Kung Fu and MMA

[jubaji]

MMA is not a "set of rules" it represents Mixed Matial arts which has become a martial art of its own.

That is incorrect, and you are an idiot.

[TTEscrima]

It seems that many act as if MMA fighting has become a style on its own, an aggressive ground and pound style that is able to overcome andy soft, willy, flowery, fancy, animal style, snake twisting, mantis clawing, tiger hoping, kung fu around. At least it seems that way.

IF anyone had any doubt you're a MMA nutthugger posing as a KF practitioner it's gone now. This is clearly more "MMA good, KF bad" from the MMA Nutthugger fan boy club.

1. Kung Fu is a style. MMA is a set of rules so THEY CANNOT BE COMPARED!

What?............MMA represents the mixed martial arts world of the TV shows and arenas like The Ultimate fighter etc. It seems that many act as if MMA fighting has become a style on its own, an aggressive ground and pound style that is able to overcome andy soft, willy, flowery, fancy, animal style, snake twisting, mantis clawing, tiger hoping, kung fu around. At least it seems that way.

But I believe they are wrong in this assumption.

MMA is not a "set of rules" it represents Mixed Matial arts which has become a martial art of its own, and yes with rules and restrictions. They are very different in combat.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

A lot of arguments on this forum could be settled if we all just met up and had a defend.net throwdown every couple months .

[jubaji]

Jubaji, what have you found in the TCMA arsenal that works. Specifically what techniques from which styles? Can any of these techniques/tactics work when combined with your base of wrestling?

That's just it, "this is technique X and that is technique Y" doesn't really come up when shit's going down. It's not like cartoons and bad movies where the 'hero' calls out each technique as he hurls it at his opponent. A lot of things, like when to push and when to pull, when to be strong and when to 'yield' and all that are somewhat universal and certainly things I was familiar with long before I got to TCMA. At a certain level, a punch is a punch is a kick is a kick is a throw, etc. Not meaning to be evasive, but that's how I see it. Or maybe I'm just not considering your question carefully enough right now. I'm just popping in and out of here while working on other things that require more concentration.

I will say that my wrestling experience enhanced and was positively influenced by every other thing I've trained.

[Tant01]

Informal...

Well, since Catpaw has continually ignored any request to explain how he trains and what he practices, it's clear he has no more intention of discussing his training than Jubarki. Surely someone with the screename Tigerclaw has done some serious conditioning and training to hone his weapons.

Hone my weapons...(?) I suppose it would only be natural with a screen name like "Tant01" to reply... Got a grip?

LOL

I thought I had tough hands and then I started climbing rocks...

You know... my hands are "farm" hands. I literally rip popcorn off the cob bare handed.

I still can't punch (hard targets) full power with a closed fist but I wouldn't want me getting my hands on anything "vital" if I had to fight me...

Hands are made to use "tools"...

Stay sharp,

[jubaji]

I thought you stopped drinking coffee.

Stop drinking coffee?!

Perish the thought!

[Tom Yum]

Bitter, bitter excrement...

I thought you stopped drinking coffee. Atleast you were debating that in an article you once wrote...? Assuming you are whom I think you are?

[Tom Yum]

Focus

Ok, so Tiger Claw hasn't said anything about animal styles....moving on.

Jubaji, what have you found in the TCMA arsenal that works. Specifically what techniques from which styles? Can any of these techniques/tactics work when combined with your base of wrestling?

We could use the assistance of Chrisdavis as well. I think his focus was internal CMA & aikido. I'm gonna try to PM him

[jubaji]

he has no more intention of discussing his training than Jubarki.

Poor unko-boy, he misses so much because of all the excrement in his eyes...

[TTEscrima]

Well, since Catpaw has continually ignored any request to explain how he trains and what he practices, it's clear he has no more intention of discussing his training than Jubarki. Surely someone with the screename Tigerclaw has done some serious conditioning and training to hone his weapons.

That's kind of hard to say, because by the time I started learning something of TCMA I had already been wrestling for 15 years and already had an unfortunately high amount of experience with real fights, so what I then additionally learned didn't 'stand alone' such that I could definitively say "that's X" in the heat of the moment. Also, since I dabbled (addmittedly, a year or two or three here and there and picking up a little sharing stuff with friends is only 'dabbling' in the larger picture) in so many things and since, of course, so much is common to many MAs, it would in any case be hard to say "this is X" or "that is Y" again, in the heat of the moment. I will say that the experience has influenced how I perform in certain circumstances.

That vague enough for ya?

[jubaji]

Bitter, bitter excrement...

[TTEscrima]

What notion were you clinging to when the big mf'er slapped the five o'clock shadow off of your face?

ROFLMAO. He was hanging out with the mall cop who was there telling his "One time in the Jewelry section" story and got himself smacked in the mouth by the waitress for annoying her by coloring off the place mat.

[jubaji]

I dunno why you guys waste your time encouraging the little mongrel to yap in the first place, you KNOW he isn't going to tell you anything that doesn't begin with "This one time at band camp we went to a Denny's and I suplexed three knife wielding Ninja's in the parking lot, all the waitresses thought I was sooo cool."

Ah, the excrement is runny and bitter today!

[TTEscrima]

Didn't you hire one of President Bush's speech writers for this?

I dunno why you guys waste your time encouraging the little mongrel to yap in the first place, you KNOW he isn't going to tell you anything that doesn't begin with "This one time at band camp we went to a Denny's and I suplexed three knife wielding Ninja's in the parking lot, all the waitresses thought I was sooo cool."