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    i found a morning tai chi class which fits my parents schedule. i really like it and wonder if its gunna have any benifit when i do mma over the summer. i also work out at home 5 days a week. thank u

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    Tai Chi is an internal martial art and MMA and working out are generally external which normally will prove hazardous for both areas of your training.

    Rarely, can you find a way in which they compliment each other. However, dont get me wrong if youre capable of it, youll find the way

    But let me warn you the road will be rough

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    • #3
      but thats only my insight... prove me wrong!

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      • #4
        Taoist and Shoalin monks practiced both internal and external arts.

        We combine them in our school all the time. If you keep the principles of internal arts and apply them as best you can to the external art it works rather well.

        Sports like MMA, boxing and even football have participants who regularly take things like Tai Chi to help with balance, coordination and, muscle control.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by taoistscholar View Post
          Tai Chi is an internal martial art and MMA and working out are generally external which normally will prove hazardous for both areas of your training.

          Rarely, can you find a way in which they compliment each other. However, dont get me wrong if youre capable of it, youll find the way

          But let me warn you the road will be rough
          Saying working out is hazardous to your health is for out of shape people who are too lazy to put in the effort to get in shape.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be View Post
            Saying working out is hazardous to your health is for out of shape people who are too lazy to put in the effort to get in shape.


            Once again, you hit the nail on the head.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lilwizard View Post
              i found a morning tai chi class which fits my parents schedule. i really like it and wonder if its gunna have any benifit when i do mma over the summer. i also work out at home 5 days a week. thank u
              Ok! I do Tai chi, and my background before now, is almost purely hard stlyes, with the only exception being Hapkido. Which is still more external than Tai chi. If you find a dodgy or crappy teacher, it wont help. But if you find a teacher than can teahc you the martial side, the healing side, and will help you in developing skills associated with good Tai chi. THen it will help immesnely, speaking from experiance. I have honestly never found any other art as devestating, or as flawless as Taiji-quan. And even though most of the techniques within the form wouldnt be allowed and would be illegal in combat sport situations, the attributes, principles, and training techniques (such as push hands, and small and large san shou) will surely help.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by woaibbhemm
                Tai Chi is an internal martial art and MMA and working out are generally external which normally will prove hazardous for both areas of your training.
                Looks like we have a Troll who's been a busy bee reviving posts long gone.

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                • #9
                  But what he says is true.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by taoistscholar View Post
                    But what he says is true.
                    Eh, no its not. Internal and external have been trained side by side for centuries, ALL the original masters of the internal arts were masters of external arts first, and their training for their followers incorporated both ideas.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by taoistscholar View Post
                      But what he says is true.
                      Yeah you'd think so since all he did was quote you without giving the credit.

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                      • #12
                        Wuzuquan/Wu style Taijiquan=good?
                        I'm afraid I don't know too much. I want to do wuzuquan but it isn't offered where I live. I have to wait until I move south. In the meantime I wanted to know if getting into tai chi would be a good way of introducing myself to martial arts.

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                        • #13
                          Internal teaches us to relax our physical structure. External teaches us to make rigid and strengthin our muscles. The two sides contradict each other. The balance of internal and external is to relaxed external movements. Tai chi isn't strictly internal. It is both internal and external. But our lives are so biased towards external exercises we need to focus more on the internal aspect in order to find balance.

                          When we do external exercises we are harming our body intially by tearing our muscle tissues. This is why we always feel exausted after a physical workout and also why we feel a weaker immune system imediately after. Through internal training we are trying to let go of this muscles stiffness and all of our other external joint stiffness. Only once our body are fully healed can we get stronger. We cannot heal and grow at the same time. The roads of external practioner and the internal practioner both will meet at a internal/external point. However, training in both disciplines proves hazardous

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by taoistscholar View Post
                            However, training in both disciplines proves hazardous
                            Training to learn to throw people, say in a Judo class is not made more hazardous by practicing a Chi Kung, unless of course you try it in the middle of Judo class.

                            The concept that they're so different its dangerous to train them together is put forth by those trying to profit by mystifying the internal, or else in the process of trying to hide their lack of skills in one or the other they display their lack of understanding of both.

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                            • #15
                              The attitude...

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