Kung Fu and MMA

[jubaji]

Can you speak more on your experience with the traditional arts and putting them to work? ...

Can you be more specific?

[FLMKane]

So anyway, back to the discussion,

1. I think as we have shown by the experts and sound reasoning, that Kung Fu survival combat and sport MMA are two very different systems. Can we all say yes?

2. Also that Kung Fu has a long history of development and combat readiness? Can we all say yes?

3. And that Kung Fu is a wonderful fighting style that every single martial artist in the planet should seriously consider when thinking of self defense? Can we all say yes?

4. And though many martial arts systems are good and useful for combat, kung fu may be one of the most comprehensive systems on the planet? Can we all say yes?

5. And lastly that those who may poke at kung fu as soft and useless in combat really do not understand what they are talking about? Can we all say yes?

If you cannot say yes to any of these points, please share your reasoning with us.

1. Kung Fu is a style. MMA is a set of rules so THEY CANNOT BE COMPARED!

2. I agree. But which of the thousands of styles?

3. Never ever. Requires too much dedication and damn good teacher. You can take much simpler styles and simply add the gouges. Plus a lot ( not all) styles are form based to the cost of actual sparring.

4. Again your reasoning is weird because Kung Fu is too diverse to generalize. Which style of the thousands?

5. Depends again on which style. Also, there are numbnuts like you who make it all sound wussy.

[FLMKane]

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By the way what style of martial arts do you practice?

Says the BS kung fu wannabe to the Five Animals Style dude.I also started judo.

[Tom Yum]

Can you be more specific?

Yes, specifically how the TCMA have been used in real fights. What worked? Why?

[jubaji]

Yes, specifically how the TCMA have been used in real fights. What worked? Why?

That's kind of hard to say, because by the time I started learning something of TCMA I had already been wrestling for 15 years and already had an unfortunately high amount of experience with real fights, so what I then additionally learned didn't 'stand alone' such that I could definitively say "that's X" in the heat of the moment. Also, since I dabbled (addmittedly, a year or two or three here and there and picking up a little sharing stuff with friends is only 'dabbling' in the larger picture) in so many things and since, of course, so much is common to many MAs, it would in any case be hard to say "this is X" or "that is Y" again, in the heat of the moment. I will say that the experience has influenced how I perform in certain circumstances.

That vague enough for ya?

[kingoftheforest]

That's kind of hard to say, because by the time I started learning something of TCMA I had already been wrestling for 15 years and already had an unfortunately high amount of experience with real fights, so what I then additionally learned didn't 'stand alone' such that I could definitively say "that's X" in the heat of the moment. Also, since I dabbled (addmittedly, a year or two or three here and there and picking up a little sharing stuff with friends is only 'dabbling' in the larger picture) in so many things and since, of course, so much is common to many MAs, it would in any case be hard to say "this is X" or "that is Y" again, in the heat of the moment. I will say that the experience has influenced how I perform in certain circumstances.

That vague enough for ya?

Didn't you hire one of President Bush's speech writers for this?

[jubaji]

'Vague' is the new guy's style, not the old guy's.

[kingoftheforest]

Yeah I was confusing vague with dense.

[TTEscrima]

To Uke/TTexcrement/Dick Hardman,

Wow..a real internet tough guy making internet tough -guy threats against another member. I think you should be "put down" for that. "Put down" meaning "banned". Who needs you and your personal vendetta against Jubaji anyway?

Jubaji, good for you for not rising to the bait and answering in kind.

WTF are you on about? Your embarrassment over the stupid shit you continuously post, (Bay of Pigs a positive for Republicans, eye gouges/fishhooks being attempted murder, etc) has obviously overloaded your pea brain.

Do I really need to quote one of your 500 word attack rants against Jubarki before you left this site over the BS? Now that you're back, you're his biggest fan and completely infatuated with him, what happened, did you get promoted from dish washer to waitress at Denny's?

[jubaji]

Yeah I was confusing vague with dense.

They can be pretty similar sometimes.

[TTEscrima]

Didn't you hire one of President Bush's speech writers for this?

I dunno why you guys waste your time encouraging the little mongrel to yap in the first place, you KNOW he isn't going to tell you anything that doesn't begin with "This one time at band camp we went to a Denny's and I suplexed three knife wielding Ninja's in the parking lot, all the waitresses thought I was sooo cool."

[jubaji]

I dunno why you guys waste your time encouraging the little mongrel to yap in the first place, you KNOW he isn't going to tell you anything that doesn't begin with "This one time at band camp we went to a Denny's and I suplexed three knife wielding Ninja's in the parking lot, all the waitresses thought I was sooo cool."

Ah, the excrement is runny and bitter today!

[TTEscrima]

What notion were you clinging to when the big mf'er slapped the five o'clock shadow off of your face?

ROFLMAO. He was hanging out with the mall cop who was there telling his "One time in the Jewelry section" story and got himself smacked in the mouth by the waitress for annoying her by coloring off the place mat.

[jubaji]

Bitter, bitter excrement...

[TTEscrima]

Well, since Catpaw has continually ignored any request to explain how he trains and what he practices, it's clear he has no more intention of discussing his training than Jubarki. Surely someone with the screename Tigerclaw has done some serious conditioning and training to hone his weapons.

That's kind of hard to say, because by the time I started learning something of TCMA I had already been wrestling for 15 years and already had an unfortunately high amount of experience with real fights, so what I then additionally learned didn't 'stand alone' such that I could definitively say "that's X" in the heat of the moment. Also, since I dabbled (addmittedly, a year or two or three here and there and picking up a little sharing stuff with friends is only 'dabbling' in the larger picture) in so many things and since, of course, so much is common to many MAs, it would in any case be hard to say "this is X" or "that is Y" again, in the heat of the moment. I will say that the experience has influenced how I perform in certain circumstances.

That vague enough for ya?