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Yes. You can get together and compliantly allow each other to punch each others hands.
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Then we can really train.Comment
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Yes yes yes!
So ge them black pyjamas outta the cupboard! get your silly slippers off the tea pot! Get hold of a black bag (preferably plastic - only joking) and make three eye holes in it (one at the back of course)
Theres gonna be some REAL Ninjitsu going on there! Oh YES!
Can we all come and watch? Or will you be invisible?Comment
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Get a high-speed camera. Perhaps 1 of 21323 frames will catch a glimpse.Originally posted by Thai Bri
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Good ol predictable Thai Bri. On second thought, maybe not good, but always predictable.Comment
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I prefer:Originally posted by jcmack
Tie Guy
Tie on Rye
Tie on Rye Guy
Thai Fry
Chai Bri
Chai Fry
Chai Tie
Thai thigh
My Sai
The ol' Muay Thai Try
Love the guy, name's too easy to pick on.
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Hikage,
Sorry man, I'm in Memphis, TN. Maybe I'll see you at a seminar or something. You never know. To bad Hatsumi sensei isn't having Tai Kai anymore.Comment
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Figures. If you ever find yourself over here let me know.Originally posted by jcmack
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PickAge
Sickage
Prickage
Dickage
Thickage
Hiksaggy
Hikfaggy
Etc etc etc.
I must be a Ninja name caller!Comment
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Okay, so at times we are talking about causing pain, at other times, deflecting, then at other times damaging/injuring the arm, or do we agree that gunting (or whatever you want to call it) isn't what we are talking about?Originally posted by jcmack
For deflecting a punch a parry is simple and gross motor skilled, for causing pain you can perform a hard uchi/soto uke, but these will not put the arm out of commission. Either can be used against head or body punches, jabs or crosses, but both are to slow to deal with barrages of punches.
The way you make things sound is like a game of patty cake, I say stop plying around and hit the guy.Comment
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Fair enough.Originally posted by Thai Bri
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:-) ..............Comment
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Dar,Originally posted by darrianation
It doesn't seem like you're getting the point of all the variations. They have been brought about in order to respond to the number of "what if's" that have arisen from Jcmack's origonal explanation of the basic form of the technique. We both know that techniques rarely work as scripted and need to be altered given the situation.
The base technique is actually not unlike the gunting that you would find in arnis, in theory. You are right in saying that the idea is to damage the arm, giving you anywhere from 1 - 10 seconds of time where the attacker's arm will be immobile. There is a nerve line that runs the length of the arm and, if practiced to perfection, it is possible that one could knock out an attacker by using this technique. When correct application of this technique occurs, chi is sent back up the nerve line, directly to the brain, which can shut down(although this is usually accomplished soley by the best masters and is not the central focus of the technique. I have never done this and don't expect to.) Other effects can be seeing the arm drop and pin to the attacker's body in a lifeless state. Some people who have a higher pain tolerance will require to be hit in several different places in order for the pain to register. This is how you would deal with your "Bubba."
The key to understand when pondering this technique is that ninjitsu stylists are not head hunters. So many people go for the face when fighting that it has become cliche' and most "Bubbas" are immune to shots to the face. The ninjitsu stylist practices how to effectively attack other areas around the body that can be exploited easily with minimal training. These locations are often left out of other arts and street fighters. Some of these include, but are not limited to: leg attacks, ankles, feet, back, and of course the arms.
The idea behind striking these areas is to be able to seperate a limb from his body so that it can be manipulated. If you can control any of the attacker's 5 points of balance (head, 2 arms, 2 legs) you can control his body. When attacking a limb, such as the arm, repeated strikes to appropriately planned locations will result in that limb becoming like puddy and inflicting pain on the attacker as if you were attacking his or her actual visage or trunk. Just as a martial artist learns how to use proper techniques against certain parts of the body, so the ninjitsu stylist learns the proper techniques to use against the limbs.
For example, kenpo stylists have something like 24 poison strikes. One of which is a knife hand to the temple. When you analyze the technique, you see that the side of the hand represents a relatively narrow striking surface area, enabling it to collapse the bones protecting the outside of the eye socket and would cause a break in that region. Furthermore, the pressure point beneath the surface of the temples leads directly to the brain and affects the functions of the nervous system. This point is labeled a "dummy point." If you strike an attacker in the temple, but not hard enough to break that area, you will cause him to stumble and probably fall to his knees, if not to the ground. Those who have been struck in this manner often will have a delayed reaction and don't realize the reaction they have until they can shake off the strike. I.e, they will keep fighting from their knees until they realize where they are.
These points of attack exist on the limbs and throughout the remainder of the body. The same chi lines that run through the temples and other points on the skull also exist all over the body and can be invoked to perform the same response. The point on the inside of the arm is a "pain point" and if struck would cause the person to recoil in pain as if they had burned their hand on an oven. On the face, other "pain points" would be the point beneath the piltrum of the nose and the upper corners of the forehead.
Study of these points throughout the body, such as dummy points and pain points will open a new range of targets that do not limit the martial artist to more traditional zones. Any dim mak book can confirm my information about the effect of striking the pressure points. Furthermore, exploitation of these locations often has a suprising effect on the attacker, furthering the offset of mindset and balance created by the application of the technique.
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This is so dire.Comment
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.........................Originally posted by Thai Bri
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