Senator Obama VS Senator Clinton

[Liberty]

Mike, that's the way I was raised. To try to build and maintain bridges of communication between people before during and after.

As for your reply to my response to jubaji's declarations of Ghost as a racist, I agree with everything you said (especially the part about the dubiousness of other countries caring about us) but for two things: jab's word was "racist," not "poor arguement." Seccondly, a few minutes on the internet will verify Ghost's contention of how Obama is percieved around the globe as a hope for real change as a result of his name, skin color, and the foreign countries he spent his early years in, amongst other qualifications. Obama himself has alluded to as much.

Personally, I understand that. I've travelled some. Whenever I've encountered anyone from my own backyard, more often then not, the result has been instant preferential treatment from them.

Let's face it a commonality between people, which the internet shows people from other countries seem to share with Obama, as to race, name, common struggles, etc., is it's own brand, it's own instant influence amongst most people (not all, but most).

True, this does not speak of the man's qualifications.

And to interject Bruce Lee into it (you know I had to), what was the Green Hornet known as in Hong Kong? "The Kato Show." What was Chinese reaction to "Fists," "We are not sick men?" This guy, with a Chinese-American name, knows our pain. Which he certainly did.

Remember reading of the marketing-propaganda value of the American name, Joe Lewis, around the globe, when he was set to fight Nazi Germany's Max Schmeling in 1936, was it? Jesse Owens, for that matter. How it stirred America to greater greatness.

America temporarily buried what was in it's mind Lewis' and Owens' unforgivable skin color, as Lincoln had done when he finally set in motion freeing slaves (he'd openely declared lesser beings) so as to deplete the South of it's vast free army (slaves) in order to win the war the North was losing.

Point is, America has for decades known the power of racial, religious issues that move both it's citizens and those of the world. Obama has that instantly.

That may be racist on the part of those who go by that, "rather than the content of character," but that does not automatically make someone who has noted these things a racist.

Fact is, a search on the internet reveals that around the globe people feel the man, Obama, might be able to relate to them given the issues he's encountered in America given his name, father's religion, and skin color, along with other qualities he each day shows greater ability at.

Again, that is not enough in my book, but it is a heck of marquee value given how negatively the US is currently viewed by countries it has to deal with.

And why not? Why not let what is still the greatest country on the planet, inspite of it's unresolved issues with race, why not let it rise to even the greater heights Obama may bring it to if he is sincere, if he is the amazingly rapid learner and stratgeist he continues to prove himself to be? If pople around the globe will give America at least a hearing for the man's name, skin color or whatever, I have no problem with that. If that can be a cataylyst for the beginnings of real change what's wrong with that?

[Liberty]

Seems you are still missing the point, you racist shit.

Jubaji, while I generally agree with Brewer's assessment of Obama, I fail to see how you are able to conclude that Ghost, by his remarks on the possible message Senator Obama’s election to the Presidency would send the world, is a racist.

During the Civil Rights Movement, the U.S. while negotiating with various Third World countries was reminded of it’s own unresolved Civil Rights issues each time it promised Democratic solutions to those it was negotiating with. As a result, the U.S., in order to save face was forced to intervene on behalf of the Civil Rights movement with it’s legislative and military might, as a means of proving that yes, America does care about the plight of these people (as hypocritical as that care was).

If you’re implying race is not an issue in this election, I have to strongly but respectfully disagree.

Respectfully, out of something my dad told me before going off to this stupid, wasteful war he never came back from – he said to me that anytime I deal respectfully with others, no matter what level they stoop to, I honor how he and my mom have raised me.

In other words, should you care to explore the race issue, I’d rather we were civil with one another. Towards that end, my apologies in advance if anything I’ve said here has somehow offended you.

[Tom Yum]

Yeah, I ruined the whole italics thing I was going for. I think I need to call Matbla for some tech support!

I thought Matbla worked some kinda kids club?

[DickHardman]

god help us.

[Hardball]

Clinton got 51% of Texas with 99% reporting. Obama got 48%. Apparently Texas has a two step process. They have to count the Texas caucus next.

[Hardball]

i hope Obama wins so some maniac can put a bullet through his skull

same goes for hilary

In our Orwellian society that statement could land you a visit from the Secret Service.

[Hardball]

Senator Clinton makes a comeback, takes Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island.

[jubaji]

Whoa! Don't overdo it!

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

i hope Obama wins so some maniac can put a bullet through his skull

same goes for hilary

[jubaji]

Well, looks like McCain officially wraps it up tonight.

Gonna be a close one on the dem side.

[Hardball]

CORRECTION: Today is not only the primary for Ohio but for Rhode Island, Texas and Vermont also.... After tonight we will know the true picture.

[Hardball]

What are your #'s for Ohio?

[Hardball]

We will know a lot come Tuesday night. The Ohio primary is tuesday and that only leaves Texas for the battle of the delegates.

[Tom Yum]

But a willingness to let others lead is important. As I've already pointed out with Obama's voting record, he's a consolidator of power, not a delegator. He'd try to do it himself, and that's not good. One might say it's exactly the same reason Bush has been so ineffective.

Good point, Mike.

[jubaji]

So you're a racist and an idiot.