How many of you carry weapons?

[Patrick G.]

hahahaa..i just realized something... i directed my posts to the wrong person!

darrianation was the one who i had orginally intended my posts to be directed to, not u konghan..he was the one who was giving the examples...sowwy... ::::goes to hide in the corner::::

buti do agree with alot of what both of u are saying..

[darrianation]

When discussing the "run away" option it is important to note that this can also put you at an even further disadvantage depending on the circumstances. So retreat is conditional on the environment and other circumstances and may not always be the best option.

With that said the first option that is most desirable (other than not being faced with a weapon in the first place) is to make distance between you and the weapon. However if things don't workout that way then you have to go down the list of available options that you still have.

And when I do scenarios with my students running away is always an acceptable option as long as it's safe to do so. So, running away, jumping fences, and obstacle courses are all an important part of my training program.

[crash501]

In the Marine Corps, even my senior instructor with Knife fighting tactics, would start every disarm technique with, You may take a serious wound, but...

[darrianation]

In the Marine Corps, even my senior instructor with Knife fighting tactics, would start every disarm technique with, You may take a serious wound, but...

The reality of disarms is: there is a very high risk of getting cut, but disarm techniques should be designed to limit those risks, as well as protecting vital areas.

[crash501]

Right, I was just saying, even in the most rock solid move, with a great practitioner, Things can go wrong. But a good disarming kick is my favorite, especially when wearing good boots. From my experience thats the "The most Safe" bet. But it all is what your style focus's on I guess.

[krys]

But a good disarming kick is my favorite, especially when wearing good boots. From my experience thats the "The most Safe" bet.

Kicking somebody who knows the knive basics isn't really a good idea... if you are cut in the femoral artery or in other delicate spots of the lower limbs you're in deep trouble.

[crash501]

The Bicipital artery is just as bad, its all on what you and your opponent know. I dont kick for the weapon, just break a knee or femur and they wont be thinking about cutting you

[osopardo]

In this particular case, any defense technique anyone of us would describe will have its valid detractors and the only thing we're left with is a big fat IF.

If you're lucky...
If he doesn't knows what he's doing...
If you can run faster...
If his reach is shorter than yours...

And the bottom line is that when you're attacked with a weapon you're pretty much screwed. The only defense is prevention. Diminish the odds of such a thing happening by modifying your lifestyle;
Don't go to places where such things are more likely to happen.
Don't associate with people who are more likely to behave that way.
Don't piss off anybody, ever, for whatever reason.
Be careful in your dealings with people.
Be polite.
Be slow to anger, quick to apologize.

And regarding using unreasonable force, the litany is; "I was afraid. I didn't know what he was capable or willing to do to me. I feared for my life."

[Tant01]

Right, I was just saying, even in the most rock solid move, with a great practitioner, Things can go wrong.

But a good disarming kick is my favorite, especially when wearing good boots. From my experience thats the "The most Safe" bet.

But it all is what your style focus's on I guess.

You know, I've kicked to defang and it worked, once. It also broke his watchband and sent the timex flying along with his bowie. However I strongly discourage attempting this for the reason that the hand is quicker that the foot and the eye. If you miss or he slips the strike you're in a world of hurt... Open to slaughter as it were. Kicking to disarm=BAD IDEA. (but you don't have to take my word for it).

[Tant01]

The Bicipital artery is just as bad, its all on what you and your opponent know. I dont kick for the weapon, just break a knee or femur and they wont be thinking about cutting you

go break a leg then...LOL The largest bone in the human body takes a bit more to break than you might think. And a knife is a fair weapon to defend against kicking attacks...But, you don't have to take my word for it...

[darrianation]

As a paramedic working in major metropolitan cities like Washington DC, Baltimore MD, Phoenix AZ, and Denver CO, I have probably been on seen somewhere in the neighborhood 200-350 stabbings (a conservative guess).

Out of all those stabbings very few victims actually died from a single knife wound. None died from wounds to the periphery (arms/legs). Most of the serious assaults that were either very critical or fatal were multiple wounds to the chest/abdomen area. I have seen only very few neck wounds and those were people who were either bound or held down and had there throat cut. I have also seen people with stab/slice wounds to the face but again none of those in and of themselves were fatal. I am not saying people don’t die from single stab wounds or being stabbed in the arm/leg or head, I am sure it happens and I have heard of it happening but they don’t happen all that often compared to the total number of stabbings.

So, in a last resort situation I wouldn’t hesitate to kick. I would go low like the knee/thigh, or if the situation permits the groin. I would not go for the knife arm. But if you do get a leg cut it would be far better than to have the knife buried deep in your chest. Statistics say you will most likely survive a cut to the leg.

[Tant01]

I have a friend that was stabbed once in the chest. As he was leaving a local market one evening a few guys passed him near the exit and drove a long knife into his heart as they walked by. He lived (for a year or so) but he suffered severe brain damage. Death is not the worse thing that can happen to a guy...

[Tom Yum]

That's another place that abductions and assaults tend to happen - corners and doors.

[konghan]

I have a friend that was stabbed once in the chest. As he was leaving a local market one evening a few guys passed him near the exit and drove a long knife into his heart as they walked by. He lived (for a year or so) but he suffered severe brain damage. Death is not the worse thing that can happen to a guy...

Tragic, I too had a freind, he was always a very rough person always get into street fights and all kinds of trouble then one day he decided to change & turn his life around, got marreid had a kid then when it was most unexpected he got stab right in the heart in a drinking brawl he died.

[krys]

That's another place that abductions and assaults tend to happen - corners and doors.

Doors and corners can be usefull to defend yourself...
Once in Payatas (Philippines) I saw two guys quarrel in the street, one draws a knives and rushes forward, the other guy runs staright away into a house, draws his own knive, hid behind the door, uses the door as a shield and slashed towards his opponent. The agressor gave up and left as he knew he would get hit if he tried to pass the door.