'Things I should have learned about WC in a year but didnt.'

[Thai Bri]

Can't you think?

Who do you think it was?

Doh!

[Troll Virus]

It wasn't the real Phil Elmore you stupid knob-stick.

Can't you read?
Like where I said;

This is not Phil.

[Thai Bri]

It wasn't the real Phil Elmore you eedjut.

But it was someone that we all know and love!

Well, all except you!

Haw haw haw!

[Troll Virus]

You thick bastard.

Tell him, somebody!

Haw haw haw!

Tell us all Thai Bride.

[Thai Bri]

You thick ie boy!
Tell him, somebody!

Haw haw haw!

[Troll Virus]

Phil just isn't interesting enough for that.

Which makes the task perfect for Thai Bridie.

[Sagacious Lu]

If you're curious, why don't you go ask him on his own web forum?

Phil just isn't interesting enough for that.

[Troll Virus]

If you think that was anonymous you have got to be the slowest sloth in slow slothland!

Haw haw haw!

If you're curious, why don't you go ask him on his own web forum?

[Thai Bri]

To members;
ignore this poster.
This is not Phil.
While I personally don't agree with the 'twaddle' Phil frequently espouses, this garbage is beneath him.

It's not even constructed to provoke much of a reaction, rather, it pre-disposes a negative opinion of someone the imp has never met, yet feels safe to deride anonymously on the internet.

Bullshydo low-life.

If you think that was anonymous you have got to be the slowest sloth in slow slothland!

Haw haw haw!

[tjwingchun]

I have made an extensive study of Wing Chun at the Syracuse Wing Chun Academy. Unfortunately my Sifu ruined things by opening up training to other arts, some of which even made you sweat, so I left.

I stopped sweating years ago, found it unnecessary and unflattering, it has been nearly 20 years since I have done a press-up or sit-up and I have found the the best exercise I get is to watch the opening sequence of Barb Wire, tremendous forearm training, just expensive in tissues.

But I do know enough about the structure of this fine art to confirm that a good Wibng Chun Master, like myself, cannot be beaten or taken down by anybody.

I fully endorse the statement and I personally ratify it and have never even been touched in a fight on the street, problem is I keep waking up.

It is in the structures and theory after theory proves me to be correct.

And theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory after theory, it must be correct otherwise I am using the wrong orifice for conversation.

[Troll Virus]

I have made an extensive study of Wing Chun at the Syracuse Wing Chun Academy. Unfortunately my Sifu ruined things by opening up training to other arts, some of which even made you sweat, so I left.

But I do know enough about the structure of this fine art to confirm that a good Wibng Chun Master, like myself, cannot be beaten or taken down by anybody.

It is in the structures and theory after theory proves me to be correct.

To members;
ignore this poster.
This is not Phil.
While I personally don't agree with the 'twaddle' Phil frequently espouses, this garbage is beneath him.

It's not even constructed to provoke much of a reaction, rather, it pre-disposes a negative opinion of someone the imp has never met, yet feels safe to deride anonymously on the internet.

Bullshydo low-life.

[Phil Elnore]

I have made an extensive study of Wing Chun at the Syracuse Wing Chun Academy. Unfortunately my Sifu ruined things by opening up training to other arts, some of which even made you sweat, so I left.

But I do know enough about the structure of this fine art to confirm that a good Wibng Chun Master, like myself, cannot be beaten or taken down by anybody.

It is in the structures and theory after theory proves me to be correct.

[tjwingchun]

'Skippy' hop stance is to tell your legs to face the middle center line

so your arms and legs makes a triangle towards your front or (enemy)

Not sure how far back the 'skippy' stance reference is but in my view it is an incorrect understanding of how to use the legs, you use the legs to drive down your centreline with the heel of the back leg being in contact with the floor at the point of delivery of a technique, if you do not have a structure to resist the reactant energies you will simply bounce off your opponent with the same energy that you are putting into them, ask Newton "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".

I also have an aversion to triangles in Wing Chun, I prefer to use the straight line as my abstract concept, even when I am standing with my weight equally distributed in a basic stance when I actively use my stance I focus on just one leg and how the energies are operating through the body from the heel to the point of contact, even if I am not actually moving my feet and little movement being apparent in my body the co-ordination of muscles is down one line from or the other.

The more the joints are aligned in the plane of movement and the closer that alignment is to a straight line then the more efficient I will be in delivering maximum energy into the target.

[Wai Yeung]

'Skippy' hop stance is to tell your legs to face the middle center line

so your arms and legs makes a triangle towards your front or (enemy)

[tjwingchun]

I think your comments on the stances is subject to your own opinion. Different styles incorporate the stances in different ways. You say that the stances are exaggerated and maybe to a certain extent they are, but in times of extreme high stress situations you have to go with what you know. That's the whole purpose of learning how to balance yourself with the stances. Something must have gone very wrong if you've entered the fighting stage. It means there was a serious failure in communication and all avenues have been exhausted. When this happens, it's pretty much a crap shoot in who will win and who will not. You do not know how determined the other guy is. Maybe the other guy is drunk and doesn't care that you broke his nose and his teeth and he keeps swinging. You don't know if his friends are going to jump in behind you and take you down. All you can really know in a fight is lower the odds of you getting your butt kicked.

Welcome to the forum, cannot really argue against anything you say as it is much the same as my opinion, I teach TJ Wing Chun, TJ=ME, it is how I understand MY Wing Chun, it is MY personal understanding of MY body mechanics when used in violent confrontations. Then I try to get students to understand themselves the way I understand myself. That is when it gets messy.

Understand where you are coming from with the "Wing Chun suprise" theory, but although I agree with much of what you say, my feelings are that Wing Chun has a few more edges, even in a MMA competition, though admittedly as you intimate elsewhere, it is a case of percentages and in the professional arena because of the personal abilities of the fighters making up most of the factors for success, it might only be a slight but I believe would be a positive infuence.