Morality and Weapons

[DickHardman]

Great. I dare you to take your screwdrivers and pens and forks and deodorant sticks spend ten minutes in the neighborhood where I teach trying to break up gang initiations and then we'll talk.

i didnt say walk around the neighborhood with them, they were suggestions for items that could be placed in your classroom that could double as last ditch weapon in case a student tried to harm you.

[DickHardman]

How much of pen sticks out of your hand when it's gripped like you would use it when striking with it? An inch? That's unlikely to break on a human and if it does it will just have a jagged edge for the next strike. Buying weapons is fine, just don't get caught up in the cool toy market.

what if it breaks and injures your hand??? now you have to fight off an attacker with a sliced up hand.

[treelizard]

i didnt say walk around the neighborhood with them, they were suggestions for items that could be placed in your classroom that could double as last ditch weapon in case a student tried to harm you.

I'm not worried about students trying to harm me. I'm worried about my students getting home safely. Now they want to change the schedule for high schools and middle schools because too many high school dropouts are blaming it on being late for their first class. Instead, we'll have 11-year old girls waiting for the bus in the winter when it's still dark out.

[GranFire]

I break up boy fights all the time, it's the girls that scare me. They don't immediately stop fighting as soon as you walk over. I'd want at least one person per girl, two if possible.

Aye, girls are scary...no bite inhibition...

in a transcendent way, of course...

[TTEscrima]

Of course, the whole concept of using a pen as a weapon (or for thinking of it before an engagement gets out of hand) has brought me some pretty serious criticism from some people...

Without details I can't really comment except to say perhaps they didn't understand your METT-T.

[treelizard]

Aye, girls are scary...no bite inhibition...

in a transcendent way, of course...

they are really vicious... guys are a lot quicker to get into fights but girls are harder to break up for some reason

[TTEscrima]

Just being playful...

It was the newer, more inhibitive acronym in that particular situation, though: METT-TC

The ever so critical C, that changes everything, too many variables and rules, you need a damned lawyer on hand at all times, at least they make great shields.

http://www.justsayhi.com/bb/view2/human_shield

[Tant01]

Mission, enemy, terrain, troops and time (civilians?)

You guys and your acronyms...

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[TTEscrima]

You guys and your acronyms...

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Mission, Enemy, Terrain and weather, Troops and equipment available and Time available

Or conflict profiling in plain English.

[Garland]

Aye, girls are scary...no bite inhibition...

in a transcendent way, of course...

munch munch munch.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMhVLPwH47k[/YOUTUBE]

[treelizard]

Good luck and happy barbecuing.

[Tant01]

Not unlike "C"ameras...

[OpenYourEyes]

I don't understand why that's even an issue. For one, if you aren't willing to kill someone with a weapon, be it a gun or knife, don't train for it. Use your hands to incapacitate them. Why are you asking whether or not it's ethical to use a weapon you've been trained to use? Sounds like a waste of time training for something you morally object to.