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  • Paul Kevin
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    Boxing as a mix martial arts

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  • Tant01
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    extend, twist, stomp.
    Ideally the extending and twisting has already made stomping? I'm fond of knee dropping on twisted limbs...ribs... other organs...

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    "Stomp" tends to lead one to using the foot or heal or boot but really any weapon can be multiplied a bit by gravity. Wish I'd see more of stomp on a foot in the so called cage or octagon? Where are all the missed opportunities within the "rules"??? Clinch "this"

    LOL
    I like to scrap the shin on the way to the foot stomp. It tends to lean the opponent into the head strike thats on its way.

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  • Tant01
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    extend, twist, stomp.
    "Stomp" tends to lead one to using the foot or heal or boot but really any weapon can be multiplied a bit by gravity. Wish I'd see more of stomp on a foot in the so called cage or octagon? Where are all the missed opportunities within the "rules"??? Clinch "this"

    LOL

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    Or you could just stomp it? In the old Judo kata you can find the influence that certain masters and students of Aikido have given to the Kodokan.

    That's "Judo"

    extend, twist, stomp.

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  • Tant01
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    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    Judo is not 'improperly done' when the thrower goes to the ground as well.
    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    I didn't say it was improperly done if the thrower goes to the ground.
    Sacrifice throws are desperate attempts at scoring a point in competition. and they can work well. I especially enjoy the illegal for competition joint lock throws and landing on hyper extended limbs. Or you could just stomp it? In the old Judo kata you can find the influence that certain masters and students of Aikido have given to the Kodokan.

    That's "Judo"

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    Judo is not 'improperly done' when the thrower goes to the ground as well.
    I didn't say it was improperly done if the thrower goes to the ground.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    That's true but I'm not a big fan of suicide throws. I've seen Judo properly done and people thrown very hard to the ground..

    Judo is not 'improperly done' when the thrower goes to the ground as well.

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    Judo throws especially are very likely to involve you going to the ground as well. If you want to throw someone hard enough to hurt them you can't be afraid of the ground yourself.
    That's true but I'm not a big fan of suicide throws. I've seen Judo properly done and people thrown very hard to the ground. I agree that some ground fighting in your tool box is an excellent idea. And you shouldn't be afraid if the fight goes to the ground.

    However most bipedal species maneuver better in an upright position.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    I tend to favor impact weapons even if that weapon is the deck.

    Slamming someone onto the hard ground takes the fight out of a lot of people. Not everyone, but a lot...

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    Yep like when you bounce the other guy off it with a Judo throw.
    Judo throws especially are very likely to involve you going to the ground as well. If you want to throw someone hard enough to hurt them you can't be afraid of the ground yourself.

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    I tend to favor impact weapons even if that weapon is the deck. Things on the ground are also good to smash into. Chairs, tables, other terrain and the dreaded broken glass!

    It certainly adds that proverbial third dimension to a standing game, eh?

    there's nothing like hitting a guy with the ground.

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  • Tant01
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    I tend to favor impact weapons even if that weapon is the deck. Things on the ground are also good to smash into. Chairs, tables, other terrain and the dreaded broken glass!

    It certainly adds that proverbial third dimension to a standing game, eh?

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    As I was saying...
    Yep like when you bounce the other guy off it with a Judo throw.

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  • jubaji
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    As I was saying...

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