Motivational Posters

[kingoftheforest]

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The fact that you normally ignore this stuff and now instead of smartass comments you do this, proves you're not on your game and it bugs you.

That and the fact that you cried to the mommyrators.

[jubaji]

The problem is when you don't even do real wrestling but the costume stuff than you couldn't possibly understand a fight that doesn't have.

1. Pre fight interview.
2. A script with planned moves and lines.
3. An already determined winner.
4. A shinny belt as the prize.
5. Above all else a ref to cry to because the other guy cheated.

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[kingoftheforest]

LMAO!

Still, that was the very first time that he was actually useful. He knew that I had made an a typing error because I had just stated what I really meant the day before, and he gave me time to correct it. That's completely out of character for him, but then again you and I both know why that side of him is showing, DJForest.

Its because of you and your jubidoo snacks, brother!

Like ZOINKS ya really think so Joob?

HeHe He He He!

[Uke]

The problem is when you don't even do real wrestling but the costume stuff than you couldn't possibly understand a fight that doesn't have.

1. Pre fight interview.
2. A script with planned moves and lines.
3. An already determined winner.
4. A shinny belt as the prize.
5. Above all else a ref to cry to because the other guy cheated.

LMAO!

Still, that was the very first time that he was actually useful. He knew that I had made an a typing error because I had just stated what I really meant the day before, and he gave me time to correct it. That's completely out of character for him, but then again you and I both know why that side of him is showing, DJForest.

Its because of you and your jubidoo snacks, brother!

[kingoftheforest]

Very true. Absolutely true. I have to(and I can't believe this) admit that you caught an error on my part. It should have read:

What's so sad about your general understanding of combat is that you don't realize that if what you practice needs to be made more even then what you practice doesn't work with the same effectiveness outside those manufactured parameters.

When I'm wrong I'm wrong, Dude. Thanks for being civil about it.

The problem is when you don't even do real wrestling but the costume stuff than you couldn't possibly understand a fight that doesn't have.

1. Pre fight interview.
2. A script with planned moves and lines.
3. An already determined winner.
4. A shinny belt as the prize.
5. Above all else a ref to cry to because the other guy cheated.

[Uke]

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[Uke]

So, boxers, wrestlers, muay thai fighters, judoka, etc. never get into fights outside the 'ring', and if they did they would be utterly helpless? Yeah, ok.

Didn't you recently say that you never said anything didn't work?

Very true. Absolutely true. I have to(and I can't believe this) admit that you caught an error on my part. It should have read:

What's so sad about your general understanding of combat is that you don't realize that if what you practice needs to be made more even then what you practice doesn't work with the same effectiveness outside those manufactured parameters.

When I'm wrong I'm wrong, Dude. Thanks for being civil about it.

[jubaji]

you don't realize that if what you practice needs to be made more even then what you practice doesn't work outside those manufactured parameters

So, boxers, wrestlers, muay thai fighters, judoka, etc. never get into fights outside the 'ring', and if they did they would be utterly helpless? Yeah, ok.

Didn't you recently say that you never said anything didn't work?

[jubaji]

Mas Oyama fought over 200 men .

Oh, here come the bull killing stories.

[gregimotis]

Someone photoshop this into a poster:




"Beware of arguing with an idiot on the internet.
Chances are, he's doing the some."

[Uke]

Why do you need to make fights more even?

Mas Oyama fought over 200 men and never required any of them to be a certain height or weight. He fought men from several disciplines including wrestling, boxing, karate, kickboxing, and judo. There were no rounds. He didn't require any rules either. He beat all of them usually in the first minute. That is real. That's fighting without the pads, rules and stipulations that let your so-called sport fighting look like it would work in an all out fight.

What's so sad about your general understanding of combat is that you don't realize that if what you practice needs to be made more even then what you practice doesn't work outside those manufactured parameters, and you've only been strengthening that point with your argument, Ghost. Good going.

And don't try and change what you asked. You asked me what shin and elbow conditioning was. If you don't know because you've never really trained in muay thai. When throwing the "elbow" its the ulna that does the damage, not the actual elbow joint unless your dropping the "elbow" or throwing it to the side or reverse angles.

Throwing an elbow like throwing any strike is honed by repetition hitting and MT is no different. The shin conditioning in MT includes repeatedly striking the shin or rolling over it in an effort to toughen it. The fact that this is news to you exposes you. If you've never heard of makiwara or its concept then you're not worth wasting time on.

End of.

[Ghost]

It's done to make it seem more competitive and give a show for the audience. When someone is much better they should be able to knock out their opponent almost immediately/ Mike Tyson used to do it in almost all of his fights when Cus was still alive. He would completely dominate his competition, and those who lasted longer only did so by jabbing and running. That's what any fight should look like.

Weight classes are just a device used to give a better show. As I said earlier, MMA started off by using no weight classes and those fights ended fast. There was more fighting and less jabbing and feeling each other out. If you think that jabbing and feeling each other out is real combat then you have absolutely no idea about combat. All that was before everyone began using the guard and used whatever original training they had.

How well did Orlando Weit, a muay thai champion, do when he faced a judo champ? He got his ass kicked. How well did Roland Payne, who also was a thaiboxer, do in his fight against a karate man? They were KO'd within minutes. So stop trying to make MT seem like its more formidable than it is. If the way you fight takes 12 rounds to end a bout then its folly to liken it to self defense.



What is a higher level than world championship competition? Weight classes are there so that the matches don't seem like toughman matches where the smaller opponent gets mauled by the bigger opponent.


How are the skill levels any less closely match than in professional boxing and kickboxing? Every professional fighting sport has bums. I can't believe I have to explain this to you.





I have in detail but you just can't seem to grasp it.



I'm not a "thai boxer" but MT techniques are a part of the system I belong to. And if you seriously don't know what shin and forearm conditioning is as it pertains to muay thai then you are pretending to be something that you're clearly not.

when did i say jabing and feeling your opponent out was real combat.

weight classes are there to make the contest more even in the same way youd put HP limits on car races.
end of.

there is no forearm conditioning in MT, end of.

you dont know what you are talking about....
end of.

[kingoftheforest]

Some things are just made for certain people.



Woof woof



Boo...boo

[Tant01]

Gjj/bjj

Jujutsu is the closest transliteration, actually.

But the common MIS-spelling is fairly consistent with the "Brazilian: style of grappling...

[jubaji]

The Brazillians spell it Jiu Jitsu, theJapanese spell it Jujitsu or Ju jitsu or Ju Jit Su.

Jujutsu is the closest transliteration, actually.