how old are you?

[Uke]

Oh? We are so blessed to have your vast experience and opinions here to read...

You're right ... especially when we have JKD authorities like you who tell people that when Lee wrote "formless" he meant not having prearranged forms in the style. Bruce Lee was rolling more than his eyes in his grave when you wrote that nonsense.

Q. What does "formless" mean Uke?


A. there is no KATA (or forms) in JKD.


It's THAT simple.

Its priceless gems like that which serve as comedy relief that give this place its own "little school bus" charm and keep us coming back mostly for laughs.

A-holes like pUke and TTExcrement keep coming back to this board to tell everyone how much they dislike this board. You would think...

We never said we didn't like the site, only the pretenders and nut hugging sycophants like you that loiter it 24/7.

Actually, were it not for the moments when we stop by you'd have what .... 2 new post a day? And 1 of them would be written by knowledge bot!

So yeah ... bang up job with keeping the site to yourself, ju-bark!-ji. You've trolled just enough so that Tim Mousel's articles about boxing news make up 50% of the new daily posts.

Congrats!

Maybe that was the plan all along??? Maybe because some of us have written posts concerning the value of MMA on the streets ... or rather the lack thereof in those conditions ... it wasn't conducive to the sales of the MMA dvd's being sold by "the boss". Hehehe .. either way you dudes are a riot.

Uke, I did wado ryu karate for 7 years and it didn't help me on the street. Then trained in FMA which may be effective for some people but wasn't for me. In fact the FMA (and teeny bit of JKD and silat) and tons of WSD I did did NOT work when I met guys who had trained in MMA or even just boxing/wrestling. The only reason his aikido works is because he has adapted it while training against resisting opponents. ANYthing works if you add it to alive arts like BJJ, Muay Thai or boxing. And this doesn't have anything to do with being "cool" or "agreeing with the board"--if I was interested in that I wouldn't have posted about Obama.

Honestly there is so much I need to work on to improve my own game that I probably wouldn't waste much time on arts that don't work (or that you have to adapt so heavily to get to work.)

Treelizard, it shouldn't have taken you 7 years to realize that the Wado was taking you nowhere. That isn't to say that there aren't any good wado karate instructors out there. Maybe yours just wasn't or was just a cash cow. The first year you should notice a drastic difference in your abilities and if you don't, then that's a clear sign of either low quality or someone forcing you to take baby steps in order to keep you paying longer. Be careful with what you may feel "doesn't work". Most things have their value, and as you grow you find the place thos puzzle pieces fit in. That actually IS what growth is.

All I want to say passed that point treelizard is examine what you "add" and how you go about it. Boxing and Muay Thai are both dueling arts, and if you adopt them as your core art then you will become a dueler or at least adopt dueling habits, meaning someone who sticks and jabs to methodically wear down their opponent. This is the same case with BJJ although it isn't a dueling art, but a wrestling/competition art.

You will eventually go with whatever you wish, but I would definitely consider an system that is tailored for dirty fighting with short, nasty strikes, gouges and stomps. After that you can add whatever compliments you. Just remember that most elements in arts like boxing and muay thai(aside from clinching) knock an opponent away from you and aren't designed to keep them in front of you where you can work from close quarter range. I wouldn't advise trying muay thai type clinching in a real fight either. I would never occupy both my hands while the person I'm fighting has two free one that I have absolutely no control of.

So in the end, I think you should really re-examine the notion that "Anything works if you add it to alive arts like BJJ, Muay Thai or boxing". Anything can work, but it boils down to how long it takes for you to become proficient and how many chances you take in order to just defend yourself. Try adding capoeira or wushu to muay thai and you'll quickly see exactly what I mean. You'll quickly find out that adding anything to muay thai, boxing or BJJ doesn't just work, and those who have made it work took many years to just become functional let alone masterful.

Good luck.

[Ghost]

lol ok but tell me if im too high or too low.

34

Guess. I'll tell you if you get it right.

[jubaji]

Guess. I'll tell you if you get it right.

[Ghost]

jubaji, you didnt tell us how old you are.

[jubaji]

Oh good, maybe now you can explain your favorite code word.

[TTEscrima]

Arf arf, someone let the yappy little mongrel out to sniff butt again.

[jubaji]

A-holes like pUke and TTExcrement keep coming back to this board to tell everyone how much they dislike this board. You would think...

[treelizard]

Uke, I did wado ryu karate for 7 years and it didn't help me on the street. Then trained in FMA which may be effective for some people but wasn't for me. In fact the FMA (and teeny bit of JKD and silat) and tons of WSD I did did NOT work when I met guys who had trained in MMA or even just boxing/wrestling. The only reason his aikido works is because he has adapted it while training against resisting opponents. ANYthing works if you add it to alive arts like BJJ, Muay Thai or boxing. And this doesn't have anything to do with being "cool" or "agreeing with the board"--if I was interested in that I wouldn't have posted about Obama.

Honestly there is so much I need to work on to improve my own game that I probably wouldn't waste much time on arts that don't work (or that you have to adapt so heavily to get to work.)

[Tom Yum]

I gotta tell ya ... its hilarious reading that on this forum. For so long I talked about other forms of jujitsu other than newaza and had to argue for every single post. It seemed that if you wrote about anything other than MMA or BJJ you had to go through battle after battle.

I guess it took the forum becoming so dead that you can see a tumble weed blow by anytime you visit for others to consider that God may not fight in the octagon, and that there might actually be martial arts that are worthwhile learning that were created before Bruce Lee made movies or before a Gracie made an "anything goes" tournament that actually had rules(UFC).

I've seen Roy Dean, and I have to laugh because what he shows is so basic and so rudimentary. And I'm not picking on you Treelizard, but you sound so amazed as if you've discovered aikido that works!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm glad that people are going out or even at least watching Youtube and dvds to see for themselves that things outside of what is considered "cool" on this board at the moment works and works well.

I never thought I'd see the day that someone other than Hardball, TTE, and myself would be talking about aikido. And just so you know, this isn't just about aikido. There are many, many other schools of combat that I have studied and endorse. My point is that there is more out there. I hope you enjoy the dvd's and continue to look outside the box and see for yourself the many great styles out there.

Good luck

I believe that TMA's are certainly note worthy. Why? Because I've seen/studied/observed traditional martial artists who could put there art to work on the street, sometimes in the ring and even more importantly - in the battlefield.

More importantly, I've had my ass handed to me by traditional karate masters, judoka and even from exotic styles like pukulan tjimande. These guys were very skilled, mastered timing and had control beyond belief - and none of them looked anything like the athletic build you see in MMA. Take Paul Vunak for instance (I know, not TMA but not MMA) the man is slender and fit, not the most intimidating in terms of size or strength, but deadly.

Read the recent article about Pelligrini's Modern Hapkido being used by operatives working for USN ONI. As a former traditional Korean MAist, I was glad to see this article.

Here's a few survey-type threads or discussions that I thought were interesting or pertinent to TMA.

Gongfu used in real combat

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/chinese-martial-arts/27110-gong-fu-used-combat.html

Survey of Hwarangdo grappling/weapons

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/korean-martial-arts/23747-hwarangdo-takedown-video.html

Traditional Chinese Martial arts (2007)

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/chinese-martial-arts/25714-traditional-chinese-martial-arts.html

The Martial Arts of India

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/mixed-martial-arts-mma-bjj-forum/24591-martial-arts-india.html

Modern Full-contact Karate

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/japanese-martial-arts/19332-modern-full-contact-karate.html

Revitalization of TMAs (dated may 2005)

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/mixed-martial-arts-mma-bjj-forum/15636-revitalization-tma.html

Boxing & Traditional MAs

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/boxing-discussion-forum/19059-boxing-traditional-mas.html

MMA is certainly not the be all, end all of martial arts. If its served any purpose, its made us rethink what will or will not work in spontaneous, real-time environments. The tactics of the sport itself make for reliable empty-handed self defense for the average joe.

And whatever happend to Chrisdavis? I miss his contributions. As I remember, he was in a career transition and spent some time bouncing. His styles were internal chinese arts, shuajiao and aikido.

[Tant01]

..........forty something...

[Tant01]

Phui...

.....
I never thought I'd see the day that someone other than Hardball, TTE, and myself would be talking about aikido. And just so you know, this isn't just about aikido. There are many, many other schools of combat that I have studied and endorse. My point is that there is more out there. I hope you enjoy the dvd's and continue to look outside the box and see for yourself the many great styles out there.

Good luck

Oh? We are so blessed to have your vast experience and opinions here to read...

[Uke]

Will do. Roy Dean is amazing. He manages to take this aikido stuff which seems completely ineffective and show you how to make it work against resistance. He rocks. I'll post the review soon.

I gotta tell ya ... its hilarious reading that on this forum. For so long I talked about other forms of jujitsu other than newaza and had to argue for every single post. It seemed that if you wrote about anything other than MMA or BJJ you had to go through battle after battle.

I guess it took the forum becoming so dead that you can see a tumble weed blow by anytime you visit for others to consider that God may not fight in the octagon, and that there might actually be martial arts that are worthwhile learning that were created before Bruce Lee made movies or before a Gracie made an "anything goes" tournament that actually had rules(UFC).

I've seen Roy Dean, and I have to laugh because what he shows is so basic and so rudimentary. And I'm not picking on you Treelizard, but you sound so amazed as if you've discovered aikido that works!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm glad that people are going out or even at least watching Youtube and dvds to see for themselves that things outside of what is considered "cool" on this board at the moment works and works well.

I never thought I'd see the day that someone other than Hardball, TTE, and myself would be talking about aikido. And just so you know, this isn't just about aikido. There are many, many other schools of combat that I have studied and endorse. My point is that there is more out there. I hope you enjoy the dvd's and continue to look outside the box and see for yourself the many great styles out there.

Good luck

[Tom Yum]

Didn't Chris Farley & John Belushi use drugs?

[aseepish]

Thirty-three, which means I have to AVOID being like Bruce Lee.

I also have to avoid being like Bon Scott, Sam Cooke, John Belushi, and Chris Farley.

Oh yeah, and that Jesus guy too.

[Tom Yum]

Eleventy-Seventy.