Wrestling as martial art

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[Paul Kevin]

Boxing as a mix martial arts

[kingoftheforest]

"Stomp" tends to lead one to using the foot or heal or boot but really any weapon can be multiplied a bit by gravity. Wish I'd see more of stomp on a foot in the so called cage or octagon? Where are all the missed opportunities within the "rules"??? Clinch "this"

LOL

I like to scrap the shin on the way to the foot stomp. It tends to lean the opponent into the head strike thats on its way.

[kingoftheforest]

Or you could just stomp it? In the old Judo kata you can find the influence that certain masters and students of Aikido have given to the Kodokan.

That's "Judo"

extend, twist, stomp.

[kingoftheforest]

Judo is not 'improperly done' when the thrower goes to the ground as well.

I didn't say it was improperly done if the thrower goes to the ground.

[jubaji]

That's true but I'm not a big fan of suicide throws. I've seen Judo properly done and people thrown very hard to the ground..

Judo is not 'improperly done' when the thrower goes to the ground as well.

[kingoftheforest]

Judo throws especially are very likely to involve you going to the ground as well. If you want to throw someone hard enough to hurt them you can't be afraid of the ground yourself.

That's true but I'm not a big fan of suicide throws. I've seen Judo properly done and people thrown very hard to the ground. I agree that some ground fighting in your tool box is an excellent idea. And you shouldn't be afraid if the fight goes to the ground.

However most bipedal species maneuver better in an upright position.

[jubaji]

I tend to favor impact weapons even if that weapon is the deck.

Slamming someone onto the hard ground takes the fight out of a lot of people. Not everyone, but a lot...

[jubaji]

Yep like when you bounce the other guy off it with a Judo throw.

Judo throws especially are very likely to involve you going to the ground as well. If you want to throw someone hard enough to hurt them you can't be afraid of the ground yourself.

[kingoftheforest]

I tend to favor impact weapons even if that weapon is the deck. Things on the ground are also good to smash into. Chairs, tables, other terrain and the dreaded broken glass!

It certainly adds that proverbial third dimension to a standing game, eh?

there's nothing like hitting a guy with the ground.

[kingoftheforest]

As I was saying...

Yep like when you bounce the other guy off it with a Judo throw.

[jubaji]

As I was saying...

[kingoftheforest]

There may be circumstances where the ground IS your best friend.

I agree, when it's under my feet.

[jubaji]

Care to elaborate?

There may be circumstances where the ground IS your best friend.