Did Jesus use cannabis?

[DickHardman]

Caffeine is a legal drug, just like alcohol.

you already admitted you do drugs and are a big hypocrite, no need to admit it again. i heard you the first time.

[slayer31]

the only thing jesus was high on was the holy spirit. boosh.

[Blue Wave Gym]

I find this entire topic

extremely offensive
jesus didn't need to use any drug of medication to heal people he was Jesus and healed people by simply touching them if he needed oil then...... Just think ok, and remeber the time when someo ne behind him touched his garment and was healed

[DickHardman]

extremely offensive
jesus didn't need to use any drug of medication to heal people he was Jesus and healed people by simply touching them if he needed oil then...... Just think ok, and remeber the time when someo ne behind him touched his garment and was healed

i find it offensive that you would assume everyone in the entire world believes that jesus was GOD.

[Sagacious Lu]

i dont agree with this however. shock tactics? the article was on bbc news website bro, if you think the article was a shock tactic then you should take that up with bbc news uk and email them. i was only interested in the validity of these two articles and what other people thought about them. i understand people get so emotional over jesus that they start to think and act irrationally, but that for damn sure doesnt mean i cant ask a question about him.

i understand that nowadays being inquisitive and asking questions is deeply frowned upon and can lead people to despise you and think you are crazy, but i really just wanted to know if the articles were true or not. i bet you didnt even read the articles, since neither of them had anything to do with legalization of marijuana. the reason the policies of our country dont get changed is because of people like you who jump to conclusions based on emotion without even looking at the information provided first.

You're completely missing my point. You're right, I didn't read the article but it wasn't the article that I was commenting on. What I'm saying is that it seems like you go out of your way to present yourself as a pot smoker. It's not that you're just honest about the fact that you smoke, you actually advertise the fact, and I think you thrive on the attention that it gets you. I think you like to feel like people persecute you for being an independent rebel, otherwise why would you trumpet your smoking habits on a martial arts forum? You're not coming off as an independent thinker with radical ideas, you're just making yourself look like a stoner that's infatuated with the drug counter-culture. As far as I'm concerned if you choose to smoke pot then that's your decision and I won't judge you for it, but, at least on this site, you are vocally very childish (and excessive btw) about it and that's why you're getting so much criticism.

[Blue Wave Gym]

first off I didn't assume that

second that's up to them isn't it, third chill out

[DickHardman]

You're completely missing my point. You're right, I didn't read the article but it wasn't the article that I was commenting on. What I'm saying is that it seems like you go out of your way to present yourself as a pot smoker. It's not that you're just honest about the fact that you smoke, you actually advertise the fact, and I think you thrive on the attention that it gets you. I think you like to feel like people persecute you for being an independent rebel, otherwise why would you trumpet your smoking habits on a martial arts forum?

the only attention i recieve from talking about bud is from whiners like you who give it to me. its only a big deal if you make it be one. so dont say i do this and that for attention, and then write posts full of emotion trying to stir up drama. nothing you have posted had anything to do with the article, which is all i really wanted to know about. if religion is too touchy for you, then move on to another thread.

You're not coming off as an independent thinker with radical ideas, you're just making yourself look like a stoner that's infatuated with the drug counter-culture.

independent thinker with radical ideas? did you pull all this out your ass? all i wanted was to know about the articles, seems like you are way more concerned with me and what i do than you should be. seems like you have something personal against me.

As far as I'm concerned if you choose to smoke pot then that's your decision and I won't judge you for it, but, at least on this site, you are vocally very childish (and excessive btw) about it and that's why you're getting so much criticism.

its always funny when people say " oh i wont judge you though" right after they have gone on about how they feel you are childish and desperate for attention. seems like you have judged me, so at least man up and admit it. the only one being excessive is you, you are trying to make comments on a thread about two articles you havent even read. you are simply letting your emotions get the better of you cause i guess jesus or religion is a touchy subject for you, one you cannot discuss in a civil manner.

[Sagacious Lu]

Look I am being civil; believe it or not I was hoping you would take my posts as food for thought. They aren't meant as an attack on you, although I'm not surprised that you choose to take it that way. This has nothing to do with my feelings on religeon at large or Jesus in particular, this is just my response to the way you constantly bring up marijuana. It seems to be one of your favorite topics and you're obviously very confrontational about it; it makes me wonder if you present a pot-head persona to people in the real world.

[DickHardman]

Look I am being civil; believe it or not I was hoping you would take my posts as food for thought. They aren't meant as an attack on you, although I'm not surprised that you choose to take it that way. This has nothing to do with my feelings on religeon at large or Jesus in particular, this is just my response to the way you constantly bring up marijuana. It seems to be one of your favorite topics and you're obviously very confrontational about it; it makes me wonder if you present a pot-head persona to people in the real world.

wow, i didnt know my marijuana use was making life so hard for this guy over the internet. i sure hope you find a way to cope with my fondness of marijuana. i hope you arent experiencing any relationship or family problems because of my posts on defend.net. i hope you can one day fully recover from the trauma some of my posts of have caused you.

no seriously, do you have anything to say about the articles or not? otherwise, please stop trolling my thread.

[Sagacious Lu]

wow, i didnt know my marijuana use was making life so hard for this guy over the internet. i sure hope you find a way to cope with my fondness of marijuana. i hope you arent experiencing any relationship or family problems because of my posts on defend.net. i hope you can one day fully recover from the trauma some of my posts of have caused you.

So much for reading comprehension.

no seriously, do you have anything to say about the articles or not? otherwise, please stop trolling my thread.

Okay, here goes.

The author of the article, published in the US drugs magazine High Times, says his findings are based on a study of scriptural texts.

The fact that it was published in High Times should tell you that the writer,editor and publisher have an agenda. You don't have to look hard to find it:

Mr Bennett said the findings suggested that it was unchristian to persecute people who used cannabis.

"If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient Christian anointing oil, as history indicates, and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ."

I think the guy wrote the whole article just so he could say this. It's just a big convoluted attempt to justify smoking pot. I'm sure it appealed to the readers of High Times, but I doubt anyone that doesn't have a pro-pot agenda is going to take it seriously.

[DickHardman]

The fact that it was published in High Times should tell you that the writer,editor and publisher have an agenda. You don't have to look hard to find it:



I think the guy wrote the whole article just so he could say this. It's just a big convoluted attempt to justify smoking pot. I'm sure it appealed to the readers of High Times, but I doubt anyone that doesn't have a pro-pot agenda is going to take it seriously.

i wonder why bbc would pick it up then. is bbc news pretty unreliable? i too found it odd that high times article would be on a bbc news site, but i didnt want to discredit the article completely just because it was from high times.

[Sagacious Lu]

However, this sort of thing doesn't do anything but reinforce all the negative stereotypes associated with pot smokers. Even if Jesus did use an oil made from the plant all this is going to do is alienate the many of the people who revere Jesus. With this amount of shock tactics like this one it's no wonder that people don't take those of us who would like to change our nation's policies concerning drugs seriously. Just my $.02.

I wrote this before i actually read the article because I was pretty sure that it was going to boil down to some variation of "Jesus did dope so I should be allowed to too" and sure enough that's exactly what the article said. What pisses me off is that evey time people try to have a serious dialogue about how our nation addresses illegal drugs someone will try to use High Times to convince us all that Jesus was a stoner or something equally bizarre. This kind of thing is so far-fetched that you won't ever get main stream America to accept it even if it turned out to be true. All it does is water down the stronger, legitimate arguments for the reform of our drug laws. I think these tactics reinforce the idea that the only people who want to see them changed are drug-addled conspiracy theorists and that in fact they do more harm than good.

[DickHardman]

I wrote this before i actually read the article because I was pretty sure that it was going to boil down to some variation of "Jesus did dope so I should be allowed to too" and sure enough that's exactly what the article said. What pisses me off is that evey time people try to have a serious dialogue about how our nation addresses illegal drugs someone will try to use High Times to convince us all that Jesus was a stoner or something equally bizarre. This kind of thing is so far-fetched that you won't ever get main stream America to accept it even if it turned out to be true. All it does is water down the stronger, legitimate arguments for the reform of our drug laws. I think these tactics reinforce the idea that the only people who want to see them changed are drug-addled conspiracy theorists and that in fact they do more harm than good.

obviously you didnt read the article, even after trying to pretend you did. because neither article claimed that jesus was a stoner. all the articles claimed were that back in jesus time the anointing oil that was used to anoint kings and whatnot contained large amounts of cannabis extract, which some theorize could have been used to heal ailments if it was absorbed through the skin. i dont think either article mentioned that jesus was taking bong rips. so dont be offended, at least until you finally read the article, which im convinced you dont want to do since its clear you had your mind made up the moment you saw the title of the thread. but hey, at least in this post you admit that you are pissed and emotional. read the articles, maybe they will calm you down a bit.

[DickHardman]

f "Jesus did dope so I should be allowed to too"

btw? can you copy and paste where in the article it says that i should be allowed to use marijuana because jesus does? please copy and paste it for me.

[Sagacious Lu]

I was pretty sure that it was going to boil down to some variation of "Jesus did dope so I should be allowed to too"

Quoted directly from the bbc link:

"If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient Christian anointing oil, as history indicates, and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ."

Yeah, I haven't botherd to read it yet I'm supporting my opinion with direct quotes