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Bruce, why do you keep sending pictures of impractical techniques and escapes? I'm still waiting for your post on the armbar escape I asked for.
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Guest repliedyes, I speak of survival combat fighting, not sport fighting in a ring with gloves and rules and other limitations.Originally posted by -FIGJAM- View PostI think TC is trying to speak out side of competition, which is why you wouldnt see that strategy in a BJJ comp.
But the technique needs to be practiced for leverage and speed and accuracy. I have found however, that it is very easy to perform. Usually the attacker is not ready for such a move.
But remember you are talking to men in here that have already embarrased themselves with their lies about my Kung Fu etc, so for them to admit anything would look bad on them. But they should just eat that piece of humble pie.
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Guest repliedBen, stop your false quotes about me it only exposes you more as a liar. It really doesn't help the discussion at all, and only adds to the mountain of false lies and false assumptions that have spun into a massive web.Originally posted by Ben Grimm View PostSo you're starting to admit more and more about yourself TigerClown....
Grow up.
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I read your post Uncle, and agree, it would extremely difficult to use his move against a full force take down, especially how he described it. Personally, i would go for neck crank, or some sort of choke against that take down or sprawl into something from the rear.Originally posted by Uncle Skippy View PostYou know, neck cranks pulling on the bridge of the nose are legal in MMA rulesets.
Why don't we see everyone doing it there if it is so effective?
The answer is easy.
However, when on the ground, i think it would work, if you can wrap up the aggressor fast enough and then sink the eye gouge in. Having a open palm like that, would make it easier as well.
I think TC is trying to speak out side of competition, which is why you wouldnt see that strategy in a BJJ comp.
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You know, neck cranks pulling on the bridge of the nose are legal in MMA rulesets.Originally posted by TigerClaw View PostNo, I have had hard resistance trying to take me down. It still worked.
Why don't we see everyone doing it there if it is so effective?
The answer is easy.
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Glad I can feed your narcissism (you'll need to look that up again, like you had to the first time I wrote it).Originally posted by TigerClaw View PostTalking to men like you makes it easier.
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He finally admits it!
Originally posted by TigerClaw View PostHey, listen to this man he is telling the truth. I have always told lies. I don't want to be like this, but I must admit that I am to far gone to start telling the truth and gain any credibility.
I also attack people for there religion, as seen here, this shows what kind of person I am. Those who attack someones faith as I do and people such as myself who are certifiably insane, should be banned.
I don't know what my other personality is talking about. I discuss many issues with him and I expose more of my insanity.
He (my other personality) is trying to create controversy and attack. I try to avoid it, but I need psychological help. And it has everything to do with fear of him.
I am a liar. I am who I say that I am.
I begged him to be my friend on facebook. Figure that one out.
I always hide, my students and my friends and teachers and classmates know this. But you know everything. I like to keep you in the dark (it's a fetish I have) since I like men like you.
I am a liar. I can say that with absolute certainty. I know who I am. I know very little and have falsely assumed things. Please just go away so I can run around in circles somewhere else.
So you're starting to admit more and more about yourself TigerClown....
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Guest repliedHide,Originally posted by Uncle Skippy View PostThat is a lie.
According to this:
avoid synonym | Thesaurus.com
'hide' is a synonym for 'avoid.'
You make a false assumption and lie to suit your own needs.
You lying, false assumer of liars.
–verb (used with object)
1.to conceal from sight; prevent from being seen or discovered: Where did she hide her jewels?
2.to obstruct the view of; cover up..."
Avoid,
a⋅void [uh-void] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1.to keep away from; keep clear of; shun: to avoid a person; to avoid taxes; to avoid danger.
2.to prevent from happening: to avoid falling.
There is a difference.
Perhaps I should make it even clearer. Hiding and not wanting to meet a person are different. If I was hiding I would be covering up something, not wanting it to be discovered.
If I did not want to meet a person, that has to do with their character and attitude, not with fear or hiding anything.
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Guest repliedNo, I have had hard resistance trying to take me down. It still worked.Originally posted by Uncle Skippy View PostMy guess is that the person trying to take you down stopped when they made contact, which is unfortunately the case in schools/dojos/studios that do not practice with 'aliveness' or 'under pressure.'
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Guest repliedTalking to men like you makes it easier.Originally posted by Uncle Skippy View PostI'll say it again: it must be so hard and such a burden to be right all the time. How do you do it?
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Everything works in imagination land.Originally posted by TigerClaw View PostNot true. If you shift the back leg to the right and step around slightly his momentum does not force you back. Also even if you do go to the ground this will work. You can do this from the ground also.
See my response to FIGJAM above about why it won't work as easily as you have described it.
My guess is that the person trying to take you down stopped when they made contact, which is unfortunately the case in schools/dojos/studios that do not practice with 'aliveness' or 'under pressure.'
How will you be able to do it under pressure on the street if you don't practice it under pressure in a controlled environment?
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Guest repliedYou mean like this video,Originally posted by mellow View PostVideos can lie to you. You should go and witness his movement firsthand.
YouTube - Willow Bends: Jiulong Baguazhang Static Push Hands
sorry, not impressed. I am however impressed with the style and techniques in it.
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Bruce,Originally posted by TigerClaw View PostNothing I have said is dribble.
You've dribbled everywhere. Nobody wants to clean up your dribble. That fact that you are dribbling so much is just a reflection on the fact that dribble is the only thing coming out of your mouth along with conversational vomit.
Nobody is mocking you for your views on MMA or the Ultimate fighter idea on TV. Nobody would do that over such a small amount of dribble.Originally posted by TigerClaw View PostMy "antics", have been truth speaking, Kung Fu discussions, rebuke of mockers for their lies and false assumptions, and sharing of solid techniques. I began in these forums with a sincere intention and discussion. Yes I dared speak of my lack of interest in MMA and the Ultimate fighter idea on TV etc. But I have had other discussion with martial artist where we talk peacably about these things and there are many that agree.
I'll say it again: it must be so hard and such a burden to be right all the time. How do you do it?
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Guest repliedNot true. If you shift the back leg to the right and step around slightly his momentum does not force you back. Also even if you do go to the ground this will work. You can do this from the ground also.Originally posted by Uncle Skippy View PostYou would already be on the ground by the time you found his eyes or nose.
From there, you would eat punches and they would taste yummy.
BASIC physics and body mechanics for the win.
NEXT.
I have had people, do this shoot to me and they are not able to get me to the ground before I can claw their face and neck. I am sure there may be some out there that can counter this, as with all techniques. But generally it is very effective. It is also not that hard to lock the face or chin or bridge of the nose. And when you reach over with the other hand and twist , this pulls him even further. You can also attack the throat as well. Or strike hard to the back of the neck, and spine with different strikes as you torque him up and around.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by -FIGJAM- View Poststrange as it might be, i see that defence working.
That is not strange at all, it is a solid technique. I appreciate you sharing your view here. It is at least a more honest discussion.
Yes it will work, great, especially if the element of surprise is gained.Originally posted by -FIGJAM- View PostEspecially against some street thug who is just trying to tackle you. I assume that due to momentum and surprise, etc, etc, you would do it on the ground. But if one did do a eye gouge like this, would drill most people and break position.
It will also work against a BJJ fighter, along with other counters that follow it. But as with everything. How the person practices it and makes it work for them, depends on the person. There are also defenses against it as well.Originally posted by -FIGJAM- View PostAgainst a BJJ experienced fighter, i dont see how you could pull it off. They are generally to worried about neck cranks to leave their head to the side of the body as shown.
I dunno, just my thoughts.
There are always escapes for techniques. But it depends on the man who does the moves and how they do it etc.
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