William Cheung's Traditional Wing Chun

[BoarSpear]

I'm growing bored with trying to educate you. You hide behind nonsense and bull shit.

Yeah dude, stop hiding behind Thai Bri.

[Thai Bri]

Thats just stupid Tameo.

Of course there are no rules that say what techniques you may perform in a real fight...... But there are plenty laws of nature, as well as proven strategies and tactics.

I'm growing bored with trying to educate you. You hide behind nonsense and bull shit.

I wish you all the best on your journey.

[Oraenor]

There are no rules in real life

Isnt there like the laws of physics, nature, chemistry etc?

[Tameo]

Like I said..... don't look at the fighting.....

Guys. We have to simplify things for our Tameo, as he is at a more basic level.

Imagine that self protectionwas like driving a car. He is learning ways how to control the vehicle. Whether we think those methods are good or not is always open to debate.

But he, as yet, has no concept whatsoever of the rules of the road, the Highway Code etc. etc.

I would imagine that most people on this site are the same.

There are no rules in real life

[Thai Bri]

Like I said..... don't look at the fighting.....

Guys. We have to simplify things for our Tameo, as he is at a more basic level.

Imagine that self protectionwas like driving a car. He is learning ways how to control the vehicle. Whether we think those methods are good or not is always open to debate.

But he, as yet, has no concept whatsoever of the rules of the road, the Highway Code etc. etc.

I would imagine that most people on this site are the same.

[gabbah]

Im not actually advocating learning your self preservation principles from a fiction book. I was more trying to point out the idiocy of throwing weapons away when people are trying to kill you I dont care how incredible your h2h skills are, if you know how to use a firearm, its a MUCH better weapon.
Only an idiot chooses to fight with his hands when other options are available.

True.

My advice? dont do anything you see in a movie in a situation where your health is at risk.

What? I can't learn my skills and life lessons from movies?? Dammit, all this time studying van damme in vain...

BTW...If that wasnt clear enough...I in no way agree with Thai Bri's crap, ignore him.

Ah yes... that old fool. He doesn't even see the p0war of true wing chun.

[BoarSpear]

Im not actually advocating learning your self preservation principles from a fiction book. I was more trying to point out the idiocy of throwing weapons away when people are trying to kill you I dont care how incredible your h2h skills are, if you know how to use a firearm, its a MUCH better weapon.
Only an idiot chooses to fight with his hands when other options are available.

My advice? dont do anything you see in a movie in a situation where your health is at risk.

BTW...If that wasnt clear enough...I in no way agree with Thai Bri's crap, ignore him.

[gabbah]

So do you guys mind sharing that approach to self protection, as well as your own thoughts on it?
Or will you just refer me to movies and books, meaning I will certainly misinterpret the whole thing and start doing wing chun padda cake for self defense...

[BoarSpear]

Your missing the point.

At the risk of sounding a little crass. go and watch the Bourne Identity and the Bourne Supremacy. See how he approaches self protection........ BUT ignore the fight scenes. I'm not talking about how you fight, I'm talking about how you protect yourself. That'll give you a flavour.

Fighting isn't always self protection. In fact it is usually the opposite! But self protection may involve fighting.

Strategy and tactics dear boy, strategy and tactics.

Bad example Read the books maybe, in the books he didnt throw the guns away.

[Thai Bri]

Your missing the point.

At the risk of sounding a little crass. go and watch the Bourne Identity and the Bourne Supremacy. See how he approaches self protection........ BUT ignore the fight scenes. I'm not talking about how you fight, I'm talking about how you protect yourself. That'll give you a flavour.

Fighting isn't always self protection. In fact it is usually the opposite! But self protection may involve fighting.

Strategy and tactics dear boy, strategy and tactics.

[Tameo]

I know that techniques are useless if you dont know how to use the whole body. I did do all these fancy techniques and I got pushed through the center and fell off balance. I know agression is an important factor in fighting and the abuility to take a hit and recover right away throwing your own attackes as soon as possible is also very important in a real situation.

[Thai Bri]

Ramus! Yes! Well done! I wonder how that guys doing?

Tameo. The real battle for self protection is strategic, tactical and emotional. Without getting those right you will lose, like Cheungy did.

As for techniques? I draw from Senshido ( www.senshido.com ), WW2 Combatives, Thai Boxing and Grappling. A little Shukokai Karate double hip has found its way in there too. I work the Fence and pre emptive strike as explored by Geoff Thompson
( www.geoffthomson.com ) also.

You're way behind if you think that merely going to a martial arts class will train you to ptotect yourself. The game is way bigger than that.

At the moment you're learning how to drive a car on an open runway. Sure, some of those skills are uself. But without the tactical element you will never be able to drive on a busy road.

[Tameo]

Yes, I was right about Cheung.

No, I don't do Muay Thai, nor do I train Jiu Jitsu.

No, I don't think all Kung Fu is crap.

No, you have not seen powerful chain punches.

What do you train?

[Dim Wit Moc]

Bri, remembered the guys name in the middle of nowhere.

Tom: I've been studying Sifu Bodichung's Choychung/Wing Lay Fut System for a month now. I'm thinking of switching to either the Godzilla Flame Throwing Subway Train Stomping Defense System, or the Ultimate Eclectic Street Defense/Offense Karate System run by Sinsei Former Seal. I plan to stick out my choice and show my dedication by staying at least two months. I understand that Sifu Bodiching confronted Sinsei FS and toasted him with a flamethrower, thus demonstrating his superior, no rules streetfighting skill. The seminar he was teaching had to be cancelled and the fire department was called. His top black belt is now running the school. Since I respect you, I would like to know what I should do. Please help. Also, please don't recommend a shrink like the last person I put this question to.

[Tom Yum]

Ramus

Bri, remembered the guys name in the middle of nowhere.