Cop goes crazy video

[cam427]

After your comments I tried to go back and look at your statements but there did not seem to be any points worth refuting (again). I will try anyway (but I am not sure why). I am not surprised you got rep points because you are agreeing with Boar and he and his little admiration society (I believe it is his wife and some other family member) always stick together in these arguments (which I guess is a good thing). I also got neg rep points and I assume it was from either you or them (more likely you as Boar would have had the balls to tell me first).

Ok big guy... so this means they don't have to do thier job? I've never heard of an area where 20 cops get killed in a year... maybe a whole city(and it'd have to be LA or NewYork due to that amazingly ridiculous number). I mean it IS a livathanesque number. I don't think their fearing for their life that much lol.

I accept that the statistic I quoted was wrong but it was a very small part of a very long post. The general point of the statistic was that cops are in more danger in some areas than others and I do not think that you can refute this.

Really... that's the reason, huh... after extensive research and case studies you've come up with this. Very nice statement, too bad it can't be backed up. Trust me, there are ways of making people talk, on top of the fact that their are plenty that will talk! You think people who believe in "stop snitchin" are the only ones who live in the hood? You GOTTA be outa your mind to think that.

I think I also answered this earlier when I said that you and Boar would be bitchin even more if the cops "made" people talk. I also mentioned how shitty it was that you thought it was ok if he said nothing because someone else would talk anyway.

I don't care what annoys you... lol. Ummm, no... I've never heard any of my boys or any one say they'd smoke a cop, or that they'd be scared to enter their hood lol. This just makes me laugh... you're so qualified to speak on this huh? lol.

As to my qualifications... I spent a large part fo my life living in Auckland. As it is outside of the US you may never have heard of it but it has a fairly bad record for violent crime. For the past 5 years I have lived in Donegal which is in the north of Irelend. I am sure you will have heard of that!

I have also said that just because you have never said that does not mean that it is not frequently said by others. Perhaps the "hood" you live in is not as bad as some. I am unfamiliar with the area.

Funny... I don't remember saying they should be punished... and I said ideally they would be perfect for everyone... With the two scenerios below... come on now... that's rediculous. I've seen it happen... but if his friend actually knows who did it... there are probably a wealth of other who know also, and are willing to speak... this goes along with your stupid statement above.

I have also responded to this point with the fact that you say that you have seen it happen and yet you think it is rediculous. While I am no debating expert this does not make sense to me.

Lol and the second one is stupid... honestly... I would put up a stink too... their guns drawn ... I'm bound to get shot with their immense skill lol. I could throw you many, many scenerios... so let's not get into this game.

I have also responed to this one but will repeat it again for you. They are responding to a potentially dangerous situation. You getting called out of your car at gunpoint does you no harm. Them not calling you out at gunpoint is potentially fatal for them.

Now I have responded ot each of your points (most of them twice). I am also neg repping you after going back over the whole discussion I think that your debating ability also sucks. I had one bad statistic that made a small point against your argument. You just talked shit and did not make any points.

Have a nice day
Cam

[J-Luck]

First off, before I respond to anything your obviously dumbass has to say, I will tell you this: any reps points you got from me, said they were from me, or that was heavily implied. Or, you didn't get them from me. Simple as that.

[J-Luck]

After your comments I tried to go back and look at your statements but there did not seem to be any points worth refuting (again). I will try anyway (but I am not sure why). I am not surprised you got rep points because you are agreeing with Boar and he and his little admiration society (I believe it is his wife and some other family member) always stick together in these arguments (which I guess is a good thing). I also got neg rep points and I assume it was from either you or them (more likely you as Boar would have had the balls to tell me first).



I accept that the statistic I quoted was wrong but it was a very small part of a very long post. The general point of the statistic was that cops are in more danger in some areas than others and I do not think that you can refute this.



I think I also answered this earlier when I said that you and Boar would be bitchin even more if the cops "made" people talk. I also mentioned how shitty it was that you thought it was ok if he said nothing because someone else would talk anyway.



As to my qualifications... I spent a large part fo my life living in Auckland. As it is outside of the US you may never have heard of it but it has a fairly bad record for violent crime. For the past 5 years I have lived in Donegal which is in the north of Irelend. I am sure you will have heard of that!

I have also said that just because you have never said that does not mean that it is not frequently said by others. Perhaps the "hood" you live in is not as bad as some. I am unfamiliar with the area.



I have also responded to this point with the fact that you say that you have seen it happen and yet you think it is rediculous. While I am no debating expert this does not make sense to me.



I have also responed to this one but will repeat it again for you. They are responding to a potentially dangerous situation. You getting called out of your car at gunpoint does you no harm. Them not calling you out at gunpoint is potentially fatal for them.

Now I have responded ot each of your points (most of them twice). I am also neg repping you after going back over the whole discussion I think that your debating ability also sucks. I had one bad statistic that made a small point against your argument. You just talked shit and did not make any points.

Have a nice day
Cam

Ok now let me school you, YET AGAIN... lol this is getting old. Word from the wise*wispers* rhetoric has no value... it's all hot air lol .

That being said let's get to your so called points where you supposedly refuted me .

1. Lol I got rep points because I made sense... and you didn't. Simple as that. But, if you're saying getting rep point from Boar and those who support him is a bad thing, I think you're entitlted to your opinion. I, however respect his opinons, though not always agreeing with them. He's obviously an intelligent person with plenty of life experience, and that is something worthy of listening to.

2. NO, I can't refute in some areas that they are in danger. But, your unfathomable number brought the point to a whole new level... that couldn't possible exist with the statistic being so incredibly wrong. If cops really had 20 killed a year in a neighborhood, and if your national numbers were correct... then ya know what... I could COMPLETLY agree with them being afraid... but it wouldnt be a cop issue, it'd be somewhat of a military issue at that point. So no, it was not a small part of your argument. Cops should be in those areas that need them most, and no they do not have to fear anywhere near the point you previously stated. I'm glad you admitted you're wrong, but take full responsibility for it, instead of saying it was insignificant when it obviously wasnt.

3. I think you're being stupid again. WHEN DID I SAY IT WAS OK FOR THEM NOT TO TALK?! I support someones rights not to. Nothing more, nothing less. AGAIN YOU'RE TAKING WHAT I SAY OUT OF CONTEXT... *sigh*... STOP MAKING THINGS UP!!!!! The cops are only allowed to make people talk to an extent(remember, it's a democracy and we have rights). So where is the validity in this statement? Another rant? I think so.

4. Ok, that's all I wanted was for you to state what experience you had. Now, from what I know about Ireland it's not the worst place, but I have heard of some nasty places down there. That's all I wanted, was you to say you had some experience, and that you weren't just some rich dude saying you knew what it was all about.

And so you know, I live in the neighborhood of Olneyville, in the capitol city of RI, Providence. This is on the east coast of the US.

5. No, you're taking what I said out of context. What you said is a cop's only option is to give up when one person won't talk. My reponse was if there is one person who knew what happend, there will probably be multiple other people who know. Some of them will certainly be willing to talk, and if not, easily persuaded. My point was SOMETIMES it happens, but rarely. If one person saw it and knew about the situation, others probably knew of the situation leading up to the events also. (In other words, if there was an ongoing beef between two crews, gangs, or two people in general, you think only his close, close friends knew about it?). So respond to THAT, because THAT is what I've been saying. Though I can see how you could have misinterpreted that seeing as to how I wasn't particularly clear. I appologise for that.

6. Ok, you've responded before, doesn't mean you really said anything. I don't agree... I will never just take that. There are PLENTY OF CARS OUT THERE... in fact they make millions of each model... that's not enough info to go on. Maybe following a vehicle and seeing where its occupants go, and from there seeing if there is anything suspicious... but not going on some lead and pulling their gun out at me... HELL NO!

Look, I'm sorry you have no debating ability shown thus far. You do not seem unintelligent at all, but your points are easily refuted and based in rhetoric. Please respond to what I have written.

[cam427]

Ok now let me school you, YET AGAIN... lol this is getting old. Word from the wise*wispers* rhetoric has no value... it's all hot air lol .

What particular "rhetoric" are you discussing. Perhaps you can point out some.

1. Lol I got rep points because I made sense... and you didn't. Simple as that. But, if you're saying getting rep point from Boar and those who support him is a bad thing, I think you're entitlted to your opinion. I, however respect his opinons, though not always agreeing with them. He's obviously an intelligent person with plenty of life experience, and that is something worthy of listening to.

I also like Boar although we disagree on most things and he comes across sometimes as a crazy conspiracy theorist. I still believe you got the rep points because someone agreed with your point of view. That is not the same as having good debating skills.

2. NO, I can't refute in some areas that they are in danger. But, your unfathomable number brought the point to a whole new level... that couldn't possible exist with the statistic being so incredibly wrong. If cops really had 20 killed a year in a neighborhood, and if your national numbers were correct... then ya know what... I could COMPLETLY agree with them being afraid... but it wouldnt be a cop issue, it'd be somewhat of a military issue at that point. So no, it was not a small part of your argument. Cops should be in those areas that need them most, and no they do not have to fear anywhere near the point you previously stated. I'm glad you admitted you're wrong, but take full responsibility for it, instead of saying it was insignificant when it obviously wasnt.

So you agree with my basic point here that cops are in more danger in some areas than others. Fine. I will leave this then.

3. I think you're being stupid again. WHEN DID I SAY IT WAS OK FOR THEM NOT TO TALK?! I support someones rights not to. Nothing more, nothing less. AGAIN YOU'RE TAKING WHAT I SAY OUT OF CONTEXT... *sigh*... STOP MAKING THINGS UP!!!!! The cops are only allowed to make people talk to an extent(remember, it's a democracy and we have rights). So where is the validity in this statement? Another rant? I think so.

4. Ok, that's all I wanted was for you to state what experience you had. Now, from what I know about Ireland it's not the worst place, but I have heard of some nasty places down there. That's all I wanted, was you to say you had some experience, and that you weren't just some rich dude saying you knew what it was all about.

And so you know, I live in the neighborhood of Olneyville, in the capitol city of RI, Providence. This is on the east coast of the US.

Ok. So we agree I am "qualified" to talk to you now.

5. No, you're taking what I said out of context. What you said is a cop's only option is to give up when one person won't talk. My reponse was if there is one person who knew what happend, there will probably be multiple other people who know. Some of them will certainly be willing to talk, and if not, easily persuaded. My point was SOMETIMES it happens, but rarely. If one person saw it and knew about the situation, others probably knew of the situation leading up to the events also. (In other words, if there was an ongoing beef between two crews, gangs, or two people in general, you think only his close, close friends knew about it?). So respond to THAT, because THAT is what I've been saying. Though I can see how you could have misinterpreted that seeing as to how I wasn't particularly clear. I appologise for that.

I never actually got this from what you were saying but now that you have cleared up you position I think that there is a possibility that someone else would know but that everyone has the responsibility to assist the police. The only reason I can see to not assist them is because you intend to take action yourself. This is not an acceptable situation according to the laws we live under. I have heard many people on this board talking about how muslims must be prepared to live under the laws of the country they choose to live in and I believe this is true for EVERYONE!

I notice that you said "Probable" so even you accept that this is not always the case.

In my opinion, this constant downward spiral where people will not talk to the police and then go and get revenge themselves is part of why police become despondant and lose interest in these crimes.

6. Ok, you've responded before, doesn't mean you really said anything. I don't agree... I will never just take that. There are PLENTY OF CARS OUT THERE... in fact they make millions of each model... that's not enough info to go on. Maybe following a vehicle and seeing where its occupants go, and from there seeing if there is anything suspicious... but not going on some lead and pulling their gun out at me... HELL NO!

You and I are just going to have to disagree on this one. I think that the police pulling a gun on you when you did nothing pales in comparison to the risk of them losing their lives.

Look, I'm sorry you have no debating ability shown thus far. You do not seem unintelligent at all, but your points are easily refuted and based in rhetoric. Please respond to what I have written.

I think that (once again) I have responded to your points. I am also far from amazed with your debating skills but I do not think that is what we are discussing. Why dont you point out some of the rhetoric.

[J-Luck]

I don't take it as insult that you aren't amazed with my debating skills, I know what they are and have shown them many times over, and I'm not soo insecure that I need have a full scale discussion about that.

I don't feel I need to point out your rhetoric anymore, it seems as if through our last two posts that we have come to a RELATIVE consensus and though we may disagree, I think that's all it is, disagreement. As opposed to attacking points and thoughts not very well developed. I guess we weren't that far from each others thought process after all. I'll hit you up with a pos rep when I get the chance. Good looks on the last post.

[J-Luck]

and whoever gave me a neg rep on this thread for "balancing out" all the pos rep I got for it, name yourself, I mean, why would you do a bitch thing like that and hide behind a rep point? I mean, it's hard not to have balls on the INTERNET, you GOTTA BE A BITCH for that one.