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Originally posted by jubaji View PostI can't believe some people are still pushing this silly-ass notion that not wanting to go to the ground means you won't end up there, or that if that is where you have the greatest advantage in a given situation you shouldn't take it just in case there's something on the ground.
Nobody said Don't go to the ground just because there may be stuff there as the only reason.
In a real fight not a ring fight there are a plethora of realistic and factual reasons that the ground is not your friend. people have covered them extensively in other threads.
In the Book of Five Rings Musashi advocates not having a favorite weapon, I feel this applies to how you fight as well. You shouldn't have a preference to what you use and how you use it. Fighting is conceptual no matter how you look at it. No one can predict what the opponent will do so you must train to be flexible.
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I can't believe some people are still pushing this silly-ass notion that not wanting to go to the ground means you won't end up there, or that if that is where you have the greatest advantage in a given situation you shouldn't take it just in case there's something on the ground.
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There's no point in arguing it's obvious what the opinion is on the subject. There could be any manner of dangerous debris on the ground.
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The 'broken glass' thing is such a tired, pointless banality that it is a wonder people still drag it out after all this time. And that is leaving aside the great ignorance just bringing it up reveals.
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I like wrestling, but not as a Martial Art. I am not going to be wrestling on the ground with the broken glass; I'm going to be doing everything I can to avoid having to roll around on the ground.
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The wrestling as a martial arts is the good experience which should be tried in life at least one time.
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Wresting is the best type of martial art to make the switch to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. A combination of wrestling and bjj will make you a great ground fighter.
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Wrestling is a martial art." This seems in bold so often all through this publication that I profited the general effect that it was in writing on every page. This is not really the case. What we have here is a publication about wrestling teaching, other than genuine method, applying values Fury selected up in his study of Chinese martial creative pursuits and vocation as a comparable wrestler in high school and college. That’s sixth pattern and university in my neck of the woods.
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Originally posted by GQchris View PostI like Boxing as a Martial Art better.
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Originally posted by GQchris View PostI like Boxing as a Martial Art better.
Boxing works so good... If you are first. You hit the bag in your workouts for 4-5 rounds a session and you are used to it and don't realize your power. Same with the 16 oz mitts and headgear
Then you are in a situ' and have to stop a thug. You land one solid right, and he drops and you are like 'WTF??' 'Thought this was gonna be hard'
Not like in the movies where they never bleed, and bounce back up like spring loaded etc
I am past 60 and still go 3-4 rounds banging the heavy bag after my weightlifting sessions (Just my anti-fat, anti-aging thingy)
Much more fun than a boring treadmill/stair climber etc
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I've wrestled for about 7 years and trained in ju-jitsu, ninpo, and other grappling arts. I think my wrestling has complimented my skills significantly because I can feel confident about taking the situation to the ground and being in control.
Now if I could only break the habit of going to my stomach...
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Alot of real good points here. As a traditional martial artist, I was one of the many who gave little or no respect to wrestling on the whole. I figured knock the guy out call it a day......a year ago I became friends with a fellow student who started to train in Kempo to round out his abilities as a fighter. He has a very strong wrestling background as well as being a certified police instructor for L.O.C.K.U.P.. I've learned so much about ground fighting, positioning and being aware, it's definately had an impact on me. I will post a link to the lockup website if anyone would like to see it. Its not wrestling, but it is definately credible. Wrestling is a martial art, a great weapon to add to any arsenal.
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