Womens self defense, or MMA grappling?

[Sagacious Lu]

So you don't have to hope I find something that works for me because I already have. And added BJJ to the mix. Though that is fairly recent, because I decided to put on a gi and am glad I did because I love it.

These guys can't accept that you found what you were looking for in training that doesn't have their stamp of approval; that explains why Boar's little goon has his panties in a wad.

[TTEscrima]

look! weekend courses!!

Women's self-defense, women's self defense, womens self defense, female self defense, rape defense - Model Mugging

OOOO they have classes on a weekend, did it ever occur to you they span multiple weekends? Are you sure you went to a MM school? You don't seem familiar with the curriculum/class structures. There are only a handful of MM schools which one did you attend? I'm not aware of any Arizona or NM, although there is a school in Denver, is that where you went?

From the model Mugging website:


WHAT MAKES THE MODEL MUGGING PROGRAM DIFFERENT?

Many self-defense courses are simply comprised of a group of techniques without continuity between techniques, strategy, and the reality of effectiveness for women. Model Mugging is a system specifically designed for the special needs of women. Since 1971, this system has developed into a short effective fighting and crime prevention course. In just 20 hours, Model Mugging provides the actual fighting experience that is needed to successfully defend oneself against a single unarmed assailant, an armed assailant, and multiple assailants.

Muscle Memory: Model Mugging is based on muscle memory (operant conditioning). Muscle memory means that our bodies are able to learn actions and then perform these same actions without thought; the mind and body are united in a "flow state." Just like learning to swim or ride a bicycle, once we learn we do not forget. The fighting techniques will be performed through scientifically proven methods of repetition and then applied in real fights where the experience of stress and coaching lock the movements into the body’s muscle memory.

Starting in the very first class, women will learn how to deal with the emotions of fear. In actual attacks the initial reaction of victims is surprise. They freeze in fear while falling into the "valley of shock." The valley of shock is where their mind goes blank and they are quickly overwhelmed by the violence. Because being scared is natural, the Model Mugging System teaches women how to recondition the "Freeze Response" through many repetitions of being placed in the "zero hour." (Zero hour is a military term used to identify the precise moment of an attack.)

In Model Mugging, women learn how to defend themselves in realistic scenarios and use "real" fear to their advantage by transforming it into positive fighting energy. They learn how to fight their way out of the "valley of shock." During the course women also learn to deal with other feelings such as lack of confidence, helplessness, and anger.

The Model Mugging System shows women how to use their smaller size and lesser strength to their advantage. Women learn how to use distractions and surprise against an assailant, which are critical to realistic fighting. It is very difficult for an assailant to defend himself from a counterattack if he is unprepared for it. Model Mugging is a complete and comprehensive system specializing in the needs of women.

Zero Hour -

What makes us difference?

[treelizard]

Who says you can't fit 20 hours in a weekend course? It looks like they do, by offering 8:30-6:30 PM courses on Saturdays and Sundays...which I already posted. The course I took was 6-10 on a Friday and then a full day Sat and Sun, 9-6 or something like that with an hour off for lunch.

Not all of the 20 hours was actually training, though. We did Q+A and a lot of "talking." Take a dozen women and put them in a circle and ask them why they're there and that'll take several hours on its own.

[treelizard]

I went to one in Chicago back when it was MM, then it became Impact/MM and I don't know if they're still around or not. And I'm way more familiar with the curriculum and class structure than someone who's never taken one of their WSD classes. If you look at the current website, it still says they have weekend courses available.

And I am damn well sure that the women in the course I took did not learn how to "use real fear to their advantage." Some could not even get through the scenarios without everyone on the sidelines reminding them what to do over and over again--and I have the video from the course to prove it.

[treelizard]

These guys can't accept that you found what you were looking for in training that doesn't have their stamp of approval; that explains why Boar's little goon has his panties in a wad.

Yeah, I noticed. I thought this was supposed to be about helping women, but apparently it's about selling women on some classes that don't work, and not being open to understand their limitations.

The funny thing is that MM curriculum is about telling women to get on the ground--all the same "ground fighting" stuff that Uke et. al. have been raving against for years.

It sucks when you get so stuck on proving a point that you can't wake up a little and open up them eyes...

[treelizard]

Look! Weekend Model Mugging classes! Just $350-$400, and you too can learn to lay on the ground and kick a padded mugger who's trained to respond as if you actually hurt him!

Doesn't Tim Mousel teach WSD though? Probably a lot cheaper and better.

Women's self-defense, women's self defense, womens self defense, female self defense, rape defense - Model Mugging

The following classes are scheduled at the Claremont Colleges in Los Angeles County

February 2009 Claremont Colleges
Saturday, February 7, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm
Sunday, February 8, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm

$350
February 2009 Claremont Colleges
Saturday February 21, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm
Sunday February 22, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm

$350
February/March 2009 Claremont Colleges
Saturday, February 28, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm
Sunday, March 1, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm

$350
April 2009 Claremont Colleges
Saturday, April 4, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm
Sunday, April 5, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm

$400
Washington, D.C.
January / February 2009
Saturday, Jan 31, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm
Sunday, Feb 1, 8:30 am to 6:30 pm
Course Location:
District Wellness Group
1608 20th St NW # 300
Washington, DC 20009


$475
Advanced Course (Weapons and Multiple Assailants) Spring 2009
Los Angeles - Claremont Colleges
Friday ________, 6:00pm to 10:00 pm
Saturday ________, 8:30am to 6:00 pm
Sunday ________, 8:30 am to 6:00 pm

[jubaji]

You didn't point out any lies.

Every one of those posts pointed out a blatant lie. You know this and won't even try to refute any of your dishonest bullshit because you know you can't. You have no character whatsoever.


You are a lying, low-life scum and the proof is here for all to see.

[jubaji]

These guys can't accept that you found what you were looking for in training that doesn't have their stamp of approval; that explains why Boar's little goon has his panties in a wad.

1000% on the money!

[jubaji]

I bring it up because its the only thing he's written about his experience with martial arts.

You know, I can't recall ever reading anything about your actual real life experience at all. Not 'training' with rubber knives and the like, but real experiences where you put your deadly knife skills to their intended use.


Ever.

[Uke]

You know, I can't recall ever reading anything about your actual real life experience at all. Not 'training' with rubber knives and the like, but real experiences where you put your deadly knife skills to their intended use.


Ever.

That's because no one but pretenders and fcuking frauds come on the internet to tell detailed accounts of how they fight crime in parking lots by suplexing people.

7. People who can accurately recount all the details of their fights weren't actually there.

[Ben Grimm]

Have to agree with Mike Brewer there. Can remember very little about many of the fights I've had. Just bits here and there.

[jubaji]

That's because no one but pretenders and fcuking frauds come on the internet to tell detailed accounts of how they fight .

So you admit that you have spent thousands of hours talking shit about one personal experience of mine and you have not, cannot, and will not ever recount one real thing that has ever actually happened to you?

Like I said, you are nothing but a big mouthed theory boy.


NOTHING BUT.

[Uke]

Have to agree with Mike Brewer there. Can remember very little about many of the fights I've had. Just bits here and there.

If you agree with that then you ought to read jubaji's incredibly detailed account of how he used WWE tactics to disarm a drunk guy in a parking lot. He remembered everything but the color of the other guy's eyes and the guy's social security number.

The best part was jubaji putting the knife to the guy's throat while letting out a Chewbacca like howl.

[jubaji]

The best part was jubaji letting out a Chewbacca like howl.

More lies, you low-life dirtbag? You are just all about lie after lie, aren't you? It's nice that you have no self-respect because it matches how the rest of the world feels about you.

[Uke]

So you admit that you have spent thousands of hours talking shit about one personal experience of mine and you have not, cannot, and will not ever recount one real thing that has ever actually happened to you?

Like I said, you are nothing but a big mouthed theory boy.


NOTHING BUT.

I admit that you're a fraud who doesn't know the slightest thing about martial arts, so you distract everyone else here who came to talk about martial arts by using "Oooo ooo ... look at me!" antics.

And you have got the balls to talk about who spends how much time here? Look at how many posts I've written and look at how many you've written. Look at the dates you and I joined.

At least 95% of my posts give something to discuss about the martial arts.

99% of your posts are just sad reflections of your own life, jubaji. 10,000 posts of unfunny loneliness. And once people aren't paying you attention that's when you really go nuts and begin crying to the mods to lock that topic.

Its ashamed because as much as you say that TTE and I act discourteous and rude we have actually given more to this topic than any one else. We talked about top WSD practitioners and teachers and how their systems are set up. We talked about the element of surprise and how a woman works off of that to get the upper hand. I've even talked about a woman that NONE of you have ever met or probably even heard of but is excellent at teaching and demonstrating that her WSD works. No one even touched on that because like always you all are too caught up in your own bullshit.

What have you talked about?

You've whined. You've accused. You pointed fingers, but as usual you're the same pathetic waste of space. I thought you'd have learned more from your bouncer friend, but apparently you'll always be an internet chatter box who sells woof tickets.

Carry on, jubaji.