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  • #76
    How about a 30 year old, 5ft 9in tall, 150 lb. man well-versed in Bak Mei, Muay Thai, and jujitsu -- armed with a Springfield Socom 2 M1A rifle, complete with silencer, muzzle-flash suppressor and laser sighting?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Garland View Post
      What about a 5'8'' 165 lb muay thai, kali, and miscelaneous grappling guy with a empty forty ounce vs. a 220 lb kung fu guy who is looking the opposite direction?
      There are so many random scenarios we can come up with that aren't inside most folks stereotypes. Just goes to show how unpredictable fighting can be.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by sanjiyan99 View Post
        How about a 30 year old, 5ft 9in tall, 150 lb. man well-versed in Bak Mei, Muay Thai, and jujitsu -- armed with a Springfield Socom 2 M1A rifle, complete with silencer, muzzle-flash suppressor and laser sighting?
        That's a well armed dude.

        How fast does this guy run the 2-miler ?

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        • #79
          Kung Fu is not just a striking system. The fact is there has been over 400 type of martial arts developed in China. For example, taiji, wing tsun, hung gar, shaolin and many more. Each chinese martial arts have their own philosophy and objectives. And saying kung fu don't have grappling is a big misunderstanding because Chinese martial arts probably have the most grappling techniques in the world. Furthermore we normally refer ground fighting as dog fist but we rarely demonstrate this art because it doesn't look very nice in the public. The difference between brazilian jujitsu and dog fist is that our ground fighting consist a lot more stiking method while on the ground, on top of all the other submissions we learn. And "yes" we also learn where to bite to disable arm locks because we are imitating animals.. And I am currently taking Shaolin Kung Fu from a real monk and you can look at our cirriculum > www.shaolintemple.ca
          I aslo believe this misunderstanding is due to many inexperience kung fu partitioner in the Western society. 3 years ago Shaolin temple finally allowed monks to teach foreigners and if you really want to test their skills please feel free to go try. Try to do some research around your area and if you are lucky there might be a monk living near your neighbourhood. I am not here to offend any other martial arts out there but i just hope this misunderstanding is clear. And I aslo take Wing Tsun because I am a big chinese martial art fan.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by mea140 View Post
            Why does it seem every other thread is like this literally.

            Seek and Destroy...

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            • #81
              Originally posted by bbbb View Post
              Seek and Destroy...
              hella.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Garland View Post
                hella.
                Seems to be S.O.P.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by boslotlosbot View Post
                  my instructor in mantis chinese jujutsu
                  OMG Mantis Chinese Ju jitsu? all together makes it really sound credible....what BS is this

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by 47MartialMan View Post
                    OMG Mantis Chinese Jujutsu? all together makes it really sound credible....what BS is this
                    Wow, someone's at the stipmall...


                    or maybe that's his idea of mixing martial arts, by combining names.

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                    • #85
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                      • #86
                        I love the title of this thread!!

                        It is one hundred per cent true. I am a wing chun practitioner and that is my main art, but you soon realise that one art on its own will not give you what you want.

                        Wing Chun is extremely good at fighting in a street scenario, but there are times where you might need to switch. If I was fighting another wing chun practitioner there is no point fighting fire with fire.

                        Boxing, muay thai, BJJ, escrima, etc all bring in something different to your training. I really do hate traditionalists who insist that in real confrontations a bong sao will save you everytime etc.

                        In a cage environment (In which I've dabbled), kung fu gets slaughtered. Mainly because it is not designed as a submission art. It would be like trying to win a BJJ tournament by KO.

                        Kung fu is important to learn and I would suggest that MMA guys use it in what they do, but ultimately the people who know and understand a variety of martial arts will win the day.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Red Rum View Post
                          It would be like trying to win a BJJ tournament by KO.
                          Can you do that? A submissions tournament sans striking and knock the other person out? I guess if the fighter does some hard judo-esque slam or some shit...

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Garland View Post
                            Can you do that? A submissions tournament sans striking and knock the other person out? I guess if the fighter does some hard judo-esque slam or some shit...
                            I did it by accident once. I was training with a big partner and as I went for a takedown his head hit the floor and he went out cold.

                            The point was that you can't really do it in a BJJ tournament. Most of the time the rules prevent you from striking and it is very difficult to KO someone if you are used to submission fighting

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Garland View Post
                              Can you do that? A submissions tournament sans striking and knock the other person out? I guess if the fighter does some hard judo-esque slam or some shit...
                              LOL

                              I have knocked some folks out in wrestling matches. One amusing case was when I was in college and I was wrestling this guy from Harvard. It just so happened that we both decided to shoot for a double at the exact same time. Both lowered level and shot (and we were both pretty damn fast) at the exact same moment. The 'clang' of skulls filled the gym and the folks in the stands did one of those collective "Oh!" things, and many of them immediately looked away, not wanting to see the consequences. Well, I sort of jumped back and put a hand to my head and then looked at the hand, expecting to see blood. I was sort of surprised that I hadn't even broken the skin after such a tremendous collision. Then I looked over and saw that the Harvard guy was out cold on his back, not moving a muscle. He didn't come to the entire time he was in the gym. The EMT guys loaded him on a stretcher and took him away and he never so much as batted an eyelash. Our trainer checked up on him later and said he was ok, but he missed the rest of the season.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                                LOL

                                It just so happened that we both decided to shoot for a double at the exact same time. Both lowered level and shot (and we were both pretty damn fast) at the exact same moment. The 'clang' of skulls filled the gym and the folks in the stands did one of those collective "Oh!" things, and many of them immediately looked away, not wanting to see the consequences. .
                                Sounds like you were trying to re-enact ancient shuai jiao.

                                Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                                Well, I sort of jumped back and put a hand to my head and then looked at the hand, expecting to see blood. I was sort of surprised that I hadn't even broken the skin after such a tremendous collision. Then I looked over and saw that the Harvard guy was out cold on his back, not moving a muscle. He didn't come to the entire time he was in the gym. The EMT guys loaded him on a stretcher and took him away and he never so much as batted an eyelash. Our trainer checked up on him later and said he was ok, but he missed the rest of the season.
                                Was the Harvard guy forced to settle for an MBA after the accident? jk.

                                Harvard MBA = Next CEO
                                Last edited by Tom Yum; 04-25-2007, 11:13 PM.

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