anything, I'd pulled his shirt over his face and hit him about three times, and left him on the fucking floor...his friends came over and I pulled my butterfly knife that I always used to carry, and everyone backed off.

              THIS SHIT HAPPENS.
              BE CAREFUL, AND IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN OR ALMOST HAPPENS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TELL SOMEBODY, BECAUSE CHANCES ARE IT'S EITHER HAPPENED BEFORE, OR WILL LIKELY HAPPEN AGAIN.

              well...there's my rant...I hope there's something productive in it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by cakegirl
                There is something so seriously wrong with these self-defence classes.

                What guy in his right mind would go to one, with the knowledge that he was not to use any protective equipment, and that women would be kicking him in the balls "to see what it really feels like, and to witness a realistic reaction".


                "What guy?"....the guy who's never been lucky enough to be attacked by a woman! (LOL )

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                • #23
                  I'm usually pretty well known for speaking out on respectful treatment of women, and supporting women's self defense.

                  However, this is utter nonsense, and from her last post, I am going to claim TNT a troll.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bonefish
                    He says that I can't kick him there because it hurts too much. I think this a load of you know what. What's your opinion?

                    Janice
                    Well Janice,
                    It definatly does hurt. Even with a cup you can inflict serious damge.

                    Gruhn

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ryu (JKD?)
                      I'm usually pretty well known for speaking out on respectful treatment of women, and supporting women's self defense.
                      However, this is utter nonsense, and from her last post, I am going to claim TNT a troll.
                      Yeah, Ryu, I'm with you here. In fact, I looked at TNT's post and could only think "Huh?"

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                      • #26
                        I actually know of a person who's testicle got caught between their cup and leg, then got hit there and they had to have it removed.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ryangruhn
                          I actually know of a person who's testicle got caught between their cup and leg, then got hit there and they had to have it removed.

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                          • #28
                            Well, yeah... you should remove the cup if that happens.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by adacas
                              Their name wan't judd snyder was it?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by osopardo
                                Well, yeah... you should remove the cup if that happens.

                                Haha!

                                It took me a couple times, but yes; that was a good one.

                                Gruhn

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