Originally posted by Uke
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Wait a minute. Maybe we should all calm down. DJForest, you guys aren't going to convey to me that Tant01 is a solid guy then put all this on his shoulders. That ain't right. This has been happening here waaaaaaay before he got the job.
A month ago I never thought I'd be cool with Tant01 and now everyday he and I seem to be getting along better and better. I have now and honestly most of the time respected his contributions. I refuse to have friction brought on by one whiny troll who has single handed destroyed the quality of this site. We you stop and think about it, it ain't Tant01 or us that cause problems. We just get tired of the bull, he's got a job to do, and for some reason jubaji gets a license to disrupt, insult, spam and plague every thread that has good and consistent dialogue going on.
It was the opinion of you guys that made me reevaluate my feelings and give Tant a chance because he was your friend. And now I'm saying that before we start misplacing anger we should all stop, take a breath and realize that there's only one idiot that FOR YEARS has messed up this place for us. Hell .. I'd take 10 Brewers over just one jubaji, because Brewer at least debated and tried to make his points. Jubaji doesn't even do that much. This is a place to debate, but he's clearly not here for that.
I know something is up. I've said that for years. No one gets a free pass to do what he does and avoids getting banned.
We didn't come here to argue, Tant01. If you go back and look at how we first came here we were all civil. You can go back to the BJJ effectiveness thread and see that I took a massive amount of abuse before I finally had enough. In fact that's where our friction started because you misread and thought I was referring to you.
Enough is enough. I'm not going to ask you to reveal anything that you're not comfortable with, or do anything that you can't. But don't sit there and act like you don't understand what we are saying. Maybe you've never started a thread where people came in to debate and it was going fine and then all of a sudden jubaji shows up and starts calling you asshole and other names ... after a while it gets to be annoying. Then after he successfully destroys any good dialogue and you have to start all over, he does it all over again. That's enough to turn Ghandi into Mike Tyson.
I do understand what you said to me about decorum, but how about demanding it from all parties or at least tell us why you can't? If there's a legit reason for it then we as men just have to suck it up. But no one likes to be bullied. Not in real life or virtually.
A month ago I never thought I'd be cool with Tant01 and now everyday he and I seem to be getting along better and better. I have now and honestly most of the time respected his contributions. I refuse to have friction brought on by one whiny troll who has single handed destroyed the quality of this site. We you stop and think about it, it ain't Tant01 or us that cause problems. We just get tired of the bull, he's got a job to do, and for some reason jubaji gets a license to disrupt, insult, spam and plague every thread that has good and consistent dialogue going on.
It was the opinion of you guys that made me reevaluate my feelings and give Tant a chance because he was your friend. And now I'm saying that before we start misplacing anger we should all stop, take a breath and realize that there's only one idiot that FOR YEARS has messed up this place for us. Hell .. I'd take 10 Brewers over just one jubaji, because Brewer at least debated and tried to make his points. Jubaji doesn't even do that much. This is a place to debate, but he's clearly not here for that.
I know something is up. I've said that for years. No one gets a free pass to do what he does and avoids getting banned.
We didn't come here to argue, Tant01. If you go back and look at how we first came here we were all civil. You can go back to the BJJ effectiveness thread and see that I took a massive amount of abuse before I finally had enough. In fact that's where our friction started because you misread and thought I was referring to you.
Enough is enough. I'm not going to ask you to reveal anything that you're not comfortable with, or do anything that you can't. But don't sit there and act like you don't understand what we are saying. Maybe you've never started a thread where people came in to debate and it was going fine and then all of a sudden jubaji shows up and starts calling you asshole and other names ... after a while it gets to be annoying. Then after he successfully destroys any good dialogue and you have to start all over, he does it all over again. That's enough to turn Ghandi into Mike Tyson.
I do understand what you said to me about decorum, but how about demanding it from all parties or at least tell us why you can't? If there's a legit reason for it then we as men just have to suck it up. But no one likes to be bullied. Not in real life or virtually.

Bite me monkey boy!
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