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That sounds interesting the illegal matches. I bet the MT dudes do pretty well if it is unarmed. You could also always go to Brazil to watch no rules matches. They are less common than the ones with rules but they still go on. The Brazil comps. are what got me into mma and the arts that make it up. I am suprised that no mma fighter has looked further into the SE Asian kickboxing style like Yaw Yawn, Lethwei, and Viet Va Dao. Kickboxing arts work well for striking in mma competetions and the ones I mentioned above are among the best kickboxing arts. They also all borrow from MT.There is a bareknuckle tournament in Taiwan that I heard is interesting.
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I don't know, possible.... actually there is also Malaysian version of Muay Thai, it is called Tommoy.... and thais have their own kind of silat called sila.... some say that thai krabi krabong evolved from sila...That sounds interesting the illegal matches. I bet the MT dudes do pretty well if it is unarmed.
I think tommoy looks like old Muay Thai with some silat additions...
Anyway there has been fights between silat practitioners and Muay Thai fighters on both sides of the border for a long time so the nothern malaysians must have adapted their silat to counter their thai opponents....
Yes that is true.... Yaw Yawn, Burmese boxing have all kickboxing and grapling skills..... I've seen vietnamese boxing but don't know if they have grounwork...I am suprised that no mma fighter has looked further into the SE Asian kickboxing style like Yaw Yawn, Lethwei, and Viet Va Dao.Comment
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Even if they do not have grappling they can combine it with something else
They would probaly be used in the UFC if they were not so rare. Its strange how many MT offshoots there are in SE asia.
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Same can be said about wrestling-graplingOriginally posted by CKD, there a quite good systems also in South Asia and Mongolia..... some mongolian wrestler even take part in Sumo competitions (big money)....
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Really? You bring the AK-47 and I'll use an ice pick and lets fight in an Oil Drum. how's that?I don't care what martial arts you do if I have a gun you're fucked.Comment
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I have always said thatOriginally posted by MuayThaiFighter
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i suppose shootfighting would be one of the most effective
as it mixes M/T with BJJ.Comment
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I have done Shootfighting. It is not all the great, its striking is o.k groundfighting is lacking, and no overall strategy. If you look at shootfighting you will notice that most of its champions are bjj stylists, Inoue, that dude that canned Sato, on and on. Of course for enouph money the bjj stylists will list shootfighting as there second style, like inoue, to save shootfighting some grace
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ninjitsu
Yes definantly ninjitsu Most effective style period One opponent or multiple opponents. I noticed that many of the most effective styles were not listed. Why?Comment
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I believe it too is one of the most effective arts.Originally posted by gracilvaComment
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Originally posted by academian
I listed the ones according to my opinion of which are the best and besides there's not enough room to add more then I did.
Ninjitsu one of the most effective!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA,you're kidding right ?
Perhaps back in the days when samurais still existed but now days,there is no way it would be the most effective.You pull a sword,I pull a gun and guess who would be the one that dies.Obviously the ninja guy.
Multiple opponents!!!!!!! now that really makes me laugh.Ya maybe you could kill several opponents on your own if you have guns or grenades on you but without a weapon and using ninjitsu,no offense,but you'd be screwed.
Also that depends exactly how many people you mean when you say multiple opponents. If you mean 2 or 3 at one time then perhaps,but if you're talking about like 4 to 100 guys you're definitely in trouble.
I often hear about martial artists saying they train to be able to take on both single and multiple opponents and I've heard some even say they know from experience that it's possible,well until I see it with my own eyes I won't believe it.It's always easier to claim things when you haven't actually done it yourself but until you've gone through it and can prove it,it means nothing.It is true that many instructors train their students to take on multiple opponents but many of these instructors themselves have never actually fought more then one person on their own in real life so their word means exactly shit.
What some martial artists have to realize is there is a difference between what they seen in martial arts movies or learn in their dojo against multiple attackers and what really works on the street.Even Bruce Lee couldn't take on multiple opponents,he was an actor as simple as that.How he trained in martial arts and how he showed it in his movies are completely different.Comment
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After checking out some of Erik Paulson's and other real shootfighters stuff I would have to agree it is one of the most effective styles. Before all I checked out was Bart Vale who really has just trained in pro-wrestling.Comment
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What was it like before checking out some of Erik Paulson's and other real shootfighters stuff he or she would have to agree it is one of the most effective styles ?What happened after all he or she checked out was Bart Vale who really has just trained in pro-wrestling ?Comment
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I never had trained with him full time. I just checked out his gym a few times, looked at his instructional vids and met other people who trained with him. His stuff seemed very lackluster and I found out that his record was mostly fake matches that he claimed were real. His training came from a bunch of pro-wrestling dudes.Comment
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Would you ever consider doing it?Only just? Do you mind if I tell other people:
said checked out his gym a few times looked at his instructional vids and met other people who trained with him.Where did he get it?Where did he get it?Comment
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