Men's Violence

[guy incognito]

I dont doubt that men are evil bastards.Im just adding my perspective.Do you think the world would be any different if women were in charge.I think not.
Humans are violent creatures.
Dont tell me women arent like that as well.
Margret thatcher
Queen Elizibeth the 1st
To name a few.
I dont think women are inferior to men but many women beleive that we are inferior to them.Fact.

[TNT]

All incognito was saying is that anybody can be driven to the breaking point, and that when a women naggs a man and doesnt know when to let go, even a good guy can go bad. This is the case with anybody, but many times women nag incessantly because of the cinderella complex, and they arent living in a castle, with the perferct prince charming. He wasnt blaming women he was just trying to add a male perspective to the equation to promote better understanding between the genders.

He wasnt blaming women
I'm not saying that he was...and as you are both giving your general opinion,because we know many exceptions to it, I am sharing mine. Case in point, you guys would be exceptions, here we are in a forum calmly expressing views and politely so! You guys may have your opinion of my views and you may say to yourselves (quietly under your breath so as not to let her hear )" See that's women for ya!", but alas...look at how civil you CHOSE to be in your responses. A better society through better individuals.

[TNT]

I dont doubt that men are evil bastards.Im just adding my perspective.Do you think the world would be any different if women were in charge.I think not.
Humans are violent creatures.
Dont tell me women arent like that as well.
Margret thatcher
Queen Elizibeth the 1st
To name a few.
I dont think women are inferior to men but many women beleive that we are inferior to them.Fact.

...Personally..I don't think men were made to rule....as far as women believing that men are inferior??? Well truth be told....JK

[guy incognito]

Personally i dont think men or women are better in charge.Its an idividual thing.Some of the men that have been in charge through history are right pork chops.For the most part men are complete jerks and get what they deserve.But please dont throw us all in the same box.

[TNT]

Personally i dont think men or women are better in charge.Its an idividual thing.Some of the men that have been in charge through history are right pork chops.For the most part men are complete jerks and get what they deserve.But please dont throw us all in the same box.

I am entitled to my opinion just as you are entitled to yours. I have not thrown all men in the same box, I happen to know some very wonderful ones. Just as I have also had the bad fortune of encountering some women that are a diminishment to my gender. If you review my posts here, I have made comments regarding super egoed, non- altruistic beasts , and I said that it was not excluding women. Further you will also note that I have commented on your decorum in responding here and how you would be an exception to the"box" you mentioned. We can still shake hands and agree to disagree, no? Be well (and get some rest...what are you doing posting past 3a.m. LOL

[guy incognito]

Sleep done!I see your point ive just gone back over all the post.

[squidd]

just asking

i've noticed that there has been extensive literature on males perpetrating violence on females. but have any of you heard of females being the phycial aggressors.

it's almost a shame to admit it but i have been beaten up by my girlfriend many times. the sad thing is that it is not within me to hit back. i have had a pager thrown at my head, my arms and chest scratched to the point of bleeding and bruised as well, head slammed on the wall, etc.

i know that male violence is very real but to a certain extent there are battered males out there and the ones doing the bettering are the females. i do not think it is as prevalent as male violence though.

[TNT]

i've noticed that there has been extensive literature on males perpetrating violence on females. but have any of you heard of females being the phycial aggressors.

it's almost a shame to admit it but i have been beaten up by my girlfriend many times. the sad thing is that it is not within me to hit back. i have had a pager thrown at my head, my arms and chest scratched to the point of bleeding and bruised as well, head slammed on the wall, etc.

i know that male violence is very real but to a certain extent there are battered males out there and the ones doing the bettering are the females. i do not think it is as prevalent as male violence though.

Squidd,
That's some serious sh**, and she needs some serious counseling to find out why she responds like that, and if you really love her and think she's worth it and she's is earnest in her attmept at self-improvement, then you two should seek couples counseling and find out what it is you can both do to have a healthier relationship. I don't know either one of you but perhaps you maybe doing something to anger her, not that she should be hitting you in response, but she knows or chooses no other way to express herself to you. You both need to learn the skills of communication, of clear expression, and clear understanding. The problem with men and women, and perhaps
society as a whole, is that we may speak the same language but we don't always understand each other. I wish you peace and light, it will be a journey......"ad astera per espera".... a rough road leads to the stars....
Be well.

[mrniceguy148]

it's almost a shame to admit it but i have been beaten up by my girlfriend many times. the sad thing is that it is not within me to hit back. i have had a pager thrown at my head, my arms and chest scratched to the point of bleeding and bruised as well, head slammed on the wall, etc.

Hi squidd,

I’m afraid that something tragic, or near tragic, is going to have to happen before your GF decides to change her behavior. Personally, I’d get out now before something bad happens. I’ve had a similar experience so I know something about this:

For a few years in the 1980’s my wife would hit and scratch me for no reason and I’d just put up with it because she wasn’t doing anything that could seriously hurt me. However, one day I came home from work late and my wife came home a few minutes later and she started bitching at me for not doing some cleaning that I promised her that I’d get around to doing that evening. She got so worked up that she just started kicking me in the lags.

At the time I was dead tired and I was slouching in my easy chair with my feet up on the foot rest. So my wife came over to me and just started bitching at me and kicking me in the legs. I asked her to stop several times but that just made her more angry. Finally, I just snapped! Instinctively, I sprang out of my chair and I just picked up the 5” and 110 pound women and I threw her away. She fell backwards, tripping over my chair and hitting the back of her head hard on the corner of an end table. She was out cold for a minute or more and I was scared to death that I might have fractured her skull or something.

Anyway, when she opened her eyes she said that she was okay. She didn’t want to go to the hospital or anything but she did have a nasty lump on the back of her head. Nevertheless, the thought of what might have happened, just because of some petty bickering, was absolutely terrifying to both of us. That night we had a serious discussion about some of the semi-violent tendencies that she had been showing towards me and we both agreed that it absolutely had to stop!: And to this day it has. However, it took a near fatal disaster to bring my wife around to that way of thinking……….

However, all of this was quite predictable from day one because my wife was raised in a violent family

Understand; we were just lucky! Chances are you won’t be so lucky.

My advice: Get out now, before you’re forced to do something that could land you in jail! And for Christ sake, don’t even think about living with this women -- not under any circumstances!

Best of luck to you, and I hope you do the right thing,

Mr. Niceguy

[squidd]

Anyways squidd i would suggest getting a new gf.

ah... now that's another sotry. i did. and we were together in my car when she found out i did. she was calm for a moment, then made a sudden lunge at the steering wheel will stepping on my foot that was on the accelerator. she tried to smash both of us into a concrete pillar. luckily, i had the presence of mind to shift to neutral so the car rolled along slowly even as the engine roared loudly.

thanks tnt, hand2hand, and niceguy. all this makes me feel like a freak but at least it opens the eyes of people on a reverse paradigm -- that is, women abusing men.

[Tom Yum]

Think about the traits that add up to her psychosis so when you start dating again, you get yellow flags when the traits show up.

Now my advice to you is to start drinking heavily...jj and a good rebound relationship with a bikini model.

You MUST be 21 to consume alcohol! (or 16 in Europe, Mexico and Asia).

[TNT]

okay squidd

okay squidd, that's way, way more serious sh**....DUMP HER! She doesn't need therapy, she needs to be institutionalized! She may have to pull something again for you to get an order of protection against her but if she does man DO NOT hesistate to get one, DO NOT be embarrassed or think you are a "freak" to use your word. It needs to be documented, you do not need her claiming you did something to her in retaliation. I have seen retaliation, it almost cost this guy his life! GET OUT NOW!

[mrniceguy148]

I have seen retaliation, it almost cost this guy his life!

Hi TNT,

What happened? Please share!

[Tom Yum]

okay squidd, that's way, way more serious sh**....DUMP HER! She doesn't need therapy, she needs to be institutionalized! She may have to pull something again for you to get an order of protection against her but if she does man DO NOT hesistate to get one, DO NOT be embarrassed or think you are a "freak" to use your word. It needs to be documented, you do not need her claiming you did something to her in retaliation. I have seen retaliation, it almost cost this guy his life! GET OUT NOW!

Excellent advice, TNT.

Learn to spot and avoid girls with "psycho-eye". Its a term some of my friends came up with.

[TNT]

Or you could just kill her, although you must be careful that you dont leave behind evidence, and talk to the cops without a lawyer, because you would be first on their list of suspects. Which reminds me if you do intend to kill her dont follow the above steps to document that there is a problem.

HANDtoHAND!!!!!!!!!