Cop goes crazy video

[SamuraiGuy]

Yep, Everyone is an angel except the cops.

Look at some of the videos you posted, like the one of the guy getting arrested for the **** Bush sign he had.

The cops were calm, cool and collected, and as they were doing their job, or what they thought was part of their job (I'm not sure who was right and who was wrong). They had those people following them obstructing them shouting profanities at them. Do you really think thats neccessary? Do you think they make a good case for themselves, as people and as people who should be respected because they are intelligent. They just make themselves look like fools.

Or in the skateboarder one, where the guy hits the cop or security gaurd or whoever with a skateboard and KILLS him. You condone that Garland? Whats wrong with you.

It's easy to find a bunch of videos that put cops in a bad light, and proclaim they are the worst people in the world and not look at the other side of the issue. But who do you think you are? Michael Moore?

Do you want me to go find a video of a guy getting beat down by four regular people, and say, man if there were more cops society would be better. Do you want me to find a video where someone gets shot in an armed robbery. If only there were more cops. What about the video's you see all the time on TV. Cops pulling over and arresting criminals for having Crack, or whatever in their car. How bout domestic violence... yep we sure dont need cops to go over and help a women getting beat down by her husband. Cops are dicks, lets get rid of them.

Your stereotyping a huge group of well respected (and for good reason) individuals. Would you badmouth the American troops in Iraq in open like this? Would you say the American Troops should be executed? Would you say the American Troops are worse than Saddam Hussein and his troops which commit heinous crimes. (See your statement cops are worse than criminals). Let me tell you a little secret, the cops are the ones fighting the war for you in America, a far more important war than one so very far away in the desert I would imagine.

I'd also like to add have you ever been a LEO, or been put in those types of situations. I'm not usually one to give people excuses such as these, but the cops may be psycologically damaged from their job.

It may not be Traumatic stress disorder... but rather low levels of Trauma inflicted everyday.

How would you feel if everyday you woke up, knowing you were going out, risking your life, to defend people so they can bash you on the internet. Find a few bad examples and make you look like a monster. Everyday they see the worst of society, drug dealers, rapists, crackwhores, murderers, they defend themselves and others against these people. They go to the scenes of the traffic accidents where a mother of two is lying on the road, with her guts spilling out. You dont think this is gonna **** with your mind. You don't think things like this happening everyday is gonna mess with you. You dont think one day you might lose a bit of control?

You must be fucking Jesus then.

I don't condone what the cops in these videos have done (I didnt watch them all though), but you have to look at it from a different perspective, not just a cop hating one.

People will see a mother who beats her child and say, "well she was beaten as a child so that may have been a major cause of this" but if they see a cop smack some fucking drug dealer, "YOU SIR ARE A BASTARD, THAT MAN HAS RIGHTS, SO WHAT IF YOU'VE SEEN 30 INNOCENTS KILLED BY DRUG DEALERS IN THE PAST YEAR! THAT COULDNT AFFECT YOU AT ALL!"

[BoarSpear]

People will see a mother who beats her child and say, "well she was beaten as a child so that may have been a major cause of this" but if they see a cop smack some fucking drug dealer, "YOU SIR ARE A BASTARD, THAT MAN HAS RIGHTS, SO WHAT IF YOU'VE SEEN 30 INNOCENTS KILLED BY DRUG DEALERS IN THE PAST YEAR! THAT COULDNT AFFECT YOU AT ALL!"

Tow truck drivers, EMTS and ER people see those same car wreck victims too, can they go out and take their bad day out on others? Do they get a gun and a badge and more stressed out friends to help? Do they get to FRAME people for felonies for pissing off bad tow truck drivers? NO.... the people with the right to kill you or fill out reports that lock you away from your family should be held to a higher standard. Much higher!

[Garland]

Yep, Everyone is an angel except the cops.

Look at some of the videos you posted, like the one of the guy getting arrested for the **** Bush sign he had.

Do you really think thats neccessary? Do you think they make a good case for themselves, as people and as people who should be respected because they are intelligent. They just make themselves look like fools.

Or in the skateboarder one, where the guy hits the cop or security gaurd or whoever with a skateboard and KILLS him. You condone that Garland? Whats wrong with you.

Cops pulling over and arresting criminals for having Crack, or whatever in their car.

Your stereotyping a huge group of well respected (and for good reason) individuals. Would you badmouth the American troops in Iraq in open like this?

(See your statement cops are worse than criminals). Let me tell you a little secret, the cops are the ones fighting the war for you in America, a far more important war than one so very far away in the desert I would imagine.

I'd also like to add have you ever been a LEO, or been put in those types of situations. I'm not usually one to give people excuses such as these, but the cops may be psycologically damaged from their job.

You dont think this is gonna **** with your mind. You don't think things like this happening everyday is gonna mess with you. You dont think one day you might lose a bit of control? You must be fucking Jesus then.

"YOU SIR ARE A BASTARD, THAT MAN HAS RIGHTS, SO WHAT IF YOU'VE SEEN 30 INNOCENTS KILLED BY DRUG DEALERS IN THE PAST YEAR! THAT COULDNT AFFECT YOU AT ALL!"

Allright, finally someone comes out and has the decency to discuss my opinion with me instead of taking potshots at me without saying anything.

I never implied that "everyone is an angel except the cops"...you need to settle down. It seems as if you've MADE my arguement into a generalization about how all cops are shit...I never made that arguement...if you look back you'll see that I clearly state that COPS THAT ABUSE THEIR POWERS AND THEIR STATION, VIOLATING THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE AND THE COMMUNITY, are less than shit. I stand by that arguement...and I will until the day that I die.

Two...the guy with the Bush sign had a right to wriggle about, the cops never told him WHY he was being arrested, and he was asking calmly. I agree that the taunting of the cops was pretty fucking dumb, but I also think the cops refusing to be filmed as well as refusing to at least briefly discuss the situation to the crowd was also erroneous.

Third...no, I don't condone murder over something like that. (read the notes on the video...the man wasn't killed, the person who posted the video simply claimed that). I do condone self defense, and I DO condone violent measures to protect OUR rights, liberties and freedoms. (that's WHY I support the TROOPS!) If somebody in a unique position of authority decides to abuse their power to bully you, or flips out...I'm saying people should look at the situation, not the office of the individual. If a police officer (and yes, there are asshole police officers, believe it or not) raped your daughter, you'd expect him to come to justice, right??? WRONG, the prosecuters will most likely soften everything because they don't want to hurt one of their own.
My friend was raped by a cop.
He abused his position of power to coerce her into going in the car with him, drug her to his house, and waited for her drunk ass to pass out so he could rape her. She was 17 at the time. Cops are inherently good and just doing their jobs...oh yeah, they're the creme de la creme...
That cop deserves to be executed...and I hope he runs afoul of somebody who'll put him in a shallow grave.

Also...I don't give a **** if the police pull over drug addicts. I think the whole war on drugs is bullshit. Making them illicit is what makes them dangerous, because it creates an underground market for them, with high risk and high monetary gains. The war on drugs is a fucking wasted effort. Drugs are illegal, yes...but you will always be able to get them, because people don't care about the laws, they'll do what they want anyway.

I wasn't stereotyping a whole group, AGAIN, as I stated in my original posts;
COPS THAT ABUSE THEIR POWERS AND THEIR STATION, VIOLATING THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE AND THE COMMUNITY, are less than shit.
and FYI, yeah...I support the troops, I don't support the war in Iraq. I won't badmouth the troops, because they're doing what they think is right and that intent and effort is commendable and praiseworthy, the politicians behind the war, on the other hand, are assholes, because they stand to gain a great deal of money from the whole thing...that's going into their own goddamned pockets.

Police are Fighting a war for me? For ME? Really? How so? Keeping drug dealers off the streets (I'm against the war on drugs)...so, um, no...

Keeping abuse out of the homes (yeah, and how many women or children actually fess up, usually the fucker is out within a month)

Um....rapists-go to jail for less than a heavy possession charge, so I'd rather fucking lynch the asshole then call the cops.

What else...robbers, oh yeah...and murderers...get caught how many times??? Your odds are already stacked against you...and more often then not, the police are apathetic to your plight.

I've never been an LEO, but YES I have been put in those types of situations. I have had guns pressed against me, I have seen my friends stabbed, I have had people OD on me...I have had to give rescue measures to my pals and/or those surrounding me at an event more than once. And, yeah, I have beaten the shit out of somebody who tried to rape a friend of mine...and I still have a few other fuckers to sort out when I see them too.
If a COP has PTSD or problems psychologically, he should be given leave, and stripped of his responsibilities...otherwise he is a dangerous liability.

Drug dealers kill 30 people...okay...who do they kill??? um...rival drug dealers? gang members? maybe one or two innocent people that get struck with a stray bullet. Not nearly as bad as you make it out to be. Drug dealers are buisnessmen, not sadists or thrill killers. They do what they can to protect their interests and investments, and even though most of them are trash, you can find a good drug dealer now and then.
The ratio's probably the same of cordial drug dealers to shit cops...not as rare as you'd think.

[stabbychick]

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[bigred389]

There are lots of cops, and it differs considering their background, upbrining, etc.

Podunk USA cops have a very different life from say...the LAPD. Let's face the facts, as a whole, we're better off WITH cops than without them altogether, even if you take the bad cops in the mix.

[BoarSpear]

There are lots of cops, and it differs considering their background, upbrining, etc.

Podunk USA cops have a very different life from say...the LAPD. Let's face the facts, as a whole, we're better off WITH cops than without them altogether, even if you take the bad cops in the mix.

What are you more likely to have happen in your normal life, a mugging? a murder? or a cop hassling you because he can? Never had a cop help me once...seen them TRY to **** me over several times...never seen them help a friend, seen them beat of a few of them for the hell of it though...maybe you're safer with others "protecting" you....it isnt about having cops dude its about the sheer number of bad ones...

[SamuraiGuy]

First of all Boar, you took one of the many things that a cop would see, and said why dont the EMTS, tow truck drivers, etc... get all screwed up. Because its not the one thing, seeing car accidents, its all of the things I listed that add up to psychological problems. And I'm not saying that what they do is good, or justifiable, just understandable.

And Garland, I wasnt referring to drug dealer's shooting and beating each other, I'm referring to the lives they ruin through drugs. I know its all up to the individual to make their own choices, but how many lives do the drug dealers ruin to make a profit. Poor people addicted to crack killing people for money, theres more crime generated by drugs, I sure hope there will be a cop around to pull the crack addict off the person walking home at night. Usually I have no tolerance for people that do illegal drugs, because if they **** themselves and their life over its their own fault. In many situations though, its part of your life and your culture, you dont think many poor people would be better off if suddenly all the drugs in the world dissapeared and they couldnt use them to escape, I do.

(Btw, so I cant be construed as a hypocrite, I've never used ANY illegal drugs EVER, I'm like the pope).

You think they should just end the war on drugs, well I somewhat agree with this point and disagree at the same time. In canada they want to legalize Marijuana, do I think this is a good idea, yeah I do, government would have alot more revenue cause they could tax the shit out of it, it would cause alot less stupid "crime" and save money (going to court for possession, getting pulled over and searched for carrying Marijuana, etc...) and also I feel it would be alot safer if people could buy their Weed, from a standardized place, (kinda like liquor) and know that its not gonna get you hooked on crack, or its laced with PCP.

And while you say "I just think the bad cops are bad" and that you arent against cops in general... well you can't have it that way. Thats like someone taking up the side of an argument in Iraq and being like "well I think the war is good, but only if they kill Iraqi soldiers, and only the one's who did it because they wanted to do horrible things, and not the ones who were forced to do it or die, they cant kill civilians, or friendly fire, or hurt anyone, or destroy anything, just get rid of the few bad ones"

It just doesnt work like that... in any system your going to have flaws (except BJJ right, lmao). Seriously though, as one person said it, do you think its better to have no cops, than some bad cops? Your going to find people with loose morales, greed, or abuse of power in any station in life. The people who run charities but really siphon off some of the money and take it for themselves would be an example. Does that mean we should outlaw charities because one or two people are dicks?

I know you see the problem is that the cops have too much power, or too many rights, but we grant them the rights because its necessary for our society. If a select number of people want to abuse those rights then theres not much we can do to stop it, it would be nice if we could stop it, but sometimes we cant. There are people in all stations in life that will abuse their power. It's just a fact of life. It'd be nice if we could be against "the bad cops, or the bad doctors, or the bad charity runners, or the bad librarians" but we cant have it that way, we have to accept their will be some bad with the good. Hold the cops to a higher standard, we do hold the cops to a higher standard, just as we hold doctors to a higher standard. People will still abuse their power, and still find ways to get away with it.

You dont throw away the whole bushel of apples because you found one bad one though. And thats the point.

By the way, I didnt neg rep you at any time. (Or neg rep anyone for that matter)

[bigred389]

What are you more likely to have happen in your normal life, a mugging? a murder? or a cop hassling you because he can? Never had a cop help me once...seen them TRY to **** me over several times...never seen them help a friend, seen them beat of a few of them for the hell of it though...maybe you're safer with others "protecting" you....it isnt about having cops dude its about the sheer number of bad ones...

I don't know...it's I just look at New Orleans after the hurricane hit, when the cops(including the bad ones) were basically neutralized as an effective force, and people started to just loot.
I expect that if all the cops suddenly just up and disappeared, you'd have a lot more crime...and the hardened criminals, the people who really would kill 10 babies for a buck, would then be back loose on the streets. Gangs would pretty much dominate then, without any authority to keep them down.

Just my opinion...I'd rather not be caught in the middle of open gang warfare again. It's not that I don't see your point, I just think if you got rid of cops altogether, we'd be even more screwed.
In other words, I wouldn't count on them if I was under immediate threat. Cops take forever to respond...I know that firsthand. But I believe that by being around they reduce the probability of my being threatened on any given day.

And I think it also depends on where you live, the way your local police operates...I only deal with the NYPD. They pretty much have to leave everyone alone unless #### really goes bad as they don't have the manpower to deal with the little things like jaywalking my friends from smaller downs have been hassled with.
And yeah, I have heard from friends in Pensacola that the cops in Florida are obnoxious @holes.

[BoarSpear]

Nice post red Good points also. I often come off like Its the job i'm pissed at, it isnt. Nor is it simply limited to the government or military or LEOs they all draw from the population!! The general population has been PC and namby pambied into a CYA mode...Anyone with 20 yrs experience in Law enforcement or the military will tell you the standards went down not up, sure they get people who have average intelligence, but they have below average social skills and below average problem solving skills...The people who could do the job and stay honest dont get hired because they WILL rock the boat and that isnt what police chiefs and mayors and governors want....Know and old cop? Ask him...

[Garland]

Because its not the one thing, seeing car accidents, its all of the things I listed that add up to psychological problems. And I'm not saying that what they do is good, or justifiable, just understandable.

And Garland, I wasnt referring to drug dealer's shooting and beating each other, I'm referring to the lives they ruin through drugs. I know its all up to the individual to make their own choices, but how many lives do the drug dealers ruin to make a profit. Poor people addicted to crack killing people for money, theres more crime generated by drugs.

You dont think many poor people would be better off if suddenly all the drugs in the world dissapeared and they couldnt use them to escape, I do.


In canada they want to legalize Marijuana, and also I feel it would be alot safer if people could buy their Weed, from a standardized place, and know that its not gonna get you hooked on crack.

And while you say "I just think the bad cops are bad" and that you arent against cops in general... well you can't have it that way.

I know you see the problem is that the cops have too much power, or too many rights, but we grant them the rights because its necessary for our society. If a select number of people want to abuse those rights then theres not much we can do to stop it

If you can understand why a cop would rape my friend because of work related psychological trauma...please fucking indulge me.

Most of my close friends have ruined their lives with drugs...and to this day I refuse to blame a drug dealer, I blame their own stupid asses. Not for doing it, because I would be a hypocrite...but for continuing to do it, and using it with the intent to escape from their lives.

Not everyone does drugs in that manner, and there are people I know that have fairly well controlled habits. Even the escapism is a valid fucking choice...especially for those less privelged.

NEVER, EVER, EVER will you get addicted to FUCKING CRACK for smoking WEED. You are obviously grossly misinformed about the topic. This is like talking to somebody who's only had absitenence only sex ed. about lubricants and contraceptives. (fyi...water based lubricants are safer than oil based with the use of a condom, because the oil based ones can cause the latex to fail.)

WHY THE FVCK CAN'T I HAVE IT THAT WAY??? I sure can, in fact, I'm goddamned entitled to my civil liberties, and since this is not a police state, and marshall law is not in effect...YEAH, I can. Asshole cops should be stripped of their office and held accountable for their actions...if the court system doesn't do it, then it needs to be changed. (like Robspierre shit)

Read the second fucking ammendment...we're SUPPOSED to stop it! And no...they're not entitled to more rights than us, they're just expected to maintain order, protect and serve...not bully, abuse, and manipulate.

[Thai Bri]

I'm a cop.

Now who's going to lead a chorus of "For he's a jolly good fellow"?

[BoarSpear]

I'm a cop.

Now who's going to lead a chorus of "For he's a jolly good fellow"?

For he's a jolly good fellow...and also a old fellow you're also one of my favorite cops, mostly because youre in another country

[jubaji]

What are you more likely to have happen in your normal life, a mugging? a murder? or a cop hassling you because he can? ...

Oh, what a surprise that a loser like you would have a problem with any and every form of authority.

The sad, insecure, 'hideout in the mountains with freeze-dried rations to last 50 years until the black helicopters go away' see a threat in every structure and authority that they fear so much even while their freedom to mouth off is largely a product of the work of people, a majority of whom are more selfless and committed than worthless snipes like you, whom you feel so free to denigrate and write off as a group.

[Garland]

I'm a cop.

Now who's going to lead a chorus of "For he's a jolly good fellow"?

I have no problem with the occupation, and I do have friends that are/were cops (oddly enough, I tend to make friends easier with ex cops...I've met three this year, and they're part of the select group of people that I'll actually talk to.)

A cop from LA
A cop from WV
and a few Utah cops whom I think are not only great cops, but absolutely outstanding human beings...
unfortunately...I've also had some nightmarish experiences with police officers.

I'm saying that police officers should be held to higher standards than regular citizens, and those that grossly and blatantly abuse their powers and their authority should be held accountable...which is unrealistic given the workings of the US justice system.

[Thai Bri]

We are very very accountable over here in the UK. So much so that some officers will let offenders get their own way for fear of being complained about.

It looks like neither country yet has the balance right.