Kung Fu and MMA

[FLMKane]

Hello,

You said that there would be no respect unless the kung fu masters started beating up others. I do not agree there. hey already have respect from centuries of development from war and actual combat of many of the styles.

You also said that the grappler can also just attack the eys groin etc. But I would say that many of them have not trained that way, unlike the kung fu fighters that train that way. Also there is a great amount of technique
involved when we talk of attacking these areas. It is not just some simple thing a kid can do.You are oversimplifying things.

The worst man you would ever want to meet in a real fight and try to grapple him would have been one of my instructors. He would immediately have the vital areas attacked and the grappler would be in great shock. I have seen him fight similar. Because, as I have said, there is a different mindset. As I pointed out in this post, I showed other experts in martial arts agreeing with me and even the military is taking interest in this kind of combat real fighting.

I think it can be dangerous to not inform students of the reality of combat survival type fighting. if the students are only used to practicing for tournaments and sport, then they miss much of what MARTIAL ( or warlike) fighting has to offer.

Again, when I talk of such combat techniques etc, I am only refering to the best in the Kung Fu world, the masters and experts who have developed their style. I am not refering to the Kung Fu people who have only had a few years and who give it all up to become kick boxers in combat.

The way that i teach my students to fight is what I call, "form fighting". Every move and technique can flow into the next and the stances are thee ec. It looks just like fighting in forms. The men who origionated the forms did actually fight like that (I believe). They did not just all fight like so many kick boxers today. Kung Fu fighting is a whole different way of thinking and doing combat. Yes, this kind of fighting takes years to master. but this is the kind of Kung Fu person I am talking about

You are a disgrace. Stop ruining the name of Kung Fu with your pointless Karate Kid Blabbering. No real kung fu practitioner would talk like such a stupid nitwit. And what kind of a lunatic let you teach?

[FLMKane]

Kung Fu is one of the most effective fighting systems on the planet, (in my opinion). I

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Yeah sure, if you wanna spend the rest of your life in a temple.

Abd you persistently refer to MMA as a martial art. Its a goddamn sport, a set of rules. Any practitioner of any MA may fight under those rules.

[TigerClaw]

Wait.....


Is tigerclaw also Sherwinc?



Convinceeee??

No I am not this person.

[TigerClaw]

You are a disgrace. Stop ruining the name of Kung Fu with your pointless Karate Kid Blabbering. No real kung fu practitioner would talk like such a stupid nitwit. And what kind of a lunatic let you teach?

Again, like all those who shame their selves, you offer no proof or facts or evidence or any logical deduction for your vicious attacks upon me. I wait for sound reason and good conversation and thought provoking arguments. Instead I get this kind of dribble. Personal attacks with no backing, no reason for their attacks. I get the idea that some of the people from other forums come in ere and just attack me without reason.

When you say that no real kung fu practitioner would talk as I did. What do you mean by that? Show me exactly what you are talking about ? I am a real kung fu practitioner, so what are you talking about?

[TigerClaw]

[QUOTE=FLMKane;311717]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Yeah sure, if you wanna spend the rest of your life in a temple.

Obviously, from a man that has no idea what he is talking about.

[TigerClaw]

15 seconds? THAT's what I think is funny.

give or take a few seconds.

[TigerClaw]

TC, you remind me of this Chinese guy that I met 9 yrs ago. In a very thick Chinese accent, he said to me, "You know Jet Li? His kung fu... it is real!" I thought to myself, "What a dumb-fucker this guy is." Then I responded in a mock Chinese accent (The only reason that I did so was because Chinese people are so damn proud of anything and everything Chinese, as if nothing of any other origin is any good at all.), "You know UFC? Jet Li go in UFC and get ass kicked, hard!" To which he had no good response, kinda like you.

I am not talking about Jet Li, I am talking about the many many many many masters of Kung fu that you have no idea of.

[TigerClaw]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There you go. Do they have to wear big rubber noses and funny hats during training? Oh, do you teach them the technique where you pull a handkerchief out of your pocket and it just keeps coming out longer and longer? That's a classic.

Jubaji, my mocking friend,

Unless a person learns to fight in form, (as I call it), they are going to spoil their skills and be unable to actually use their techniques in combat the way they were intended. It seems that there are few today in the West that want to teach this way. I start to think that you and some others have no idea what I mean by form fighting?

[TigerClaw]

People can read them and decide for themselves, clown.

No, be specific, I said nothing that warrants any ridicule from you. I am waiting for your quotes and exact reasons why you mock it.

[Ghost]

Can you explain what you mean by form fighting.

Jubaji, my mocking friend,

Unless a person learns to fight in form, (as I call it), they are going to spoil their skills and be unable to actually use their techniques in combat the way they were intended. It seems that there are few today in the West that want to teach this way. I start to think that you and some others have no idea what I mean by form fighting?

[TigerClaw]

, but don't try and pass it off as RBSD. Posing like an animal with some big, wide Wushu stance will get your ass knocked down quick.

Obviously another man that has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. He actually thinks that taking a stance in forms has no use. Or fighting like an animal style fighting is no good. Well, everyone has a right to believe what they want.

By the way I NEVER said WuShu stance. I am nit talking about the moderns WuShu dance like acrobatics. I am speaking of traditional Kung Fu.

[TigerClaw]

I am not acting, by the way.

Tell me, someone who spends his time getting hit hard in the face, and hitting someone else hard in the face, is less effective then someone who spends time eye-gouging air?

Can you just be realistic for a second, please?

MMA fighters are big apes. Apes whose face is one big callous. Try some punch against them, expecting them to go down easy like you are taught in class, and get a huge reality check.

These MMA guys get hit over and over, and shake it off like it was nothing.

One punch from one of those guys to my TKD/Aikido loving face and I would probably be in the hospital, and I am thinking so would you, TC.

You overestimate their abilities way too much. I have fought hard and aggressive and had my nose broken and been smashed often enough. When we spared it was on a hard floor and we sparred aggressive. The only gear we had was a groin cup.

I think you are not aware of much of the arsenal in Kung Fu.

[Ghost]

You overestimate their abilities way too much. I have fought hard and aggressive and had my nose broken and been smashed often enough. When we spared it was on a hard floor and we sparred aggressive. The only gear we had was a groin cup.

I think you are not aware of much of the arsenal in Kung Fu.

ok can you show us something similar, anything on the whole of youtube that is similar?

[TTEscrima]

I think you are not aware of much of the arsenal in Kung Fu.

I'm curious about what type of conditioning and training you do for the Tiger Claw and Snake strikes.

[TigerClaw]

ok can you show us something similar, anything on the whole of youtube that is similar?

I could, but the you tube is not the expository of kung fu knowledge. We do not see many martial artist on the You tube. One of my instructors that I had does not have anything on you tube as far as I know, and he could fight very well.