Do soldiers make better Martial Artists?

[Broadsword2004]

I think it depends on the soldier. Your Army Rangers and Marines of Force Recon and other special operations forces I think make better martial artists when they train for martial arts because they are very dedicated to conditioning and fitness.

Being a type of soldier where you must be very, very physically fit, does kind of grant you ass-kicking powers on "most" people.

Like in Anthony Swofford's book, he sais when he was a Marine sniper, they were all a bunch of idiot showoffs who liked to drink, and he said at a bar this one time, these guys in the bar were starting crap with one of them. He said the guy proceeded finally to pick the guy pestering him up, and toss him literally over the bar counter. He said then the entire bar basically jumped them, and it was like 12 or so against 6 and he said they beat the crap out of all those guys.

Against a conditioned martial artist though, it is a different story of course, because those aren't the average joes of a bar.

As for cocky military guys, you get a lot of these idiot assholes who get out of high school and join the military, and you are right, they think they are automatically bad-asses, when really they are big dumb-asses.

Modern soldiers usually don't need hand-to-hand too much though, as those aren't used on the battlefield too much.

But your average soldier who is more elite knows a heck of a lot more then just cleaning toilets and digging holes. They know how to work as a team, how to fire and clean their rifles, they know all about rifles, they know a lot about their mission occupation speciality/job in the military, they have to practice lots of stuff.

Remember, there are your true professional soldiers who are elite and are serious and aren't total idiots, and then there are your dumbos.

[John05]

It's all about environment and circumstances.

If the fight occured, during a war, between a Pro Martial Artist and a soldier armed with a gun and bayonet, the soldier would win.

In any kind of ring, the soldiers fighting techniques that he had been taught are mostly worthless.

Not many fights allow military standard boots. A good arsenal for soldiers in hand to hand combat.

[koto_ryu]

LOL. Hey just wondering, and this is just pure curiousity, were you an enlisted Marine or an officer?

Enlisted, got out as a Corporal and now I'm considering the reserves back at home while I go to college. That'll mean a helluva drive though, as the only two close to me are Motor T and field MPs, both of which I'd rather lose a testicle than do :P lol. I went through the GB instructor course when I was stationed at Okinawa in 2001.

[EmptyneSs]

soldiers think they are badasses, but the fact is they dont train in hand to hand combat many hours per day like alot of serious martial artists. they probobly know more about digging holes for toilets, piling sandbags, and other manual labor type things than hand to hand combat.

this one night at a party this guy who was soldier in the army was getting in my face. next to me was my friend who has done martial arts for 13 years and currently trains in bjj, and my other friend who trains in jkd and kajukenbo. this dude was about to get messed up, cause he thought he was tough since he was in the army. just cause u enlist in the army doesnt mean u are automatically granted ass kicking powers.

also, i know of an instructor and his friend who beat the shit outta 4 marines outside some bar. the marines thought they were badasses, but they all got messed up.

[TheMantis]

Im just curious and im 13 years old. TheMantis

[Broadsword2004]

LOL. Hey just wondering, and this is just pure curiousity, were you an enlisted Marine or an officer?

[koto_ryu]

For a while I have been thinking about military hand-to-hand combat and how effective it may be. I reckon that it may be one of the best because its based on get in "n" kill or defend for your life, what also makes me think that its one of the best is because the soldiers go through intense physical training like those huge obstacle courses and lots of other exercises, plus the fighting the soldiers use don't waste their time doing spin kicks, backflips or any thing of the such, also they do whats quickest and most effective. And of course this is for real, not some spar in a match or ring. I am asking for your opinions. Of course I'm talking about the Specialist Arms Services, the kind that do the "undercover" work. Here in Australia we have one of the best of their kind. TheMantis

Being a former Marine and a green belt instructor in the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program, I'd actually have to say I am more reliant on my ninjutsu background than any of that. All I have seen it do is give the administrative dorks some big egos once they got their tan belt (belt progression is tan, gray, green, brown, black) they'd go into bars and start fights with 300 pound bikers and get their asses stomped.

[TheMantis]

For a while I have been thinking about military hand-to-hand combat and how effective it may be. I reckon that it may be one of the best because its based on get in "n" kill or defend for your life, what also makes me think that its one of the best is because the soldiers go through intense physical training like those huge obstacle courses and lots of other exercises, plus the fighting the soldiers use don't waste their time doing spin kicks, backflips or any thing of the such, also they do whats quickest and most effective. And of course this is for real, not some spar in a match or ring. I am asking for your opinions. Of course I'm talking about the Specialist Arms Services, the kind that do the "undercover" work. Here in Australia we have one of the best of their kind. TheMantis