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Japan Admits Dissecting WW II POWs

By Thomas Easton
The Baltimore Sun

Index

Live dissection of American POWs
When and where
How they died
The sentence
MacArthur let the mudrerers go free

UKUOKA, Japan "I could never again wear a white smock," says Dr. Toshio Tono, dressed in a white running jacket at his hospital and recalling events of 50 years ago. "It's because the prisoners thought that we were doctors, since they could see the white smocks, that they didn't struggle. They never dreamed they would be dissected."

The prisoners were eight American airmen, knocked out of the sky over southern Japan during the waning months of World War U, and then torn apart organ by organ while they were still alive.

What occurred here 50 years ago this month, at the anatomy department of Kyushu University, has been largely forgotten in Japan and is virtually unknown in the United States. American prisoners of war were subjected to horrific medical experiments. All of the prisoners died. Most of the physicians and asistants then did their best to hide the evidence of what they had done.

Fukuoka is midway between Hiroshima and Nagasaki, cities that are planning elaborate ceremonies to mark the devastation caused by the United States'dropping the first atomic bombs. But neither Fukuoka nor the university plans to mark its own moment of infamy.

The gruesome experiments performed at the university were variations on research programs Japan conducted in territories it occupied during the war. In the most notorious of these efforts, the Japanese Imperial Army's Unit 731 killed thousands of Chinese and Russians held prisoner in Japanese-occupied Manchuria, in experiments to develop chemical and biological weapons.

Ken Yuasa, now a frail, 70-year-old physician in Tokyo, belonged to a military company stationed just south of Unit 731's base at Harbin, Manchuria. He recalls joining other doctors to watch as a prisoner was shot in the stomach, to give Japanese surgeons practice at extracting bullets.

While the victim was still alive, the doctors also practiced amputations.

"It wasn't just my experience," Yuasa says. "It was done everywhere."

Kyushu University stands out as the only site where Americans were incontrovertibly used in dissections and the only known site where experiments were done in Japan.

http://www.aiipowmia.com/731/vivisection.html

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[BoarSpear]

rotten roots: the us, nazis and the cia
by Preston Peet (ptpeet@cs.com) - May 19, 2001

"He's on our side, and that's all that matters," chuckled Allen Dulles, a US Intelligence officer during the war who later headed the CIA.

"Besides, one need not invite a Gehlen to one's club," wrote the late, great conspiracy researcher Mae Brussell in 1983, quoting Dulles.

A mystery many Americans ponder now at the dawn of a new millennium is how an agency such as the CIA, which purports to work for the furthering of Truth, Justice and the American Way, could have gone so far astray. Or has it gone astray at all?

On Wednesday, September 20, 2000, the CIA admitted for the first time that it had connections to Reinhard Gehlen (1902-1979), Adolf Hitler's Eastern Intelligence Chief during World War II.

This admission comes over fifty-five years after Gehlen first surrendered to an American Counter Intelligence-Corps Team (May 28, 1945). Just months prior, in March, Gehlen and his henchmen transferred all of their documents onto microfilm, and buried the cache in metal drums in the Austrian Alps. Gehlen demanded an audience with American officials, and got it, arriving at Washington National Airport (August 24, 1945).

Gehlen quickly came to an agreement with his erstwhile captors: All his agents, documents, and his prodigious connections would be at the service of the Americans. In exchange, Gehlen would not be prosecuted for war crimes. Gehlen capitalized upon Western Industrialists' fears of Communism and the Soviet threat, deluding the Western powers, supposedly, into believing that the Soviets were massing to attack, greatly outnumbering the US and British forces after the crumbling fall of the Third Reich.

Setting up shop back in Central Germany in the Spessert Mountains, and supported by the newly formed CIA, the Gehlen Org began shunting anti-Soviet intelligence back to US spooks, until becoming incorporated openly into the Bonn Government as the official intelligence organization (Bundesnachrichtendiest) when West Germany gained its sovereignty in 1955.

This friendship and cooperation between US and Nazi officials has been well documented by numerous respected authors, notably Alexander Cockburn's Whiteout: The CIA, Drugs and the Press (New York: Verso Press, 1998) and Christopher Simpson's Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Effects on the Cold War (London: Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1988).

Through the author and researcher Carl Oglesby's efforts, whilst seeking information from classified US Intelligence material, the CIA was forced to finally admit in print that this connection was true. Citing the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act (1998), the CIA filed a brief in Oglesby's current FOIA appeal in US District Court, ironically citing a commitment to "conform to the spirit of the disclosure Act" according to a release of the US National Archives.

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this doesnt count as running a CIA op?

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Allen Dulles, the Nazis, and the CIA



Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg once stated that "The Dulles brothers were traitors." Some historians believe that Allen Dulles became head of the newly formed CIA in large part to cover up his treasonous behavior and that of his clients.

-- Christian Dewar, Making a Killing


Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man. He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life. In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy." They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis. In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell."

-- Michael Hasty, Paranoid Shift

http://www.enter.net/~torve/trogholm/secret/rightroots/dulles.html

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CIA admits employing Nazis
Klaus Barbie
Klaus Barbie: Used by the CIA as an intelligence source
Files released by the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States have confirmed that World War II Nazi war criminals were employed by Western intelligence agencies.

However, the files dispel the widespread view that one of Hitler's closest allies, Gestapo chief Henrich Muller, survived World War II and went on to work for the CIA.


As a body, the real winners of the Cold War were Nazi criminals, many of whom were able to escape justice

Eli Rosenbaum, Justice Department
They show that Muller died in 1945, but that other former Nazi officers were employed by the CIA, in particular for their knowledge of the Soviet Union.

A US Justice Department spokesman, Eli Rosenbaum, said the files demonstrated that the real winners of the Cold War were Nazi war criminals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1301306.stm

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CIA files disclose Nazis on U.S. payroll

SHARON SAMBER

Jewish Telegraphic Agency

WASHINGTON -- Newly declassified CIA files provide an inside glimpse of the extent to which U.S. intelligence officials relied on suspected Nazi war criminals for information about the Soviets after World War II.

According to the files, some of the Nazis on the CIA's payroll lived the high life after the war, apparently profiting from stolen Jewish property.

Perhaps the most famous Nazi on the U.S. intelligence payroll was Klaus Barbie, a Gestapo officer known as the "Butcher of Lyon" for ordering the murder of French Jewish children during the war.

Among the files' other findings was that Gestapo head Heinrich Mueller likely died at the end of World War II, and never worked for the CIA, contradicting earlier assumptions.

Nearly 10,000 pages were made available to the public last Friday under the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act of 1998, but historians were quick to note that many questions will linger until the files are analyzed.

The files focus on 20 Nazi figures, including Adolf Hitler and Adolf Eichmann.

Included in the Hitler file was a document involving an informant who said in January 1937 that he had talked with a surgeon who had observed Hitler. According to the informant, the surgeon believed Hitler was "a border case between genius and insanity," and potentially could become "the craziest criminal the world ever saw."

In April 1937, the doctor told the informant that Hitler had begun to swing toward insanity and that Germany therefore was doomed, the documents say.

Austrian officials claimed that the documents prove that Kurt Waldheim, the former U.N. secretary-general and Austrian president, was not guilty of Nazi-era war crimes.

But an official from the U.S. Justice Department's Nazi-hunting unit, Eli Rosenbaum, said the files only showed that Waldheim had not worked for the U.S. intelligence community after the war. Waldheim may have worked for Soviet intelligence, Rosenbaum added.

The Waldheim file shows the United States suspected that Waldheim had been compromised by the Soviet Union, but nevertheless did not ask for a CIA background check when Waldheim ran for U.N. secretary-general in 1971.

After Waldheim's Nazi past was discovered -- he served during World War II in a Nazi army unit linked to atrocities against civilians in the Balkans -- the United States put Waldheim on its "watch list" of undesirable aliens in 1987.

The newly released documents indicate that the Office of Strategic Services, the CIA's wartime predecessor, was determined to identify and track down Nazis. After the war, however, many of those same Nazis were employed by U.S. intelligence to help spy on the Soviets.

At the same time, other Nazis were hired by the Soviet Union to spy on the United States.

Of the 20 Nazis who were the focus of the files, Rosenbaum said, at least six were used by U.S. intelligence, six by Soviet intelligence and five by the CIA-dominated Gehlen Organization, the West German intelligence bureau set up by a former Hitler general, Reinhard Gehlen.

"These documents show the real winners of the Cold War were Nazi war criminals," Rosenbaum said.

The Nazis were able to escape justice because the United States and Soviet Union were too focused on challenging each other in the postwar period, Rosenbaum said. U.S. officials "lost their will to pursue Nazi perpetrators, and even deemed some of the criminals to be useful in conducting Cold War intelligence operations," he said.

In recent years, U.S. intelligence officials have been forced to admit that they used Nazi war criminals as informants at the dawn of the Cold War, an approach that was "a horrendous mistake," according to historian Richard Breitman, who directed research of the CIA files.

Declassifying the files could help prevent future atrocities because democracy is strengthened when its "dirty linen" is exposed, said former U.S. Rep. Elizabeth Holtzman, a member of the Nazi War Crimes and Japanese Imperial Government Interagency Working Group, which worked to open the files.

Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) started a crusade in 1994 to declassify U.S. intelligence documents on the Holocaust and America's postwar dealings with ex-Nazis.

Maloney was spurred to action after the U.S. government refused to open documents relating to Waldheim, who had hid his Nazi past for decades.

For more JTA stories, go to http://www.jta.org

http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010504/usp23a.shtml

Tell me how this didnt happen again?????

[BoarSpear]

still think youre 3 and 0? i proved your lies on claiming you didnt say Israel was planning on nuking iran...now i proved the NAZI and unit 731 connections...do you really want me to light you up with the KGB ties as well? or do you wanna admit you were WRONG....see i dont like calling people liars but since you started this trend....now i wasnt lying or twisting facts...but it appears you were huh? remember now....DENY....EVADE....COUNTER ACCUSE.

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there isnt really a point to my debateing with you, you ignore anything you dont want to address, pick wording apart and deny....

for instance i said ties to the KGB...you said i said the KGB runs the body of the CIA....games thats all youre doing, playing the games with words the military taught you to play in pyops school.

you ignored supreme ct justice quotes i provided about Nazis and the CIA...you ignored the BND that we financed and ran...with a top nazi in charge. Things you cant deny, you evade....then guess what you do? you attack me

perhaps you missed this the first time? you know the proof I was right? The stuff you chose to ignore (evade)......."On Wednesday, September 20, 2000, the CIA admitted for the first time that it had connections to Reinhard Gehlen (1902-1979), Adolf Hitler's Eastern Intelligence Chief during World War II.


This admission comes over fifty-five years after Gehlen first surrendered to an American Counter Intelligence-Corps Team (May 28, 1945). Just months prior, in March, Gehlen and his henchmen transferred all of their documents onto microfilm, and buried the cache in metal drums in the Austrian Alps. Gehlen demanded an audience with American officials, and got it, arriving at Washington National Airport (August 24, 1945).

Gehlen quickly came to an agreement with his erstwhile captors: All his agents, documents, and his prodigious connections would be at the service of the Americans. In exchange, Gehlen would not be prosecuted for war crimes. Gehlen capitalized upon Western Industrialists' fears of Communism and the Soviet threat, deluding the Western powers, supposedly, into believing that the Soviets were massing to attack, greatly outnumbering the US and British forces after the crumbling fall of the Third Reich.

Setting up shop back in Central Germany in the Spessert Mountains, and supported by the newly formed CIA, the Gehlen Org began shunting anti-Soviet intelligence back to US spooks, until becoming incorporated openly into the Bonn Government as the official intelligence organization (Bundesnachrichtendiest) when West Germany gained its sovereignty in 1955.

This friendship and cooperation between US and Nazi officials has been well documented by numerous respected authors, notably Alexander Cockburn's Whiteout: The CIA, Drugs and the Press (New York: Verso Press, 1998) and Christopher Simpson's Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Effects on the Cold War (London: Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1988). "

you still havent addressed the Nazi's....but you sure are in a hurry to change the subject

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I'll let your own words speak for me here. Maybe you'll recognize these quotes. You may even remember typing them....



Are you sure you only said "they had ties with?" It looks an awful lot like you said



I mean, I may really be reaching here to get that you said the Gestapo and KGB were running our intelligence agencies when what you really said was:



I can see where you might remember saying:



And how it might be construed as me twisting your words, but I could swear what I read the first time was:



As I recall (and as anyone who wants to scroll back will plainly see), you said:



and then I disputed it and told you to prove it. Shortly after that, you changed your tune to:



Now go ahead. Accuse me of twisting your words. Call ME the liar here, Boar. OR, just man up and admit that your mouth got away from your brain and you didn't bother to think before you typed, and that you didn't bother to do a lick of research before putting up such nonsense. And when you're done there, try going back and addressing the issues you dodged outright while you were substituting this crap as a diversion. I'm playing games with words. That's rich.

lets see the conversation all began when i replied to garland with this...

we also absorbed many top Nazi intelligence people into what became the CIA

then i relpied to garland with this....

So when we went to war with the Nazis, then we formed our own CIA with the remnanants of the Gestapo....doesnt that mean our intelligence agency sees through Nazi "shaded" glasses? If we go to war with the worst people on the planet and then absorb all their nastiest scum what does that make us?

So we have adopted Gestapo people, Japanese unit 731, and Soviet KGB personel into the ranks our intelligence service i guess that explains all the secret prisons and torture allegations we keep hearing about...and we all know what great secret police the Gestapo and KGB were...boy i feel so much safer with those guys running our intelligence agencies

yes i said "running" you and i both know what running an operation or project means...i was speaking in general terms and i assumed, to adults...excuse me.... from now on i wont assume that...that way there wont be any more questions....if you didnt see i had established the pattern that we absorbed nazis into the CIA then they continued to run their thier research/spying under our umbrella of protection....sorry i didnt make it perfectly clear....however even with your attempted screaming hijack to avoid admitting i am still right...even with your wanting to say running as in "head of the agency" ....i gave you klause Barbie and Gehlen.....they both RAN CIA fronted intelligence operations in foriegn countries with CIA ties and financing...how is that not running a CIA project? So either way you wanna play the word game top NAZIS WERE absorbed into the early CIA and did FOUND satellite organizations under the CIA umbrella....



remember this? what is this the third time i have posted it? you keep on ignoring it ....

"In West Germany, Dulles hired Hitlers' master spy Reinhart Gehlen to revive the SS spy agency as the Gehlen Org., which became West Germanys' spy agency BND. Dulles gave Gehlen $200 million in US taxdollars over 10 years to rehire thousands of Nazi SS and GESTAPO veterans, allowing the Nazis to organise underground networks called ODESSA and DIE SPINNE (the spider). These networks created The RATLINE, an escape route to Argentina for thousands of Nazi war criminals sought by Israel, Russia, France etc.. These included notorious Nazis like Adolph Eichmann, Joseph Mengele, Otto Skorzeny, Walther Rauff and Klaus Barbie, who worked for the CIA-BND as advisers to the dictators of Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay and Bolivia, running torture centers, death squads and cocaine rings.
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HOW THE HELL IS THE NOT RUNNING A CIA OP??????? Names of TOP nazis and the CIA/BND ops they SET UP and RAN have been posted over and over ....you BS it say yeah we deal with those people thats what we do...but NO MIKE they RAN the BND....go ahead make me laugh, tell me it wasnt a CIA op. .....why did we give the NAZI SS and GESTAPO their jobs back? to spy on russian interest in germany.....right? so we gave them 20 million dollars to set up a german BND office to spy on the russians, but thats not a CIA project to spy on RUSSIAN interest? ....this is the exact thing i said you keep on doing...you deny ...evade (ignore the evidence i posted backing up the statement) and accuse me of lying and twisting words when its you ignoring facts you cant handle, and attacking me...

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to sum this up, you will never admit the truth....so you prefer to attack the messenger....connections with? We gave him IMMUNITY for his crimes and set him up spying on the russians for us....thats running a operation....one that covers a whole country mind you.....I didnt bother with the russians ....because you wont admit the clear evidence on the nazis...so why bother with the KGB?

i dont need to debate fact with you....supreme CT Justices have admitted it happened but you cant.....you have hang ups bud

im through with the whole nonsense....i stand by the statement any way you wanna play it....we absorbed top nazis into the CIA...they helped set up our agency....fed us our info on the soviets in germany through the CIA/BND which was founded and RAN by gehlen after we gave him immunity and 20 million dollars...thats running our intelligence agencies bud...BND was a satellite CIA op and Gehlin RAN it.

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Heck, you can even keep jumping back to your catch phrases and talking about my old job in the Army (which you likely don't know anything solid about anyhow - the Navy doesn't have a Psychological Operations Corps.

Oh yeah, one other thing, you keep acting like you arent twisting the truth, or since you like the word so much...LYING....you worked in ARMY psyops...you know damn well the Navy has them as well, because we work hand in hand... you were uh.... not telling the truth intentionally, hoping i wouldnt address it, because i was to busy chasing all your other denials and accusations....

you were attempting to discredit me....just another example of your games dude....

"Navy

The lead Navy PSYOP organization is the Naval Network Warfare Command (NETWARCOM) and the Naval Information Operations Command (NIOC), both located in Norfolk, VA. Navy PSYOP assets included shortwave and very high frequency (VHF) radio broadcast from surface ships and leaflet/handbill reproduction. Handbills are distributed to merchant ships during inspection. Leaflets are dropped utilizing the PDU-5B dispenser unit (aka Leaflet Bomb). The Navy works closely with the Army in planning and designing of PSYOP products."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psyops

HMMMM yeah, who isnt believable? i posted evidence of Nazi's running CIA ops you denied it...you then lie and claim the navy doesnt have pyops so i wouldnt know about them to recognize your game....yeah nice job of totally proving my point...i post evidence to back up my claims yet you call me a liar.....that would be the accuse part right after the deny and evade you've been doing .....

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semantics and bullshit Mike....Gehlin RAN the CIA project...program...office...section any goddamn thing you wanna call it.....THE BND was a direct result of CIA action...the united states gave gehlin immunity in exchange for his experience in RUNNING spy ops.....he spied on the soviet interest for the us through the CIA set up and funded BND.....

you go on and try to wiggle out of the difference in the Psyops you said the navy didnt have...you will discuss ANYTHING that isnt the NAZI RUN intelligence agency called BND that was set up by our CIA wont you? EVASION AND DENIAL....


I was never wrong....you go on and deny history

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funny thing here dude.....
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Bundesnachrichtendienst
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The Bundesnachrichtendienst (Federal Intelligence Service, BND) is the foreign intelligence agency of the German government, with roles roughly equivalent to the CIA, the NSA, and to the counterintelligence branch of the FBI. It is headquartered in Pullach near Munich, and in Berlin. The domestic secret service counterpart of the BND is the Verfassungsschutz.


Structure of the BND

The Bundesnachrichtendienst is divided into 8 branches, with different operational intelligence tasks.

1. Operative Aufklärung / Human Intelligence
2. Technische Aufklärung / Signals Intelligence
3. Auswertung / Analysis
4. Steuerung und zentrale Dienstleistung / Administration
5. Organisierte Kriminalität & Internationaler Terrorismus / Organized Crime & International Terrorism
6. Technische Unterstützung / Technical Support
7. Schule des BND / BND School
8. Sicherheit / Security & Defense



Presidents of the BND

The head of the Bundesnachrichtendienst is its President. The following persons have held this office since 1956:

* 1956 - 1968: Reinhard Gehlen
* 1968 - 1978: Gerhard Wessel
* 1979 - 1983: Dr. Klaus Kinkel
* 1983 - 1985: Eberhard Blum
* August 1985: Heribert Hellenbroich
* 1985 - 1990: Hans-Georg Wieck
* 1990 - 1996: Konrad Porzner
* 1996 - 1998: Hansjörg Geiger
* 1998 - 2005: Dr. August Hanning
* 2005 - today: Ernst Uhrlau

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesnachrichtendienst

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The HEAD OF THE BND AND ITS FOUNDER WAS.... Gehlen.... HMMM they called him the president...I would say he RAN the freakin thing then wouldnt you?........anymore bullshit you wanna deny??

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This is from global securitys web site......

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/world/germany/bnd-history.htm

BND History

In April 1956 control of the Gehlen Organization to the newly-sovereign West German Federal Republic as the BND. Gehlen directed the BND until 1968, when he was succeeded by General Gerhard Wessel, a specialist on Soviet affairs and organizations.
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The CIA and Nazi War Criminals

National Security Archive Posts Secret CIA History
Released Under Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 146

Edited by Tamara Feinstein

February 4, 2005


Washington D.C., February 4, 2005 - Today the National Security Archive posted the CIA's secret documentary history of the U.S government's relationship with General Reinhard Gehlen, the German army's intelligence chief for the Eastern Front during World War II. At the end of the war, Gehlen established a close relationship with the U.S. and successfully maintained his intelligence network (it ultimately became the West German BND) even though he employed numerous former Nazis and known war criminals. The use of Gehlen's group, according to the CIA history, Forging an Intelligence Partnership: CIA and the Origins of the BND, 1945-49, was a "double edged sword" that "boosted the Warsaw Pact's propaganda efforts" and "suffered devastating penetrations by the KGB." [See Volume 1: Introduction, p. xxix]

The declassified "SECRET RelGER" two-volume history was compiled by CIA historian Kevin Ruffner and presented in 1999 by CIA Deputy Director for Operations Jack Downing to the German intelligence service (Bundesnachrichtendienst) in remembrance of "the new and close ties" formed during post-war Germany to mark the fiftieth year of CIA-West German cooperation. This history was declassified in 2002 as a result of the work of The Nazi War Crimes and Japanese Imperial Government Records Interagency Working Group (IWG) and contains 97 key documents from various agencies.

This posting comes in the wake of public grievances lodged by members of the IWG that the CIA has not fully complied with the mandate of the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act and is continuing to withhold hundreds of thousands of pages of documentation related to their work. (Note 1) In interviews with the New York Times, three public members of the IWG said:

* "I think that the CIA has defied the law, and in so doing has also trivialized the Holocaust, thumbed its nose at the survivors of the Holocaust and also at the Americans who gave their lives in the effort to defeat the Nazis in World War II." - Former congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman

* "I can only say that the posture the CIA has taken differs from all the other agencies that have been involved, and that's not a position we can accept." - Washington lawyer Richard Ben-Veniste

* "Too much has been secret for too long. The CIA has not complied with the statute." - Former federal prosecutor Thomas H. Baer

The IWG was established in January 11, 1999 and has overseen the declassification of about eight million pages of documents from multiple government agencies. Its mandate expires at the end of March 2005.

The documentation unearthed by the IWG reveals extensive relationships between former Nazi war criminals and American intelligence organizations, including the CIA. For example, current records show that at least five associates of the notorious Nazi Adolf Eichmann worked for the CIA, 23 other Nazis were approached by the CIA for recruitment, and at least 100 officers within the Gehlen organization were former SD or Gestapo officers. (Note 2)

The IWG enlisted the help of key academic scholars to consult during the declassification process, and these historians released their own interpretation of the declassified material last May (2004) in a publication called US Intelligence and the Nazis. The introduction to this book emphasizes the dilemma of using former Nazis as assets:

"The notion that they [CIA, Army Counterintelligence Corp, Gehlen organization] employed only a few bad apples will not stand up to the new documentation. Some American intelligence officials could not or did not want to see how many German intelligence officials, SS officers, police, or non-German collaborators with the Nazis were compromised or incriminated by their past service… Hindsight allows us to see that American use of actual or alleged war criminals was a blunder in several respects…there was no compelling reason to begin the postwar era with the assistance of some of those associated with the worst crimes of the war. Lack of sufficient attention to history-and, on a personal level, to character and morality-established a bad precedent, especially for new intelligence agencies. It also brought into intelligence organizations men and women previously incapable of distinguishing between their political/ideological beliefs and reality. As a result, such individuals could not and did not deliver good intelligence. Finally, because their new, professed 'democratic convictions' were at best insecure and their pasts could be used against them (some could be blackmailed), these recruits represented a potential security problem." (Note 3)

The Gehlen organization profiled in the newly posted CIA history represents one of the most telling examples of these pitfalls. Timothy Naftali, a University of Virginia professor and consulting historian to the IWG who focused heavily on the declassified CIA material, highlighted the problems posed by our relationship with Gehlen: "Reinhard Gehlen was able to use U.S. funds to create a large intelligence bureaucracy that not only undermined the Western critique of the Soviet Union by protecting and promoting war criminals but also was arguably the least effective and secure in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. As many in U.S. intelligence in the late 1940s had feared would happen, the Gehlen Organization proved to be the back door by which the Soviets penetrated the Western alliance." (Note 4)

The documents annexed in the CIA history posted today by the Archive echo the observations of Professor Naftali. While placing much of the blame on the Army Counterintelligence Corps' initial approach to Gehlen, this history emphasizes the CIA's own reluctance to adopt responsibility for Gehlen's organization, yet the documents show the CIA ultimately embracing Gehlen.

Some of the highlights from this secret CIA documentary history include:

* A May 1, 1952 report detailing how Gehlen and his network were initially approached by U.S. army intelligence. (Document 6)

* Two evaluations of the Gehlen operation from October 16 and 17, 1946, advising against the transfer of Gehlen's organization to CIG hands and questioning the value of the operation as a whole. (Documents 21 and 22)

* A March 19, 1948 memorandum from Richard Helms, noting Army pressure for the CIA to assume sponsorship of the Gehlen organization, and continued concern over the security problems inherent in the operation. (Document 59)

* A December 17, 1948 report outlining the problems with the Gehlen organization, but ultimately recommending CIA assumption of the project. (Document 72)

In answer to the question "Can we learn from history?", the IWG's consulting historians noted "The real question is not whether we will make use of our past to deal with the present, but rather how well we will do so. To do it well, we need these documents." (Note 5)

"This secret CIA history is full of documents we never would have seen under the Freedom of Information Act, because Congress in 1984 gave the CIA an exemption for its 'operational' files, on the grounds that such files were too sensitive ever to be released," commented Thomas Blanton, director of the National Security Archive. "The Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act has proven this assumption false. Release of these files has done no damage to national security, has provided information of enormous public interest and historical importance, and however belatedly, has brought a measure of accountability to government operations at variance with mainstream American values."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/

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Gen. Reinhard Gehlen persuaded the U.S. Army and then the CIA to sponsor his intelligence network even though he employed numerous former Nazis and known war criminals.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/cia_and_nazi_war_criminals.htm

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Washington D.C., February 4, 2005 - Today the National Security Archive posted the CIA's secret documentary history of the U.S government's relationship with General Reinhard Gehlen, the German army's intelligence chief for the Eastern Front during World War II. At the end of the war, Gehlen established a close relationship with the U.S. and successfully maintained his intelligence network (it ultimately became the West German BND) even though he employed numerous former Nazis and known war criminals. The use of Gehlen's group, according to the CIA history, Forging an Intelligence Partnership: CIA and the Origins of the BND, 1945-49, was a "double edged sword" that "boosted the Warsaw Pact's propaganda efforts" and "suffered devastating penetrations by the KGB."

http://www.eyespymag.com/The%20CIA%20and%20Nazi%20War%20Criminals.htm

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February 5, 2005
National Security Archive

The CIA was given immunity from the Freedom of Information Act but investigations by Nazi war crimes researchers has revealed "extensive" links between top Nazi war criminals and the CIA which secretly worked with members of the German Gestapo and members of Adolph Eichmann's staff. The findings were reported by the National Security Archive.

http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/know/read.php?itemid=2342

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[BoarSpear]

Farewell America

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Spies



I never had any thought . . . when I set up the CIA, that it would be injected into peacetime cloak-and-dagger operations. Some of the complications and embarrassment that I think we have experienced are in a part attributable to the fact that this quiet intelligence arm of the President has been so removed from its intended role . . .

HARRY TRUMAN

The CIA celebrated its twentieth anniversary in September 1967. It was created on September 8, 1947, by the same law that instituted a unified Defense Department and established the National Security Council.(6) Its mission was the coordination and evaluation of intelligence information, but it immediately branched out into special operations, which took on such importance that the Plans Division was organized in 1961 to plan and carry them out.(7) In 1949 a law was passed exempting the CIA from disclosing its activities, the names and official titles of its personnel, their salaries, and the number of persons it employed. The Director of the CIA was authorized to spend his entire budget(8) on the strength of his signature, without ever having to account for the way in which it was spent.

This provision enabled the CIA to become, during the Fifties, a sort of "invisible government" which expanded its authority when Allen Welsh Dulles became Assistant Director in 1951, then Director on February 10, 1953.(9) Six months later, in August 1953, the CIA proved to the world just how powerful it had become when General Fazollah Zahedi replaced Mossadegh as Prime Minister of Iran. In 1951, Mossadegh had nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company and confiscated the Abadan refinery with the support of Tudeh, the Iranian Communist Party. The CIA succeeded in having Mossadegh arrested, and the leaders of Tudeh were executed. A consortium of the major oil companies thereby signed a 25-year agreement with Iran granting 40% of the shares in the former Anglo-Iranian to Standard Oil of New Jersey, Gulf Oil, Standard Oil of California, Socony Mobil and Texaco. A few months later, in April 1955, nine other independent American companies were given a share in the operations. The CIA man who directed the operation was Kermit Roosevelt,(10) a State Department consultant for Middle Eastern and Communist affairs since 1947. When "Kim" Roosevelt left the CIA in 1958, he was hired by Gulf Oil as its "director for governmental relations." He became vice-president of Gulf in 1960. (He is also a consultant for Socony Mobil.)

Its Iranian success consolidated the power of the CIA, which in the years that followed multiplied its interventions and carried off some brilliant operations, the best-known of which took place in Guatemala and behind the Iron Curtain, where the CIA attempted to split up the Communist Bloc. It was the West German intelligence service, a step-child of the CIA, that set off the East German revolt of June 17, 1953, that was checked by Soviet intervention and caused 2,000 dead or wounded in East Berlin alone. In 1956, the CIA was behind the Hungarian uprising, which proved even more costly to the Hungarian people.

The CIA established several intelligence rings in the USSR and multiplied its special missions. Between 1956 and 1960, its U2 spy planes furnished valuable intelligence on airfields, the locations of planes and missiles, rocket experiments, special ammunitions dumps, submarine production and atomic installations.(11) In Egypt the CIA, under the cover of Ambassador Jefferson Caffrey, who was acting on instructions from John Foster Dulles, played an important role in the 1952 overthrow of King Farouk and the seizure of power by Colonel Neguib, and later in the latter's overthrow by Colonel Nasser.

In 1954, the CIA overthrew the Guatemalan regime of President Jacob Arbenz Guzman because of his "Communist leanings," and replaced him with one of their puppets, Colonel Castillo-Armas, who immediately denied illiterates (who made up 70% of the population) the right to vote and returned to Frutera(12) the 225,000 acres of land that President Arbenz had confiscated. One million acres which had already been distributed to the peasants were taken back, and a committee was created to fight communism in the country.(13)

The CIA also suffered failures -- in Indonesia against Sukarno in 1958, in Laos with Phoumi in 1960, in South Vietnam with Ngo Diem between 1956 and 1963,(14) or partial successes, as in West Germany.(15)

Nor did the CIA confine its activities to the hotspots of the world -- the Middle East, Southeast Asia, the Central and Latin American "protectorates," and the Iron Curtain countries. The CIA was naturally strongly established in the socialist countries such as Yugoslavia, and in neutral states like Austria and Switzerland, but it was also active, for economic and political reasons, in zones of international tension throughout the world. In some cases, for example in Algeria, these reasons were directly opposed.(16) In 1955, the CIA intervened in Costa Rica, one of the most stable and democratic of the Latin American nations, where it tried to overthrow the moderate socialist government of President Jose Figueres.

Thus, endowed with complete autonomy, a virtually unlimited budget, and a de facto co-directorship under the Eisenhower administration, the CIA in the period between 1953 and 1960 developed into a world power.(17) The CIA was represented in 108 different countries, commanded submarines and jet planes, and controlled 30,000 agents under the cover of diplomatic, commercial, industrial, journalistic, military, technical, labor, university and secret activities.


The CIA had infiltrated all the international organizations of which the United States was a member, even UNESCO and the FAO, and its agents operated in all the NATO centers in Europe. In 1961 the CIA was represented in every country in the world, even Iceland (where it had 28 agents and two offices, one at the US Embassy at Reyjkavik and the other at the military base at Keplavik), Uganda, Surinam, the Ryukyu Islands, and Sierra Leone. Photographs and reports from its agents poured in from all over the world to Langley,(20) where they were analyzed by photo-interpretation experts and fed into Walnut, the CIA's electronic computer.

http://www.jfk-online.com/farewell15.html

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HEHEHE apparently the BND stepchild of the CIA was headed by Gehlin...gee where have i heard his name before Oh yeah, he was a top NAZI !! i knew that name was familiar....

[BoarSpear]

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/536364.html

Last Update: 05/02/2005 19:57
Documents reveal CIA recruited five of Eichmann's associates
By Yossi Melman, Haaretz Correspondent

Five of Adolph Eichmann's Nazi assistants were recruited and employed by the Central Intelligence Agency after World War II, according to recently declassified intelligence documents.

The information came to light after a lengthy battle waged by the non-profit group, The National Security Archive, whose goal is to expose government documents under the framework of the Freedom of Information Act.

The newly-revealed documents are based on internal investigations in the CIA's history department. The agency has steadfastly refused to make the documents public for fear they would cause embarassment.

The revelations cast a negative light not only on American intelligence activity but also the U.S. Army's conduct in Germany at the conclusion of the war. The military made efforts to recruit members of the SS and the Gestapo into its ranks despite simultaenously waging a campaign of de-Nazification over vanquished Germany, a process which included arresting and trying Nazi war criminals.

The documents also reveal in great detail CIA efforts to recruit Reinhard Gehlen, who was the Wermacht's chief intelligence officer for the eastern front during the war.

The recruitment evolved into a new intelligence sub-organization known as "Gehlen's Organization," which served as the basis for what would later become West Germany's foreign intelligence service, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND).

According to the new findings, Gehlen's Organization employed a number of Gestapo and SS officials. Gehlen and his senior associates secretly operated out of a building with the knowledge of the American occupation forces.

http://newsmine.org/archive/cabal-elite/secret-society/cia/documents-reveal-cia-recruited-5-eichmann-associates.txt

[BoarSpear]

, I've recently discovered you're even using the boards themselves to ignore ALL statements made by people you don't want to hear from. You just block them out altogether! Afraid of more than one person pointing out how full of it your statements are?

BWAHAHAHA YES MR MODERATOR .... I AM USING THE SUPPLIED IGNORE FEATURE TO IGNORE ONE PERSON....JUBAJI....IS THAT YOUR BIG BACK UP? JUBAJI YES i HAVE HIM ON IGNORE....IF HE IS YOUR BACK UP, AGAIN, THAT OUGHT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

YOU HAVENT ADMITTED THE NAZI RUN BND THAT WAS A CIA FINANCED ORGANIZATION.
you still deny the pages of proof....all you wanna do deny evade and accuse...that proves you aint got shit except a hard head.

you can spin all the shit you want. i said top nazis ran our intell agencies...and i proved it...you just dont wanna admit it...gee i wonder why?

[BoarSpear]

Okay, lets see ....I PROVED THE BND/CIA and gehlin connection...now enjoy oddessa.....ODESSA
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See Odessa (disambiguation) for other uses of the word "Odessa".

ODESSA (German Organisation der ehemaligen SS-Angehörigen; "The Organization of Former SS-Members") was an alleged Nazi-German fugitive network set up towards the end of World War II by a group of SS officers, among whom were Martin Bormann and Heinrich Himmler. This group's purpose was to establish and facilitate a secret escape route out of Germany to South America and the Middle East for hunted members. With alleged ties to Argentina, Egypt, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, and the Vatican, ODESSA ostensibly operated out of Buenos Aires and helped Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Erich Priebke, Aribert Heim and many other war criminals find refuge in Latin America and the Middle East.

SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny and Sturmbannführer Alfred Naujocks were both believed to have been active in this organization, but these suppositions have never been proved. Similarly, General Reinhard Gehlen's entire intelligence organisation that was employed and protected by US intelligence within a few months of the end of the war (and which subsequently became an important part of NATO intelligence in eastern Europe), came under suspicion.

Breathing new life into the recurring speculations about ODESSA, a note purportedly coming from the organization claimed responsibility for the 9 July 1979 car bombing in France aimed at anti-Nazi activists Serge and Beate Klarsfeld.

In November 2005, Spanish newspaper El Mundo reported that Mauthausen concentration camp's Nazi doctor Aribert Heim, protected by ODESSA, had possibly been hiding in Spain for the past 20 years. According to sources from the Simon Wiesenthal Center quoted by El Mundo [1], former soldiers of Otto Skorzeny (who died in an accident in Madrid in 1975) had helped maintain the organization in Spain, especially in the region around Malaga and Alicante.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA

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Although the ink had barely dried on the Yalta agreements, which required the United States to give the Soviets any captured German officers who had been involved in "eastern area activities," Gehlen was soon transferred to Fort Hunt, Virginia. There, he dined with U.S. officials whose appetite for Cold War scuttlebutt was growing voracious. The flop-eared German general played their psyches like piano keys, with a seductive anti-Soviet pitch that left competing elements of the U.S. espionage establishment vying for his services.

During his 10 months at Fort Hunt, Gehlen presented a professional image, the pure technician who liked nothing better than to immerse himself in maps, flow-charts and statistics. The persona he projected was, in espionage parlance, a "legend" -- one that hinged on Gehlen's false claim that he was never really a Nazi. He just was dedicated to fighting communism. Among those who took the bait was future CIA director, Allen Dulles, who became one of Gehlen's biggest post-war boosters.

With a mandate to continue gathering information in the East just as he had been doing for Hitler, Gehlen re-established his spy organization, initially under U.S. Army supervision. The Gehlen "Org," as it was called, enlisted thousands of Gestapo, Wehrmacht and SS veterans despite Gehlen's promise to U.S. officials that he would not employ hard-core Nazis.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/story41.html

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ODESSA



ODESSA (German: Organisation der ehemaligen SS-Angehörigen; "The Organization of Former SS-Members") was an alleged Nazi fugitive network set up towards the end of World War II by a group of SS officers. With alleged ties to Germany, Switzerland, Italy and the Vatican, ODESSA allegedly operated out of Buenos Aires and helped Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Erich Priebke and many other war criminals find refuge in Latin America.

SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny was believed to have been active in this organization, but this supposition has never been proved. Similarly, General Reinhard Gehlen's entire intelligence organisation that was employed and protected by US Intelligence within a few months of the end of the war, has come under suspicion.

http://www.bigpedia.com/encyclopedia/ODESSA

[BoarSpear]

And now the Gehlen organisation

Organization Gehlen

The Gehlen Organization is a post-war agency, and the predecessor of the BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst).

Major General Reinhard Gehlen headed the Foreign Armies East section of the Abwehr, directed towards the Soviet Union. Gehlen had begun planning his surrender to the United States at least as early as the fall of 1944. In early March 1945 a group of Gehlen's senior officers microfilmed their holdings on the USSR. They packed the film in steel drums and buried it throughout the Austrian Alps. On 22 May 1945 Gehlen and his top aides surrendered to an American Counter-intelligence Corps [CIC] team.

After the War, the United States recognized that it did not have an intelligence capability directed against the Soviet Union, a wartime ally. Gehlen negotiated an agreement with the United States which allowed his operation to continue in existence despite post-war de-nazification programs. The group, including his immediate staff of about 350 agents, was known as the Gehlen Organization. Reconstituted as a functioning espionage network under U.S. control, it became CIA's eyes and ears in Eastern Europe and in the Soviet Union.

Hundreds of German army and SS officers were released from internment camps to join Gehlen's headquarters in the Spessart Mountains in central Germany. When the staff grew to 3,000, the Bureau Gehlen moved to a twenty-five-acre compound near Pullach, south of Munich, operating under the innocent name of the South German Industrial Development Organization. In the early fifties it was estimated that the organization employed up to 4,000 intelligence specialists in Germany, mainly former army and SS officers, and that more than 4,000 V-men (undercover agents) were active throughout the Soviet-bloc countries.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/germany/intro/gehlen.htm

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Gehlen, the Nazi, and the CIA



General Gehlen had been the Nazi head of intelligence in the Soviet Union. In May 1945, he surrendered, along with his archives, to the U.S. He was presented to Major-General Luther Sibert, head of intelligence for General Bradley's armies. At Sibert's request, Gehlen the Nazi wrote a 129-page report. Thereafter, Gehlen `developed his great scheme of a secret organisation engaged on intelligence work against the Soviet Union under American aegis.'

http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/node142.html

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HMMMM id say Gehlen ran the Gehlen org which became the BND...the BND worked under american intelligence aegis......Looks like top nazis ran our intelligence agency tasked within dealing with soviet union...our biggest enemy at the time....huh Mike?.......