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    The smartest approach for home protection is what the Police refer to as Target Hardening. Some people have already mentioned some key ideas on here:

    - Have a clear, visible alarm system that is armed and functional
    - Dogs are always a good deterent, not because of their size or their bite, but because of the noise they make
    - Spend a few quid on solid, double locks on all doors and windows, and keep them closed and locked
    - Don't advertise high value goods, like leaving the curtains open on a night with your 60 inch plasma screen on display for all to see
    - Keep a keen awareness of any individuals, groups, vehicles etc that seem to be hovering around your home

    Much like personal self protection, home defence is about prevention. Make your home appear to be a hard target, and let them move onto to a softer one.

    I definitely endorse a dog, and its not about anyone being stopped or bitten by a dog, its about prevention. Once a dog has established its scent in a home, this is his territory. Their natural instinct is to protect that territory, and they will warn anyone unfamiliar who gets too close with loud barks and growls.

    I had a dog for 13 years, and he had the kindest nature I've ever seen, a total softy if you knew him. However at night, if he saw, heard or smelt anyone come close to the house he would bark and growl as loud as he could until they moved on. Sometimes this annoyed the hell out of me, but on at least three occassions when his barking became very aggressive I woke up, switched lights on and saw cars pulling away from the house at speed.

    The best alarm you can have.

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  • Hardball
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    Got off lucky

    They were lucky no one was raped or killed. Those guys were heavily armed.

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  • shaolin-warrior
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    Great post!

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  • Hardball
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    Mac 10 & Dessert Eagle

    Home invasion shatters Pr. George's family's sense of security
    Masked intruders beat man; tie up relatives; take cash, electronics

    By Matt Zapotosky
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, October 22, 2009



    Even though they rented, the Moores considered their Seat Pleasant townhouse their first real home.

    There was a sense of safety and stability inside those walls on Daimler Drive, said Aleta Moore. Her husband, Yaphet Moore, had been raised next door, and he always wanted to bring his family back to the place where he had so many fond memories, she said.

    But just before 1:30 a.m. Wednesday, that sense of security was shattered when three masked men, one armed with what appeared to be a MAC-10 machine pistol and another with a Desert Eagle handgun, kicked in the door, tied up the family and made off with $70, a laptop computer and every family member's cellphone, Aleta Moore and police said.

    The robbers beat Yaphet Moore with a gun and trash can, threatened to kill his son and nephew and then left after holding the family hostage for almost 20 minutes, Aleta Moore said.

    "I was just begging, 'Please, don't hurt anybody. Just take whatever,' " she said. "We just kept telling them we didn't have money."

    Investigators said they did not think that the Moores, who are both group home counselors, were targeted or that they knew the men who robbed them, said Officer Henry Tippett, a spokesman for the Prince George's County police. He said the motive for the attack appeared to be robbery.

    "It didn't look like they were in there for drugs or anything," Tippett said.

    Most everyone in the house was asleep when the robbers kicked in the door, yelling "Police!" as they made their way inside, Aleta Moore and Tippett said.

    Aleta Moore, 34, said that she and her husband, 36, were in one room, that their nephew, 19, and son, 16, were in another and that their cousin, 32, and her daughter, 10, were in a third. She said the robbers kept them separated in those rooms, binding her and her husband with cords and the rest of the family with tape and threatening to kill the children if the adults did not produce valuables.

    "It was like my heart just left my body when I heard him talking about doing something to one of my kids," she said. "I was just praying that they didn't hurt anyone."

    Yaphet Moore began pleading for his family, Aleta Moore said, telling the robbers: "Do whatever to me. Just don't hurt nobody else." At various points, she said, one robber flashed a knife and beat Yaphet Moore with a gun and trash can.

    The men eventually left with the cash and electronic devices, Aleta Moore said. She said that no family member recognized any of the attackers' voices and that the men apparently did not know whom they were dealing with. One of the men incorrectly assumed that her nephew was her son, she said.

    Aleta Moore said her only theory is that the robbers saw the expensive 24-inch rims on her husband's truck and decided to see what was inside the house.

    "We don't do anything. We work hard. We come home," Aleta Moore said.

    Residential robberies have been of particular concern to Prince George's police this year. The county has recorded 119 such incidents to date, compared with 91 at the same time last year.

    Police said there were no particular suspects in the case, only vague descriptions of the two masked men who had the most contact with the Moores. Investigators think the men might have fled in a compact car, Tippett said.

    Aleta Moore said she no longer feels safe in the family's home.

    "This was supposed to be a memorable, exciting time in our marriage and our lives," she said. "They turned that into a nightmare."

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  • Hardball
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    Doggie Bribe-LOL

    Most dogs can be fed or given a treat thus rendering them useless. It's different for professionaly trained dogs.

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  • Ghost
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    i agree with the dog comment, that can really **** up a burglars day.
    perhaps invest in some form of rapid responce alarm system hooked up to the police if you have those things in the states which im pretty sure you must.

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  • Tokyo Kid
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    Originally posted by mellow View Post
    Maybe instead of useless 5th grade toilet humor you could try to have an intelligent discussion. In over a hundred posts you have contributed next to nothing. Congrats, you've made it to the ignore list
    Um, I think you accidentally gave me a green rep there buddy. I can admit my humor is childish. Maybe I should tone it down a bit (but I'm not going to of course, nyah). But you know damn well there is too much moronic nonsense going on in the martial arts, and this place seems to breed more idiot-germs than a loofa sponge. Of course, you can't read this because you're ignoring me.

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  • Garland
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    Originally posted by Hardball View Post
    Here in Baltimore there have been a couple of instances were home invaders dressed up like cops.
    I know some people who were victims of a home invasion where the perps WERE cops.

    The reason this shit is on the upswing has a lot to do with the unemployment rates. Fix the economy and they'll go back down. (by fix the economy, I don't mean give money to the fucking banks!)

    Things you can do... Buy big dogs. Nobody wants a Rotti or a Bloodhound biting them.
    Have a weapon close at hand- plus the training and resolve to use it.
    Be aware walking home and around your home of anyone casing or following you.
    Install an alarm system.
    Look poor on the outside.

    So basically, look poor, have big dogs in the yard...maybe a rusted out car on the lawn, a tall wire fence, an alarm system inside (discrete) and weapons and good training.

    I.e. look like a thug lives there, but not a thug with drugs because that's a good reason to knock you off.
    Last edited by Garland; 10-18-2009, 06:59 PM.

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  • mellow
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    Originally posted by Tokyo Kid View Post
    that was an analogy.

    maybe instead of ethnic jokes I should make jokes about guys with pony-tails who wear tight sweat pants.

    how do you starve a guy who has a pony-tail and wears tight sweat pants to death?

    You watch a youtube video of him doing compliant self defense techniques that he made up himself and invade his home and steal his food because you know from the videos he has no realistic method of defending himself.

    badum-tish.
    Maybe instead of useless 5th grade toilet humor you could try to have an intelligent discussion. In over a hundred posts you have contributed next to nothing. Congrats, you've made it to the ignore list

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Back to the subject at hand

    Originally posted by Hardball View Post
    Seems like it's time to start packing heat. How hard is it to get a pistol permit up there? It's next to impossible here in Maryland unless you are a business owner and handle a lot of cash deposits.
    Find out anything about the permit process there HB?

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  • Tokyo Kid
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    Originally posted by mellow View Post
    that was an analogy.

    maybe instead of ethnic jokes I should make jokes about guys with pony-tails who wear tight sweat pants.

    how do you starve a guy who has a pony-tail and wears tight sweat pants to death?

    You watch a youtube video of him doing compliant self defense techniques that he made up himself and invade his home and steal his food because you know from the videos he has no realistic method of defending himself.

    badum-tish.

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by mellow View Post
    Hmmmmmmmmm

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  • mellow
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    Originally posted by Tokyo Kid View Post
    Really? Are we going to pretend to be offended by jokes about Irish people?

    Oh, and don't make me bring up when you accused me of being gay, broski.

    Try harder. It's a joke. I'm Irish American.
    I thought you were an Arab guy

    http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/u...f-defense.html

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  • Hardball
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    Ccwp

    Seems like it's time to start packing heat. How hard is it to get a pistol permit up there? It's next to impossible here in Maryland unless you are a business owner and handle a lot of cash deposits.

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  • shaolin-warrior
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    Two years ago in Cheshire Ct. (upscale white community) Mom followed home from bank, her and two daughters raped and burned alive dad forced to watch. In my town 3 home invasions in the last month, I beaten to death, the others tied up and robbed. It's crazy. My friend has two big dog bowls on his back porch and no dog.

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