How would?..

[jubaji]

think about the weakness of the movement ... Exposure of the back, very commited(once someone goes for the shoot they aint stopping), .... exploit that weakness.



For some reason people think the shoot is a movement that cannot be overcome or is very hard to overcome, but like any other movement - it can be overcome. You just have to stick to what you know works and not chuck in the 'MMA rules' responces just because everyone else is doing them ....

chris

Words bespeaking a blissful state.

[MatthewAlphonso]

I don't understand some of you people. If you dislike the CMA's so much, why do you bother hanging around the CMA message board? why bother saying, "Oh, you do CMA that's retarded for..." and, "It will never function in combat because..."

You're like the damned missionaries (Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses) that come to my house. You're not going to change these peoples views, stop trying, and stop degrading other people's beliefs.

My gods you people are stupid at times.

[bbbb]

who!?

I don't understand some of you people. If you dislike the CMA's so much, why do you bother hanging around the CMA message board? why bother saying, "Oh, you do CMA that's retarded for..." and, "It will never function in combat because..."

You're like the damned missionaries (Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses) that come to my house. You're not going to change these peoples views, stop trying, and stop degrading other people's beliefs.

My gods you people are stupid at times.

Who say's thing's like these!!!!!!!!!!?

[jubaji]

My gods you people are stupid at times.

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[chris davis 200]

Jubaji ......... great argument mate.

out of interest what are your views on dealing with a shoot?? Sprawl then head for ground grappling?

[jubaji]

Jubaji ......... great argument mate.

out of interest what are your views on dealing with a shoot?? Sprawl then head for ground grappling?

First of all its a "shot". The rules for nouns and verbs still apply. Second, there is no short answer to something that involves a number of skills relative to your opponent. The first thing you need to become aware of is what a real shot is. If your experience is limited to kenny karate who pracitces takedowns for 30 minutes every other wednesday, or bobby brazil who really just wants to jump into guard anyway, you are not going to get a feel for how hard, fast, and uncomfortable a real shot can be. Then you can start working on your defense, which will include sprawling, but more importantly reading the opponent's attempts to set you up before the shot.

In short; its complicated.

[chris davis 200]

Jubaji,

You amuse me with your assumptions .... the guys i have trained with could never be skilled could they ...... but hey think what you like, this isnt a thread about 'my training partner is better than yours'.

Also, your right it is complicated, a number of factors determine your resonce and there are Numerous possible responces. Depndant on timing, distancing, speed, agility etc etc.

I simply highlighted an effective idea. Dropping the point of the elbow into someones spine as you sprawl their shot is very dangerous, hence the reason it is banned from MMA competition. If it didnt work they wouldnt worry about hitting the spine and it would be legal.

It is complicated, yes, hows about you enlighten us all with your methods?

Chris

[jubaji]

Jubaji,

You amuse me with your assumptions .... the guys i have trained with could never be skilled could they ...... but hey think what you like, this isnt a thread about 'my training partner is better than yours'.hris

You're right, I don't know you or your training partners. So I have only your words to go on. It is by those words that I infer that you are not dealing with real high quality shots.

[OSHIEGO]

Shift a small bit, and then lock his head.

IN THE ADVISE ABOVE LIES A GOOD DEFENSE... GET YOUR SELF TO ONE SIDE ABIT AND GET THE YOUR ARM CLOSEST TO YOUR OPPONENT BETWEEN HIS/HER SHOULDER AND NECK. THEN WRAP THAT ARM AROUND THEIR HEAD AT ABOUT NOSE LEVEL. NOW LOCK YOUR PALMS TOGETHER AND ROTATE TOWARD THE ARM WHICH IS AROUND THE FACE.

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BE LIKE WATER...

[chris davis 200]

so give us your ideas against a 'High Quality Shot' .......

....... or is it undefendable ????????


Chris

[OSHIEGO]

If You Were Asking Me, I Do Not Believe In The Quality Of The Shot, I Only Believe Thatthey Are Either Sucessful Or Unsecessfull When It Comes Down To It. This Obviuosly Depends On Wether Or Not The Defense Was Sucessful Or Not.. But, Do Not Get Me Wrong, There Are Proper Ways To Exicute A Technique And Improper Ways Also.

[jubaji]

so give us your ideas against a 'High Quality Shot' .......

Haven't we already discussed this?

[jubaji]

If You Were Asking Me, I Do Not Believe In The Quality Of The Shot, I Only Believe Thatthey Are Either Sucessful Or Unsecessfull When It Comes Down To It. This Obviuosly Depends On Wether Or Not The Defense Was Sucessful Or Not.. But, Do Not Get Me Wrong, There Are Proper Ways To Exicute A Technique And Improper Ways Also.

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Btw, is there some reason that you chose to capitalize every word in your post? Strange...

[IBOPM]

IN THE ADVISE ABOVE LIES A GOOD DEFENSE... GET YOUR SELF TO ONE SIDE ABIT AND GET THE YOUR ARM CLOSEST TO YOUR OPPONENT BETWEEN HIS/HER SHOULDER AND NECK. THEN WRAP THAT ARM AROUND THEIR HEAD AT ABOUT NOSE LEVEL. NOW LOCK YOUR PALMS TOGETHER AND ROTATE TOWARD THE ARM WHICH IS AROUND THE FACE.

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BE LIKE WATER...

Thanks I have rarely seen it anywhere else. I just thought of it one day.

[SimonM]

Chris: do yourself a favour and ignore Jubaji, he isn't worth talking to and NEVER contributes anything positive. He just likes making cracks about people and acting like an ass.