Children's Programs

[Caddock]

play as the way
(PAW)

www.onedragon.com

I went and checked these out. The downloadable videos do little to sell me on them from the perspective of setting up a kids program. I saw the kids were having fun, and that they apparently did well in competition, I can garner the correlation there but I was expecting some more info on the meat around the system.

I am still interested though and the written descriptions on the page are enticing.

[kooky]

play as the way
(PAW)

https://www.onedragon.com

[GonzoStyles]

Tim back when I was low man on the totem pole at Master Toddy's, part of my duties to the gym included teaching in the kids class . anyone who has been to Thailand or knows anything about Muay Thai knows that the Thais start young.

we would focus alot on discipline and as a reward for maintaining this discipline you got to do things like hit the pads or bags (we had speacil light weight cloth stuffed bags for the kids), I found that the children were ready to listen alot more than some adults! after some warm up excercises we would show some basic technique; very basic, then have the kids do it shadow boxing style but fairly stationary,taking time to observe and interact with each one, then we would form them into several lines and let them come foreward and do the technique a few times with the instructor watching and correcting them and using praise with placing emphasis on the more you were behaving and paying attention the more the got to hit the pads/bag. one of Master Toddy's main points was to instill discipline and manners in these kids and the parents were overwhelmed by the results, of course we couldnt do it all alone you had to have the parents on the same page, but you could actually see progress with things like patience with these kids.

[kempogal]

So very mature! If you don't understand anything but the martial aspects, I do feel sorry for you, as you're missing out on so much!

But go find another forum...and don't bug the grown-ups any more!

if you want them to learn cooperation and teamwork then get them to play a team sport. martial arts is more of an individual thing.

martial arts: arts used for fighting

sports: activities used for excersice, recreation COOPERATION, TEAMWORK, competition etc

tech your stupid kids a sport if thats what you want you insignificant pestulant and ridiculously pousillanimous dimwit with a ludicrously undersized intellect.

this forum is dying

[crackerjacker]

okay I realize this post is old. My son is seven and is in little warriors. ITs great for him because he go at his level he was in soccer for a few years and it was painful to watch all the other kids keep the ball away from him because he wasn't as good. He is pretty new to the sport and is just learning but he loves it, they do some punching combos in the mirror, some muay tai wrestling, he laughs hysterically during the wrestling as he is very ticklish no strikes and some fun games like british bulldog and dodge ball. So far he really likes it and its really good for his strength and cordination and self esteem.

[jdolsenmau]

I have been trying to find the same information about teaching kids non TKD or karate type training. I have been asked countless times when I would have a childrens program up and running for that exact age group. I take what excessive force says to heart as I see eye to eye with most of his posts.
And Tim I like your forums as ther are not to many people swearing like on Sherdog.
Also nice job on DVD, I have he Focus Mitt's DVD.

[osopardo]

...you insignificant pestulant and ridiculously pousillanimous dimwit with a ludicrously undersized intellect.

Did he just say that to Mousel!?!

[Justin]

teaching kids

My company has a new DVD out on teaching kids BJJ and MMA

https://www.member-account.com

[ryanhall]

im sorry if i say stupid things. i get bored and say the first thing that comes into my head. just ignore me and dont let it annoy you.

Uhhhh...this is the internet. The very nature of the written word allows you to avoid speaking off the top of your head and making an ass of yourself due to impulsiveness. But I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

[Bri Thai]

I wasn't the nasty pastie now was I?

Oh tut tut tut!

[Crouchtig]

shut up bri thai. you can never say anything nice about anyone can you?

[Bri Thai]

Butt Kisser........

[Crouchtig]

sorry

im sorry if i say stupid things. i get bored and say the first thing that comes into my head. just ignore me and dont let it annoy you.

teach children whatever you want. i cant stop you.

the post just above this was so good that i have been converted

its good for children to learn martial arts because it is fun, good excersise and helps build confidence and teamwork etc.

please dont ban me oh great one

[Bri Thai]

I really miss that Crouchtig guy.

Not.

Fighting arts are good for kids, but there are some extra considerations.

- don't teach them things thast are deadly. The poor blighters will end up in a loony bin if they de-wind pipe a schoolmate.

- stress non violent means, i.e. verbal persuasion, avoidance etc. to be used first. We want our kids to be safe, and not be looking for a fight.

- take extra care for their safety when training.

etc.etc. etc.

[eXcessiveForce]

Okay back to the original question.


My school has taught quite a few kids and out system really goes after marketing to kids. Let me give you some info and if you have any additional questions or more indepth info email me and I'll try to answer.


First there are important things with teaching kids. First is attention span it is 30 seconds for children 5 years and younger and up to 3 minutes for children to age 10. Adults are up to 10 minutes.

This means you have to change the amount of time you spend on each activity.

For instance. 1 minute bad work, wind sprint 1 minute bag work, 1 minute pushups. 1 minute bag work

you can alternate as much as you want but you will only be frustrated if you try to make them do technique work for longer than their attention span. but they will let you go back to the same activity several times.
Also you can change the activity slightly and sometimes that is enough to get a few minutes out of them.


You must set direct goals.

tell them what you will teach them, show them what you will teach them, teach them, tell them what you taught them, then ask them what they learned. This also helps when dad asks them what they learned today. They don't give the I don't know phrase that makes parents wonder why they are paying for this.

High energy is important. Get them Yelling, Then make them be quite and then back to yelling. it makes life easy once they learn there are times to be loud and times they must listen.

Kids are not mini adults. If you go in and teach with a lesson plan it helps, but if for some reason they aren't interested in it throw it out and do something else.

Kids will also do killer workouts if you make them. It is a good fall back when they don't seem to want to pay attention.

Reward them. let them play a game if they do well. But try to find a game that will also work on the skills you want them to learn. We used to put them in a hoola hoop and throw nerf balls at them and let them block them. they have fun and they build coordination.

Set intermediate goals. Kids will not train two years for a belt. Belts may not mean anything to you but they mean a lot to kids. And putting a piece of tape on the belt lets them know they are one step closer to a new belt.

Teach children the same things you would teach adults. Demand good technique, hands up, and power and they will live up or down to your expectations.

My first school we went to our first tournament and only took 5 kids. They all won a trophy, most of them won two. And there were many who won first place trophies.

My second school's first tournament we took 8 people and brought back 16 trophies. 14 of them were first place.

My kids were taught the same material as my adults. Contact was kept lower but they still made it. And they learned that if they wanted to be allowed to go to the adult class they had to earn that right.

Sparring was done with point sparring rules in the beginning just a little above their level. We had them spar with adults of high rank who could control their techniques and power. Again just above the childs level.


The rule is Make it fun, make it exciting, and teach them what's right.

Parents want to know you are teaching them a code of conduct that keeps them out of trouble and makes them better people. Not blood thristy killers. (that comes later after they have put in a few years and spent enough money that the parents don't want to think they threw all their money away.


We would give out 2 weeks of classes free, and 1 month free depending on the time of year and how the make up of the classes were going. Give them prizes for bringing in friends who sign up. It improves retention and gets more students that like eachother.