Why Kung fu is the ultimate martial art.

[Garland]

Quit yer whining, ya little bitch.

seconded. here at defend...we pride ourselves on dealing with our own problems. Unless somebody is trolling every thread you make, or is making threats...or is doing something to slander you or **** with your life (such as finding your instructors and whining to them about how awful you are)...learn to DEFEND yourself, and stop moaning and groaning. Enjoy your stay, and remember...real men aren't tattle tales.

[jubaji]

May i just point out that Sad Balls would have been more appropriate than Ball Sack. Either way....you really know how to offend someone.

Can someone please advise how i would report this person to a moderator for this diabolical act of behaviour.

Regards,

Sad Sack

Quit yer whining, ya little bitch.

[sad_sack01]

Ball sack you can shut the hell up, after reading your post "Bruce Lee", I honestly believe you surpass stupid.

don't talk to me

May i just point out that Sad Balls would have been more appropriate than Ball Sack. Either way....you really know how to offend someone.

Can someone please advise how i would report this person to a moderator for this diabolical act of behaviour.

Regards,

Sad Sack

[Jiu-fu fighter]

this is the style of kung fu I did

http://www.kajukenpopailum.com/

and you are right there are many styles of kung fu

[WildWest.]

Let the man explore gong fu and see what he can take from it. It maybe what he needs at this point.

Again, not all gong-fu is ineffective. Alot of the time its the individual who makes the fighter, not just the art. Keep in mind that the WW2 combatives system was influenced by traditional Chinese and Japanese arts.

The current system used by the South Korean SF is also influenced by traditional Chinese and Korean arts. They're battle proven in close quarters, according to accounts from the U.S. military during Vietnam.

You always lend a balanced view to the argument Tom...and I like that. We do need a clearer interpretation of Jiu ju fighters Kung Fu however as it could be one of hundreds of styles.

[Jiu-fu fighter]

I'm afraid i read all 3 pages of this drivell and became extremely bored.

Try again

Ball sack you can shut the hell up, after reading your post "Bruce Lee", I honestly believe you surpass stupid.

don't talk to me

[sad_sack01]

I can understand that, maybe I have put my feelings into it and my own personal bias... but.. I have looked at the facts too , and I have been listening to what you guys have said also

hell, even if I achieved nothing with this post, at least I kept you guys from getting bored

I'm afraid i read all 3 pages of this drivell and became extremely bored.

Try again

[Jiu-fu fighter]

Don't just go off of your feelings. Try looking at facts as well.

I can understand that, maybe I have put my feelings into it and my own personal bias... but.. I have looked at the facts too , and I have been listening to what you guys have said also

hell, even if I achieved nothing with this post, at least I kept you guys from getting bored

[JustaFighter]

the benefits of kung fu I feel are much better and that is why I made this post.

Don't just go off of your feelings. Try looking at facts as well.

[Jiu-fu fighter]

also, like I said,

I do have some experience with martial arts ,kung fu( one year). kickboxing (less than a year), wrestling ( about three months),brazilian jiu jitsu ( about three months)

I know, I am very new and for the rest of my life I will be learning.

[Jiu-fu fighter]

thanks for helping me out tom, but I can see that I should have thought more about this post before sending it out.

I am relatively new to the martial arts considering I am only 19 years old, i have also not been in this world for long..

I have not put down harder styles of martial arts, just admitted that they do not have much or little emphasis on becoming better spiritually , which I personally consider a big flaw
I know that a person who trains hard in these arts can become awesome fighters, hell i have seen many, but!!
the benefits of kung fu I feel are much better and that is why I made this post.

I could have stated it much better, but I guess I rushed my first post, and from then on I was just defending myself.

I am sorry if i defended anybody, but don't be so harsh after all I am learning, and everything you say I take in and add to my experience and knowledge.

but if nobody can see or admit that what I have said has any validity, than perhaps you are the close minded ones

[jubaji]

You guys are going above and beyond objections at this point. .

Where do you see that?

[JustaFighter]

Well Jiu-Fu's way of expressing himself through martial arts is not my way. And I completely disagree with him on his approach that such styles like boxing and (modern) Muay Thai are ineffective arts due to the fact that they don't preach spirituality or mystisism within the art. If someones goal is to be an effective fighter and physicaly, mentaly and spiritualy well rounded also. Then there are better options out there than Kung-Fu. However you just might have to do hard work to find it for yourself. Instead of just taking a persons word on it. IE One high ranking Kung-Fu Teacher.

[Tom Yum]

Counterpoint

Jiu-fu, what alot of these guys are trying to tell you is that sometimes you don't have to seek fights to be in one.

Selecting a martial art that teaches you how to be effective in a short amount of time is wise if you think you're someone prone to that kind of environment.

[Tom Yum]

Here's the man's first post in its entireity:

PS - I cleaned up the spacings since I'm a sucker for details and other reasons, but I didn't change his spellings, word choice or grammar.

I had a very interesting talk with a high ranking kung fu teacher today, and I have to say it was very rewarding and enlightening.

I am sure that many of us see kung fu as a rather ineffective martial art or stands no chance against the other MMA's that you would see in the ufc.

but the fact is:

Kung fu is a martial art that takes a lot of time and energy , blood and sweat, to become a master at it. unlike say boxing which can be learned in a much shorter time.

Kung fu is all about being one with the world, flowing with nature. boxing does not teach this at all, kung fu teaches one how to meditate and focus the mind being able to relax the body and internalise ones own chi

we all know that the power of the mind is unbelievable, just think of a time that you have been really really angry or in a rage, did you not have unbelievable strength and stamina? yes you did, why you may ask?
because your mind was totally focused on that anger and was able to start functioning at a higher rate than is the norm. kung fu can teach one how to gain more control of ones mind and with that the possibilities are endless.
boxing or muay thai has very little or no emphasis on the spiritual side of the martial arts, it is a well known fact that a much looser and more relaxed martial artist will be quicker and more powerful of that who is always tense (just another example of what relaxing parts of meditation can do)

if you look at the shaolin monks, what they do is unbelievable, they are always so calm and at peace, but they can jump higher than any man, kick harder, punch harder, break stones on their bodies, break stones with their bare hands.. no mma man could do this. they have discovered and unharnessed the power of the mind, once you control the mind, nothing is impossible.

Kung fu definetly has more moves to learn than say boxing, muay thai, kickboxing, and takes much longer to learn, which is why an amateur boxer would beat an amateur kung fu man. because the boxer just practices only a few select moves over and over and over, but to learn kung fu takes much more dedication and time, which already shows the strength and willpower of the person, by the time you have learned all these moves, you have already won half the battle by inner strength alone. Kung fu may be viewed as much more complicated , but it should be viewed as an art of more possibilities.

you may argue that no kung fu man has ever made it against a ufc man, the fact is, a real kung fu man is enlightened and at peace he would not use his art to fight for show he is already far above all other martial artists and does not have to prove himself, those who you see that have been beaten are those that have gone looking for a fight or action and therefore have little skill or knowledge.

yes, I am expecting some serious debate on this one, but I hope that through all my ramblings you will learn something just like I have

I know my reading comprehension is inferior to most, but the guy is saying the following:

- He spoke with a high-ranked gong fu instructor.
- The gong fu instructor said that the art takes time to learn.
- " said that gong-fu is a philosophy and a method of self-improvement by developing a disciplined mind and self-control.
- " said that shaolin monks demonstrate above philosophy with impressive physical demonstrations.
- He concludes something to the effect of those who develop the gong-fu philosophy and fighting skills with it, do not seek fights.

Lastly, he expects some level of objection or critique on what he's posted.

You guys are going above and beyond objections at this point. Let's keep it somewhat professional, eh.

That is all.